The Great Falling Away

[Pekoudah]

9 hours ago, frienduff thaylorde said:

And the beauty of it is ,   ITS NOT TOO LATE TO START OVER RIGHT NOW TODAY .

Start fresh in that bible and start exhorting TODAY , while it is called today .     THAT IS the BEAUTY OF IT . 

So instead of folks attacking and striving ,   GO back to ONLY bible reading ,  and jus see what would happen .

Just that .   You would be amazed that many men over the ages have made very cloudy and confusing , A WALK that should have been clear and simple IN CHRIST .

The words in that bible are PURE  as a cold glass of water to a thirty soul ,  and they will refresh the mind that men have made cloudy .

ONLY let us read JUST the bible .    And pray seek and ask , AND GOD who desires NONE to perish , WILL HEAR .  FOR GOD desires us to walk holy

and IN CHRIST we have all we need to do so .    Thus start fresh today and dig in those bibles , like the the most covetous man would dig in a field for gold .

FOR the WORDS inspiried by GOD are far greater than any gold this world rushes for .    THAT GOLD wont perish , and it wont fade .

FOR the WORD of the LORD endures FOREVER .     Contenders for the true faith , MOUNT UP in the LORD and GET fully strapped with all the armour .

Cause our battle of the last hour is at the door , and let all go out faithful unto Christ ,  unto even death .     

Going in the name and power of the Lord by the Spirit.

[Pekoudah]

Gen. 1:16 And God made two great lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night: he made the stars also.
 

I think this relates to the 2 great commandments. The greatest is to love God...and the lesser of these great commandments is to love others as ourselves. It is holiness..in the light: Righteousness in the darkness. 

See the contrast here...we are to do our works so as to be seen of men (a light on a hill)...this regards holiness. But we are also to do our works in secret...this regards righteousness. So spiritually the first is in the day...in the light...and the other at night, where the left hand can't see what the right hand is doing...

John 9:4 I must work the works of him that sent me, while it is day: the night cometh, when no man can work.

Where no man can work the holiness of God in the world. The world is straying farther and farther from the truth. But the church need not follow the world. We are spiritually in the night where the church is sleeping. We can yet hold fast what we have been given...and learn to love in a more and more sacrificial way.  If we are truly in the time of night...before the break of a new day....then we can still work righteousness through loving our brothers and sisters in the Lord.

After all...Jesus said that we would be known for our love....miraculous power notwithstanding. The late Jean Vanier was not a man of miraculous faith yet the world saw him as a man of God nonetheless.

 

And we can seek the Lord for His power to restore the church to it's rightful place of revival and ambassadorship to the coming kingdom of God.

Maybe God is waiting until we learn the lesser of the 2 great commandments of love before giving us the power to fulfill being the light of the world. See how divided we are. The day is fast approaching. Soon, I believe we will be able to work again in the miraculous power of God as a witness to the world that Jesus Christ is risen and alive...and sovereign. Until then we can watch and pray and be obedient with the measure of faith we have been given.
 

[frienduff thaylorde]

6 hours ago, Pekoudah said:

Going in the name and power of the Lord by the Spirit.

And THAT IS the beauty of it . 

[frienduff thaylorde]

For without ME ye can do nothing .

[JohnD]

On 5/7/2019 at 8:16 AM, Pekoudah said:

^{2 Thess. 2:3} Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;

 

I see that the churches have opted for numbers rather than content...for quantity rather than quality. Success is being measured by worldly standards...more followers, more money.

So from a worldly standpoint, there seems to be no problem.

But with the natural build-up of religious adherents there is a converse spiritual falling away. A spiritual diluting of the truth.

When there were few bibles, there was revival...at the early church stage. But with the multiplication of bibles and bible ownership did not come an explosion of spiritual life.

The narrow road just got wider and wider to accommodate fewer and fewer real conversions. But there is a savvy among men. We know how to make things appear to be working. We are experts at that.

So then either God didn't get the memo about how good we are doing...or maybe we aren't getting the serious nature of tampering with the truth.

People learning what the Word of God actually says whacks up the tradition of organizations like the Church Establishment.

Go figure. 

[warrior12]

The church has to meet the public and interact with the people on the streets.  Lots of people has misinformation on scripture and other beliefs  and shone the church buildings. They would not enter the doors of the church and if the pastors and other leaders do not preach the word out  on the street, then the word stays within the four walls .  

I have listened to some street preaching from a particular pastor who preaches on the streets of Toronto and covers about every subject.  There are lot of interaction with the public and I have learned a lot of what others think about life issues and their views of the bible.  This pastor has travelled to much of the world and engaged the public in those lands also about their traditions in comparison to what the bible teaches and the misconceptions and lies the  teaches of their books told them.   

I will mention his name an ministry and you can check out his numerous youtube videos and see for yourself.  Many pastors are not willing to get out from their comfort zone and preach to the wider audience, which desperately needs to hear the word and have the necessary dialogue.  People has questions and do not want to go sit in  the pews and hear sermons.  Times have changed and so the church has to adapt and go to the people too.  

The pastor name is David Lynn and his ministry is "CHRIST FORGIVENESS MINISTRIES".   In my opinion, this is what church leaders need to do as the  oneness culture is eating away at the youths and the next generation. 

[warrior12]

3 hours ago, warrior12 said:

The church has to meet the public and interact with the people on the streets.  Lots of people has misinformation on scripture and other beliefs  and shone the church buildings. They would not enter the doors of the church and if the pastors and other leaders do not preach the word out  on the street, then the word stays within the four walls .  

I have listened to some street preaching from a particular pastor who preaches on the streets of Toronto and covers about every subject.  There are lot of interaction with the public and I have learned a lot of what others think about life issues and their views of the bible.  This pastor has travelled to much of the world and engaged the public in those lands also about their traditions in comparison to what the bible teaches and the misconceptions and lies the  teaches of their books told them.   

I will mention his name an ministry and you can check out his numerous youtube videos and see for yourself.  Many pastors are not willing to get out from their comfort zone and preach to the wider audience, which desperately needs to hear the word and have the necessary dialogue.  People has questions and do not want to go sit in  the pews and hear sermons.  Times have changed and so the church has to adapt and go to the people too.  

The pastor name is David Lynn and his ministry is "CHRIST FORGIVENESS MINISTRIES".   In my opinion, this is what church leaders need to do as the  oneness culture is eating away at the youths and the next generation. 

This street preacher pastor is live online on youtube right now.  

Just type "christsforgiveness" on the youtube search box and find the link

live feed has ended for today.

Edited May 8, 2019 by warrior12

[warrior12]

On 5/8/2019 at 6:19 PM, warrior12 said:

This street preacher pastor is live online on youtube right now.  

Just type "christsforgiveness" on the youtube search box and find the link

live feed has ended for today.

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Edited May 10, 2019 by warrior12

[frienduff thaylorde]

On ‎5‎/‎8‎/‎2019 at 4:25 PM, Cletus said:

and fall away they will.  when i have discussed this very verse with others I have encountered them saying the falling away part was actually the church being raptured.  and even when you explain to them the day cant happen until the day happens makes zero sense... its just sad. 

we must not compromise our walk, but remain steadfast unto The LORD.  God does not compromise. 

the truth is, many are already prepared in their mind and heart to take the mark.  They will eat it up just like adam and eve ate the forbidden fruit in the garden. 

I try to remain hopeful, that some will repent, and also that when i see this I know   ....    soon.

no matter what comes we must press forward to the finish line.  He said He would never leave nor forsake us, and even that He is alway with us, lo, even to the end of the age. 

Got tears in my eyes as I read this , YOU RIGHT CLETUS many gonna take it .   ALL we can do is continue to exhort and pray .  exhort and pray .   

I don't give one ounce of a care if I die exposing Rome and all inclusive ,   at least BY GRACE my end is good and maybe some heard .     This life is but a vapor anyway .

WE may as well spend what time we have , POINTING ONLY TO CHRIST and pure sound bible doctrine which THE SPIRIT INSPIRED .    

Better to die in a prison in chains and nothing but harsh language and beatings ,  HAVING CHRIST , than to live the greatest king in this ALL inclusive dung hole delusion many live in .   . 

 

Edited May 11, 2019 by frienduff thaylorde

[frienduff thaylorde]

I stand in the way of many peoples VISION .     OH WELL .       I GOT CHRIST .      What do they have .  the world and its false hopes of unity and fake peace .