Looking For Input Concerning False Doctrine in the Churches

[JLB]

12 hours ago, Willa said:

Here you are talking about the church.   Paul would speak in the Hebrew Synagog before speaking to the church.  Jesus was sent to the people of Israel.  Paul alway honored that and spoke first to the Jews.   

In the church Jews and Gentiles are one, male and female are one, free and slave are one.  That did not happen in the synagogs of the Hebrew people.

 

Because they were unbelievers. 

 

 

 

JLB 

[JLB]

12 hours ago, pinacled said:

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Ephesians+5&version=ESV

 

The law of Moses has been abolished in His flesh, having been fulfilled. 

 

For He Himself is our peace, who has made both one, and has broken down the middle wall of separation, having abolished in His flesh the enmity, that is, the law of commandments contained in ordinances, so as to create in Himself one new man from the two, thus making peace,    Ephesians 2:14-15

 

 

 

 

JLB

[JLB]

6 hours ago, Betha said:

We are going round in circles....The NT is NOT strict Rules and Commandments where we are TOLD what to do and stoned if we don't....that was OT !!! Though the 10 Basic Principles (Commands) of how to love God and man STILL apply today they are NOW kept and observed with Love, Mercy, the Holy Spirit, Compassion and better Understanding by Yashua's OWN example.....we do not need to be STRICTLY INSTRUCTED NOW WHEN WE HAVE GOD'S LOVE AND SPIRIT  IN US !!!  By it we KNOW HIS Will and HIS Righteousness !!!

 

I take it, by this post you don’t believe we as the Church are required to observe the Sabbath?

 

 

 JLB 

[JLB]

5 hours ago, Betha said:

As you correctly quote Eph 2v15 and also Col 2v14 this refers to 'Commandments contained in ORDINANCES/ Physical carnal Rituals, meat/drink Offerings or the blood of Bulls and Goats, animal sacrifices ....all such were the ORDINANCES  !  NOT the Sabbath

 

And you, being dead in your trespasses and the uncircumcision of your flesh, He has made alive together with Him, having forgiven you all trespasses, having wiped out the handwriting of requirements that was against us, which was contrary to us. And He has taken it out of the way, having nailed it to the cross. Having disarmed principalities and powers, He made a public spectacle of them, triumphing over them in it.
So let no one judge you in food or in drink, or regarding a festival or a new moon or sabbaths, which are a shadow of things to come, but the substance is of Christ.               Colossians 2:13-17

 

• So let no one judge you in food or in drink, or regarding a festival or a new moon or sabbaths, which are a shadow of things to come, but the substance is of Christ. 

 

 

JLB

Edited July 16, 2019 by JLB

[Last Daze]

48 minutes ago, JLB said:

 

And you, being dead in your trespasses and the uncircumcision of your flesh, He has made alive together with Him, having forgiven you all trespasses, having wiped out the handwriting of requirements that was against us, which was contrary to us. And He has taken it out of the way, having nailed it to the cross. Having disarmed principalities and powers, He made a public spectacle of them, triumphing over them in it.
So let no one judge you in food or in drink, or regarding a festival or a new moon or sabbaths, which are a shadow of things to come, but the substance is of Christ.               Colossians 2:13-17

 

• So let no one judge you in food or in drink, or regarding a festival or a new moon or sabbaths, which are a shadow of things to come, but the substance is of Christ. 

 

 

JLB

Not sure why that's so difficult for some.  If they want to observe a specific day, fine.  If they consider all days alike, fine.

• Who are you to judge the servant of another? To his own master he stands or falls; and he will stand, for the Lord is able to make him stand.  One person regards one day above another, another regards every day alike. Each person must be fully convinced in his own mind.  He who observes the day, observes it for the Lord, and he who eats, does so for the Lord, for he gives thanks to God; and he who eats not, for the Lord he does not eat, and gives thanks to God.  Romans 14:4-6

[Still Alive]

On 6/20/2019 at 9:26 PM, other one said:

keep in mind that it also says we should kill them...    do you promote that?

And then there is that pesky Sabbath thing.

I think homosexual ACTS are a sin, just as I think adultery is a sin. Beyond that, they are both temptations, depending on who you are. 

 

i.e. I think we agree.

[Still Alive]

For me the biggest and most damaging false doctrine in the church is the "turn or burn" message. 

This clarifies: http://www.jewishnotgreek.com/

[pg4Him]

1 minute ago, Betha said:

Jesus/Yashua was sent to the 'lost sheep of Israel....the Jews were/are not lost, they are well-known...Jesus' own people but they received Him not. Did Yashua find any of the lost sheep // We shall know when the time comes.

The reason gentiles were not well received in the synagogue was that they wanted to uphold their own PAGAN beliefs, they had no intention 'to TURN TO THE LORD.....even as they don't today. They have shown their disdain for 2000 years.

Cornelius had no intention to turn to the Lord? Lydia had no intention? Timothy? The Ethiopian eunuch? None of those Greeks at Corinth or Thessalonica were really born again?

This is outright slander against the New Testament churches.

[pg4Him]

Just now, Betha said:

Yes, ANYTHING is fine if you want to do your OWN thing  I prefer to do what God says ! Everyone has a choice ! (just don't forget the consequences.)

So you’re calling Paul a liar?

[pg4Him]

5 minutes ago, Betha said:

Please read scriptures with discernment. Paul never said that WE (true  followers) can pick and choose what to do...he said that SOMEpeople were...but WE should follow HIM as he followed Christ 1 Cor 11. Did JESUS keep the Sabbath ? did Paul ? should WE ? your choice ! 

Paul forbad us to judge each other over Sabbaths because they are, quite plainly, a shadow. Paul told you clearly that you are not allowed to sit on your high horse and make snarky judgmental comments toward those who have a different view of Sabbath.

So I ask you again, are you calling Paul a liar?