Repose Posted September 5, 2019 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 9 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 205 Content Per Day: 0.12 Reputation: 231 Days Won: 0 Joined: 08/06/2019 Status: Offline Share Posted September 5, 2019 I'm curious to see how people might respond to this question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayne Posted September 5, 2019 Group: Royal Member Followers: 16 Topic Count: 107 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 3,823 Content Per Day: 1.29 Reputation: 4,812 Days Won: 2 Joined: 03/31/2016 Status: Offline Share Posted September 5, 2019 "There is none good, no not one." I do some good things. I am saved. For the most part, I obey the Word. As a whole person - flesh, soul, and spirit, I am not "good". Why? My saved soul is confined in a body of flesh that sometimes fails. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saved34 Posted September 5, 2019 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 5 Topic Count: 1 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 1,185 Content Per Day: 0.27 Reputation: 667 Days Won: 3 Joined: 03/28/2012 Status: Offline Birthday: 02/19/1971 Share Posted September 5, 2019 No. I don’t think I have any real goodness in and of myself. In Christ and by his grace and power I am privileged to do good and be good. Gal 2:20 I have been crucified with Christ and I no longer live, but Christ lives in me. The life I now live in the body, I live by faith in the Son of God, who loved me and gave himself for me. Eph 2:10 For we are God's handiwork, created in Christ Jesus to do good works, which God prepared in advance for us to do. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
missmuffet Posted September 5, 2019 Group: Royal Member Followers: 34 Topic Count: 1,992 Topics Per Day: 0.48 Content Count: 48,690 Content Per Day: 11.78 Reputation: 30,343 Days Won: 226 Joined: 01/11/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted September 5, 2019 59 minutes ago, Repose said: I'm curious to see how people might respond to this question. I do my best to be a good person but I am human and a sinner and being a good person is not going to get you to heaven. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blood Bought 1953 Posted September 5, 2019 Group: Royal Member Followers: 13 Topic Count: 48 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 6,726 Content Per Day: 2.87 Reputation: 6,258 Days Won: 5 Joined: 12/03/2017 Status: Offline Share Posted September 5, 2019 (edited) Paul had a good run at , but in the end Paul was wrong.... “I”, BB am “ chief of sinners,” so please step aside, Paul......Paul was a murderer, but at least he “ thought” he was doing right.I did wrong , knew it was wrong , and did not care.I am not that person anymore.I am still a rotten sinner, but I have to wonder how much more of a rotten sinner I would be without the Holy Spirit in me.Thank God, He is never looking for “ good people” to make better- He is looking for “ dead” people, to make them “alive”. That is what He did for me. I am a sinful man, but every now and then , God does “His” good through me.I can thank Him for that much..... Edited September 5, 2019 by Blood Bought 1953 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Who me Posted September 5, 2019 Group: Royal Member Followers: 5 Topic Count: 17 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 3,300 Content Per Day: 1.71 Reputation: 1,686 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/27/2019 Status: Offline Share Posted September 5, 2019 1 hour ago, Repose said: I'm curious to see how people might respond to this question. As you have supplied no standard by which to measure our 'goodness' you have no way of evaluating our replies. So yes I am a 'good' person. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blood Bought 1953 Posted September 5, 2019 Group: Royal Member Followers: 13 Topic Count: 48 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 6,726 Content Per Day: 2.87 Reputation: 6,258 Days Won: 5 Joined: 12/03/2017 Status: Offline Share Posted September 5, 2019 28 minutes ago, Who me said: As you have supplied no standard by which to measure our 'goodness' you have no way of evaluating our replies. So yes I am a 'good' person. “ There are NONE that are GOOd......no,not One...”........ not trying to pick on you - it just sprung into my mind and I though perhaps somebody out there might need to hear it.... Something else some need to understand is what a Jewish English teacher taught my College English Class to the shock and dismay of 99% of the class .He wrote on the blackboard.... “ Anybody who thinks they are GOOD Enough for Heaven are damned” This from a man who was not even close to being a Christian. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aimes Posted September 5, 2019 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 26 Topic Count: 35 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 6,734 Content Per Day: 2.76 Reputation: 8,345 Days Won: 21 Joined: 08/29/2017 Status: Offline Share Posted September 5, 2019 “None is righteous, no, not one; 11 no one understands; no one seeks for God. 12 All have turned aside; together they have become worthless; no one does good, not even one.” Romans 3:10b-12 Amy without Jesus is a wretched, vile, hateful, hurtful person. Within myself dwells nothing good. I'm thankful for Jesus and His goodness which has changed my heart. Any good I do, is truly through Him and definitely because of Him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1to3 Posted September 5, 2019 Group: Royal Member Followers: 22 Topic Count: 141 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 4,247 Content Per Day: 1.23 Reputation: 3,086 Days Won: 0 Joined: 11/28/2014 Status: Offline Share Posted September 5, 2019 (edited) Christ Himself said that no one is good but God, we all fall short of His Glory. The reason Christ came was to break the power and hold that sin has on people and to set them FREE , free to be able to become new creations in Him and be set free from the power of sin. Christ came to free us from the bondage of sin and to also overcome sin in our life. For sure its a process and continues until we return to Him. The process begins once we turn to God by faith and be faith continue growing in and through Him and faith in His Word so to become more and more Christ -like. We will be confronted with tests of faith everyday till we return to God. How we handle each test of faith that comes our way, is a teaching tool to see where we have progressed, gained virtue from Him or were we still need to seek Him and His word, repent from a particular sin and ask him to overcome, to overcome a particular sin. ( virtue that is not tested is not virtue) God promises is that by seeking Him daily, acknowledging our sins and need of help for a particular sin from Him, that He will help us overcome, if only we seek Him, ask and believe that we can be set free of our sin. So far in my daily walk with Christ Jesus, God has healed me and changed me of so much. The change is that the lifestyle I used to live in the world is no more, my reactions to this world has change, and those have become very foreign to me, something that I have no desire to return to or engage in anymore. For sure everyday continues with other test of faith that need to get resolved, but i can rest assured that He can also deliver me of those like He did with the others that I have already overcome through Him. Its a lifetime process of being refined, molded through Him and His Word working in us, through our ongoing daily relationship with Him. ------- Question: "How can I become more like Christ?" Answer: God's desire for all who know Him is for us to become more like Christ. We do this by first growing in our knowledge of Christ. It stands to reason that we cannot grow to be like someone we don’t know. The deeper our knowledge of Christ, the deeper our understanding of Him, and the more like Him we become. Among other reasons, we are to know and understand Christ so that we will be secure in the faith. The Apostle Paul reiterates this truth in Ephesians 4:14-16: "Then we will no longer be infants, tossed back and forth by the waves, and blown here and there by every wind of teaching and by the cunning and craftiness of men in their deceitful scheming. Instead, speaking the truth in love, we will in all things grow up into him who is the Head, that is, Christ. From him the whole body, joined and held together by every supporting ligament, grows and builds itself up in love, as each part does its work." This fact is repeated once more in 2 Peter 3:17-18: "Therefore, dear friends, since you already know this, be on your guard so that you may not be carried away by the error of lawless men and fall from your secure position. But grow in the grace and knowledge of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. To him be glory both now and forever! Amen." These passages show us that growing in the knowledge of Christ will preserve us from faith-destroying error. Of course, knowledge alone will not produce a Christlike character. The knowledge we gain from God’s Word must impact our hearts and convict us of the need to obey what we have learned. Romans 12:1-2 tells us emphatically that the process of filling our minds with the knowledge of God not only brings us closer to Christlikeness, but obedience to that knowledge aligns us with the perfect will of God: "Therefore, I urge you, brothers, in view of God's mercy, to offer your bodies as living sacrifices, holy and pleasing to God—this is your spiritual act of worship. Do not conform any longer to the pattern of this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind. Then you will be able to test and approve what God's will is—his good, pleasing and perfect will." The natural consequence of knowing and obeying God is that He becomes greater and greater, while we become less and less as we yield control of our lives to Him. Just as John the Baptist knew that “[Jesus] must increase, but I must decrease” (John 3:30), so the Christian grows to reflect more of Christ and less of his own nature. Luke sums it up best when he describes what Jesus told His disciples: "If anyone would come after me, he must deny himself and take up his cross daily and follow me. For whoever wants to save his life will lose it, but whoever loses his life for me will save it" (Luke 9:23-24). The cross was an instrument of death, and Jesus encourages us to take up our cross in order to put to death our old sin nature upon it. God wants us to forget about this world and all its temporary pleasures and be obedient to His Word. Jesus is the living Word (John 1:1), and the Bible is God's written Word. Therefore, conforming to the Word of God is conforming to Christ. It is important to realize that becoming more like Christ starts by receiving Him as Savior from our sins. Then we grow in our knowledge of God by reading the Bible daily, studying it, and being obedient to what it says. This process causes us to grow and occurs over an entire lifetime in Christ. Only when we have entered Heaven for eternity with God does this process reach its culmination. https://www.gotquestions.org/more-like-Christ.html Edited September 5, 2019 by 1to3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Repose Posted September 5, 2019 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 9 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 205 Content Per Day: 0.12 Reputation: 231 Days Won: 0 Joined: 08/06/2019 Status: Offline Author Share Posted September 5, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, Who me said: As you have supplied no standard by which to measure our 'goodness' you have no way of evaluating our replies. So yes I am a 'good' person. The vagueness of the question is intentional, as the standard varies from one to another. I asked this question here because I've often noticed, if you ask it to an unbeliever, they will often answer that they do believe themselves to be good. Not always, of course, but the difference in asking it here is drastic To many of you, well said. Edited September 5, 2019 by Repose 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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