Alternative Timeline? Comparing the Trumpet and Bowl Judgments

[dhchristian]

6 hours ago, iamlamad said:

This is just not quite on point here. You say you do not deny tongues, but the truth is, you deny tongues for YOU! (Tongues are OK for those that speak in tongues, but I don't need tongues - something like this) Note very carefully this is NOT a "denominational issue." It is a BIBLE issue! I am contending for the correct understanding of Acts 1, Acts 2, Acts 8, Acts 10, Acts 19, and 1 Cor. 14 - but mostly Paul's chapter on Tongues. I could care less what denomination one grew up in. I grew up in a church that declared that tongues (today) are of the devil. How silly could any denomination be?

What you are missing: Christ is the head of the church, and it was HIS PLAN that all receive the mighty baptism in the Spirit with the evidence of praying in tongues.  You may not believe this statement now, but when you meet Him, you will.

I wonder - since you have never denied or confirmed: do you now believe that when someone prays in tongues they are talking to God, and not to man, because "no man understands?"  Please, read that verse in every translation you can find. It is TRUTH.

You are obviously not ready to receive what he has shown me, So with this, this conversation is complete. You are still lost in denominationalism, and the teachings of men. When you are done contending is when you will be ready.

Edited August 30, 2019 by dhchristian

[iamlamad]

22 minutes ago, dhchristian said:

You are obviously not ready to receive what he has shown me, So with this, this conversation is complete. You are still lost in denominationalism, and the teachings of men. When you are done contending is when you will be ready.

Let's compare notes when we arrive in heaven, shall we?

[dhchristian]

For ye are yet carnal: for whereas there is among you envying, and strife, and divisions, are ye not carnal, and walk as men? (1 Cor 3;3)

[Montana Marv]

How many languages and dialects were present at Pentecost. They heard the Gospel in their own languages. Supernatural speaking in another language. How much of this goes on today, very little. The written Word is now in all languages.

In Christ

Montana Marv

[iamlamad]

1 hour ago, Montana Marv said:

How many languages and dialects were present at Pentecost. They heard the Gospel in their own languages. Supernatural speaking in another language. How much of this goes on today, very little. The written Word is now in all languages.

In Christ

Montana Marv

What does the written word have to do with what Paul was talking about in 1 Cor. 14? Answer, very little. 

[Montana Marv]

10 hours ago, iamlamad said:

What does the written word have to do with what Paul was talking about in 1 Cor. 14? Answer, very little. 

Written Word only locally then. Tongues still applicable then. Prophecy is superior to tongues.

In Christ

Montana Marv

[iamlamad]

7 hours ago, Montana Marv said:

Written Word only locally then. Tongues still applicable then. Prophecy is superior to tongues.

In Christ

Montana Marv

Are you saying they had nothing written about tongues until Paul wrote? Agreed.

Prophecy is equal to tongues with interpretation.

However, trying to compare tongues as a prayer language with tongues to be interpreted is like comparing apples to oranges.

[Montana Marv]

27 minutes ago, iamlamad said:

Are you saying they had nothing written about tongues until Paul wrote? Agreed.

Prophecy is equal to tongues with interpretation.

However, trying to compare tongues as a prayer language with tongues to be interpreted is like comparing apples to oranges.

Tongues as a prayer language still needs to go through the Holy Spirit for interpretation with groans.... The same as any other prayers. No bypassing the Holy Spirit. No special given gift.

In Christ

Montana Marv

[iamlamad]

34 minutes ago, Montana Marv said:

Tongues as a prayer language still needs to go through the Holy Spirit for interpretation with groans.... The same as any other prayers. No bypassing the Holy Spirit. No special given gift.

In Christ

Montana Marv

No, it is the Holy Spirit CREATING the prayer, passing that prayer through the human spirit to the mouth to be spoken (talking to God, not to man - for no man understands) and then God the Father hearing and answering. The speaker in tongues has no idea what the Holy Spirit prayed. He or she may have thought they were praying for their new Cadillac, but in reality was probably praying about sin in their life!

On the other hand, prayers in our own learned language goes through our MIND and understanding: we know what we are praying when we use our learned language. A prayer in tongues is not understood. See 1 Cor. 14:2. It is supernatural speaking.