Swearing in films

[George]

Well, although the days of prophecy are behind us, philosophy is still very much alive.

Do you believe that Israel is a fulfillment of prophecy today?

Philosophy -- would you equate this to a humanistic understanding of life or do I have this conception of what you mean wrong?

Your brother in Christ with much agape love,

George

[ayin jade]

The Bible says to set no wicked thing before our eyes.

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Where in the Bible?

Philippians 4:8 Finally, my brothers, whatever things are true, whatever things are honest, whatever things are right, whatever things are pure, whatever things are lovely, whatever things are of good report; if there is any virtue and if there is any praise, think on these things.

There are other verses about not setting impure things before us too.

How can we think on the good things, honest things, pure and true things the Lord told us to think on if we habitually set all this worlds junk before us?

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Jesus set "all the world's junk" before himself. Really, how is anyone supposed to love their neighbour if they ignore them for an expletive?

Some of the best films out there contain swear words. By denying yourself so many films that do use them for things like atmosphere and emphasis, do you ever wonder if you're getting a well rounded world view? Maybe I'm missing the point, if I am please tell me.

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Jesus set the worlds junk before Him in order to witness to people. Who are you witnessing to in a film? You hear their words but they are inanimate and do not hear yours. You are not talking to those in the theater, so no witnessing there either. So what value would there be in His eyes to seeing a film like that?

[Guest Obtuse Monkey]

Well, although the days of prophecy are behind us, philosophy is still very much alive.

Do you believe that Israel is a fulfillment of prophecy today?

Philosophy -- would you equate this to a humanistic understanding of life or do I have this conception of what you mean wrong?

Your brother in Christ with much agape love,

George

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Fulfillment of prophecy I try to be wary of. Although I do believe in an all powerful God, I always know that people are around to misuse things to do with God. I do believe that Prophecies are fulfilled today, although I don't like to believe in there being new prophets. However, from Gerioke's comment, I have a new view of what the word prophecy actually means, so I'd like to get back to you on that one (I mean, thinking about it, how many musicians are prophets?).

Philosophy in humanistic? In the renaissance humanist sense, I suppose so. The idea that it is possible to continuously improve something, until it attains perfection (a great example is the Mona Lisa, which wasn't finished). If you mean humanism where they believe we just rot, I know very little about their life view or beliefs, so I don't know. If you can point me in the direction of anything useful, I'll be happy to look through, I'll probably look over google at some point.

 

 

The Bible says to set no wicked thing before our eyes.

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Where in the Bible?

Philippians 4:8 Finally, my brothers, whatever things are true, whatever things are honest, whatever things are right, whatever things are pure, whatever things are lovely, whatever things are of good report; if there is any virtue and if there is any praise, think on these things.

There are other verses about not setting impure things before us too.

 

How can we think on the good things, honest things, pure and true things the Lord told us to think on if we habitually set all this worlds junk before us? 

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Jesus set "all the world's junk" before himself. Really, how is anyone supposed to love their neighbour if they ignore them for an expletive?

Some of the best films out there contain swear words. By denying yourself so many films that do use them for things like atmosphere and emphasis, do you ever wonder if you're getting a well rounded world view? Maybe I'm missing the point, if I am please tell me.

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Jesus set the worlds junk before Him in order to witness to people. Who are you witnessing to in a film? You hear their words but they are inanimate and do not hear yours. You are not talking to those in the theater, so no witnessing there either. So what value would there be in His eyes to seeing a film like that?

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That's not what it says. That quote tells us to think about and consider good things. This is different to not looking at things which are bad. Please tell me of these other verses, I'd appreciate it.

Ok, I admit, that was a pretty messily written post. The main point I was fumbling to make is that Jesus didn't try to surround himself with the niceties of the world. Surrounding yourself with lovely, unprovoking things never challenges how you think, never shows more than a very narrow view of the world. I apologise to all concerned, as my post did read rather harshly.

[Gerioke]

Well, although the days of prophecy are behind us, philosophy is still very much alive. Through different artistic media, people express their views in different ways, and make different points. It can also bring certain issues to light; not only global, but also personal issues.

A "well rounded" world view is simply about having a deep understanding of things that occur within the world from many different perspectives, just as a "well rounded" musical view is someone who listens not just to one genre of music, but listens to all genres, or like a "well rounded" argument tries to look at the point of view of everybody involved.

The question of why God might test us when God is omniscient is an interesting one. One answer I heard that was particularly interesting is that God is not testing us for his benefit, but for ours; he tests us so that we know ourselves better. When I watch a movie, I want to learn something new, to see something from somebody elses viewpoint, to find something new out about myself. By doing this, I not only come to understand myself, I also can begin to understand things about different people.

[Guest Obtuse Monkey]

Well, although the days of prophecy are behind us, philosophy is still very much alive. Through different artistic media, people express their views in different ways, and make different points. It can also bring certain issues to light; not only global, but also personal issues.

A "well rounded" world view is simply about having a deep understanding of things that occur within the world from many different perspectives, just as a "well rounded" musical view is someone who listens not just to one genre of music, but listens to all genres, or like a "well rounded" argument tries to look at the point of view of everybody involved.

The question of why God might test us when God is omniscient is an interesting one. One answer I heard that was particularly interesting is that God is not testing us for his benefit, but for ours; he tests us so that we know ourselves better. When I watch a movie, I want to learn something new, to see something from somebody elses viewpoint, to find something new out about myself. By doing this, I not only come to understand myself, I also can begin to understand things about different people. 

That's really the essence of it I think. I mean, there are benefits as a result as well, for example I can watch a movie, identify with a character, and feel less alone. I hope you can appreciate that it's a difficult concept for me to write about.

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There are true, God called prophets today, not many, but a few.

From what I've seen of your posts, you are essentially a cultural melting pot, and appear to be receptive to most any teaching or idea. This is very dangerous.

James 1:8 - A double minded man is unstable in all his ways.

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At the end of it all, supposedly we're going to die, and supposedly our souls will leave our bodies behind. Then, in this spiritual form we will be judged.

So, I'm just trying to be true to myself. There's no point in being otherwise is there? God knows who we really are after all.

Also, if you think it's dangerous, try to convince me of "the truth". If something is true, then a strong argument can be made for it.

[Matthitjah]

Obtuse,

Ok, I admit, that was a pretty messily written post. The main point I was fumbling to make is that Jesus didn't try to surround himself with the niceties of the world. Surrounding yourself with lovely, unprovoking things never challenges how you think, never shows more than a very narrow view of the world. I apologise to all concerned, as my post did read rather harshly.

No apology neccesary.

Listen Jesus didn't surround Himself with niceties to expand His horizons. He did so to Save some with the Truth.

Also, if you think it's dangerous, try to convince me of "the truth". If something is true, then a strong argument can be made for it.

Have you examined the claims of Jesus Christ for the Truth?

He claimed to be God. He claimed to forgive men their sins. He claimed He was the fulfillment of Prophecy and the Word of God for starters. Not to mention that He was indeed the beginning and the end of all Truth.

Peace,

Dave

[Guest Obtuse Monkey]

Obtuse,

Ok, I admit, that was a pretty messily written post. The main point I was fumbling to make is that Jesus didn't try to surround himself with the niceties of the world. Surrounding yourself with lovely, unprovoking things never challenges how you think, never shows more than a very narrow view of the world. I apologise to all concerned, as my post did read rather harshly.

No apology necessary.

Listen Jesus didn't surround Himself with niceties to expand His horizons. He did so to Save some with the Truth.

Also, if you think it's dangerous, try to convince me of "the truth". If something is true, then a strong argument can be made for it.

Have you examined the claims of Jesus Christ for the Truth?

He claimed to be God. He claimed to forgive men their sins. He claimed He was the fulfillment of Prophecy and the Word of God for starters. Not to mention that He was indeed the beginning and the end of all Truth.

Peace,

Dave

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...It takes to time...thanks for using some of your time on me, it's appreciated. Same goes for anyone else who has too.