Marilyn C Posted May 5, 2019 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 30 Topic Count: 266 Topics Per Day: 0.07 Content Count: 13,200 Content Per Day: 3.49 Reputation: 8,497 Days Won: 12 Joined: 12/21/2013 Status: Offline Birthday: 10/06/1947 Share Posted May 5, 2019 On 4/16/2019 at 5:21 PM, R. Hartono said: Rev 18:12 The merchandise of gold, and silver, and precious stones, and of pearls, and fine linen, and purple, and silk, and scarlet, and all thyine wood, and all manner vessels of ivory, and all manner vessels of most precious wood, and of brass, and iron, and marble,...... Hi R. Hartono, God does not leave His word up for us to speculate, God tells us exactly what He means - `Babylon the Great...... and the woman whom you saw is that great city which reigns over the kings of the earth.` (Rev. 17: 5 & 18) The ancient and new city of Babylon is being rebuilt by the USA and the UN. It will be the capital of the world`s final Gentile Global Government, and will house the religious and economic centres of the world. Marilyn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamlamad Posted May 5, 2019 Group: Royal Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 23 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 8,272 Content Per Day: 2.08 Reputation: 689 Days Won: 4 Joined: 06/09/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted May 5, 2019 2 hours ago, R. Hartono said: John would not call Jerusalem great in term of deceiving. Would he? God caused John to call the city great. It was always God's plan that the world would know HIM by the blessings of the city. Instead, the world will be deceived. Sad, it is the city where the prophets were killed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamlamad Posted May 5, 2019 Group: Royal Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 23 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 8,272 Content Per Day: 2.08 Reputation: 689 Days Won: 4 Joined: 06/09/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted May 5, 2019 (edited) On 5/4/2019 at 8:28 PM, Marilyn C said: Hi R. Hartono, God does not leave His word up for us to speculate, God tells us exactly what He means - `Babylon the Great...... and the woman whom you saw is that great city which reigns over the kings of the earth.` (Rev. 17: 5 & 18) The ancient and new city of Babylon is being rebuilt by the USA and the UN. It will be the capital of the world`s final Gentile Global Government, and will house the religious and economic centres of the world. Marilyn. No, you missed it by a mile! It is MYSTERY Jerusalem that John is talking about. He TELLS us this is the "great city." The old city will amount to nothing. The Beast and False Prophet are going to JERUSALEM! Read 11:1-2: it is the man of sin entering Jerusalem with Muslim...I mean Gentile armies. Would the REAL Messiah set down in Babylon - the old City? Not on a bet! He is going to touch down in JERUSALEM! Why then would you imagine the one coming in His place would go somewhere else? Edited May 6, 2019 by iamlamad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamlamad Posted May 5, 2019 Group: Royal Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 23 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 8,272 Content Per Day: 2.08 Reputation: 689 Days Won: 4 Joined: 06/09/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted May 5, 2019 2 hours ago, R. Hartono said: Who calls Jerusalem as Sodom n Egypt now? Cud u give a reference ? I think the answer is, GOD. WHERE will the Beast and False Prophet be during most of the week? He will enter the temple in what city? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R. Hartono Posted May 5, 2019 Group: Royal Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 771 Topics Per Day: 0.34 Content Count: 6,936 Content Per Day: 3.07 Reputation: 1,979 Days Won: 1 Joined: 02/15/2018 Status: Offline Author Share Posted May 5, 2019 18 minutes ago, iamlamad said: I think the answer is, GOD. WHERE will the Beast and False Prophet be during most of the week? He will enter the temple in what city? Jerusalem is not prophesied to b destroyed by the Ten horns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marilyn C Posted May 5, 2019 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 30 Topic Count: 266 Topics Per Day: 0.07 Content Count: 13,200 Content Per Day: 3.49 Reputation: 8,497 Days Won: 12 Joined: 12/21/2013 Status: Offline Birthday: 10/06/1947 Share Posted May 5, 2019 3 hours ago, iamlamad said: No, you missed it by a mile! It is MYSTERY Jerusalem that John is talking about. He TELLS us this is the "great city." The old city will amount to nothing. The Beast and False Prophet are going to JERUSALEM! Read 11:1-2: it is the man of sin entering Jerusalem with Muslim...I mean Gentile armies. Would the REAL Messiah set down in Babylon - the old City? Not on a bed! He is going to touch down in JERUSALEM! Why then would you imagine the one coming in His place would go somewhere else? Hi imalamad, Yes the beastly leader and the Political machine will eventually go to the `glorious land,` however previous to that they will set up the Global Government in Babylon. When God deals with the city and its evil in one quick judgment, it is then that they go over to Jerusalem. (Dan. 11: 41 & Rev. 18: 10) `Alas, alas, that great city BABYLON, that mighty city! For in one hour your judgment has come.` (Rev. 18: 10) God is quite clear as to what city He is referring to. Marilyn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamlamad Posted May 6, 2019 Group: Royal Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 23 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 8,272 Content Per Day: 2.08 Reputation: 689 Days Won: 4 Joined: 06/09/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted May 6, 2019 On 5/5/2019 at 1:30 AM, Marilyn C said: Hi imalamad, Yes the beastly leader and the Political machine will eventually go to the `glorious land,` however previous to that they will set up the Global Government in Babylon. When God deals with the city and its evil in one quick judgment, it is then that they go over to Jerusalem. (Dan. 11: 41 & Rev. 18: 10) `Alas, alas, that great city BABYLON, that mighty city! For in one hour your judgment has come.` (Rev. 18: 10) God is quite clear as to what city He is referring to. Marilyn. Sorry, but that verse is speaking of Jerusalem. You have to look at the entire context. The "woman" in question, seen riding the Beast, full of blasphemies, is a CITY, but it is not that old physical city of Babylon! John called it that "great city." And IN THE SAME BOOK tells us that "great city" is Jerusalem. WHERE is the Beast going to be when He deceives the world? He will be in Jerusalem. That is why God calls that great city MYSTERY babylon." She is ACTING like the old city of Babylon, with false religion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
other one Posted May 6, 2019 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 29 Topic Count: 597 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 56,106 Content Per Day: 7.56 Reputation: 27,840 Days Won: 271 Joined: 12/29/2003 Status: Offline Share Posted May 6, 2019 53 minutes ago, iamlamad said: Sorry, but that verse is speaking of Jerusalem. You have to look at the entire context. The "woman" in question, seen riding the Beast, full of blasphemies, is a CITY, but it is not that old physical city of Babylon! John called it that "great city." And IN THE SAME BOOK tells us that "great city" is Jerusalem. WHERE is the Beast going to be when He deceives the world? He will be in Jerusalem. That is why God calls that great city MYSTERY babylon." She is ACTING like the old city of Babylon, with false religion. so Jerusalem will be utterly destroyed and the smoke of her destruction will rise forever? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Last Daze Posted May 6, 2019 Group: Royal Member Followers: 9 Topic Count: 84 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 4,011 Content Per Day: 1.12 Reputation: 2,519 Days Won: 4 Joined: 07/17/2014 Status: Offline Share Posted May 6, 2019 4 hours ago, other one said: so Jerusalem will be utterly destroyed and the smoke of her destruction will rise forever? Yeah, its ridiculous that people identify Jerusalem as Babylon. Does that mean that people have to go visit the smoking hole or no rain for them? More time thinking. Less time typing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamlamad Posted May 7, 2019 Group: Royal Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 23 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 8,272 Content Per Day: 2.08 Reputation: 689 Days Won: 4 Joined: 06/09/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted May 7, 2019 11 hours ago, other one said: so Jerusalem will be utterly destroyed and the smoke of her destruction will rise forever? Perhaps "forever" does not always mean what we think it means. How could smoke from ANY city rise up forever when the earth will be destroyed and we will get a NEW heaven and earth? It is a good question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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