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11 hours ago, Diaste said:

How interesting!

 

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This Roman Empire map above shows Rome did not go further east than the Levant. 

 

I find it interesting that all the maps Alive posted showed the empires stretching to the Indus valley. The Islamic map I posted shows the same.

Which is why the Fourth Beast MATCHES the European Union and the "MANY" they have Agreements with, in modern times called the European Neighborhood Policy. We can look at the ENP Map and see if the Anti-Christ {E.U. President} Conquers all of the Nations {MANY} they have current 7 Year Agreements {Covenant in Hebrew means Agreement} with, then the new E.U. Map would look IDENTICAL to the Old Roman Empire map !! 

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European Neighbourhood Policy (ENP)     EU member states     EU enlargement agenda     Eastern Partnership ENP countries     Other ENP countries (all but Libya are UfM members)     UfM members, which are not an ENP country, part of the EU or its enlargement agenda)

The European Neighbourhood Policy (ENP) is a foreign relations instrument of the European Union (EU) which seeks to tie those countries to the east and south of the European territory of the EU to the Union. These countries, primarily developing countries, include some who seek to one day become either a member state of the European Union, or more closely integrated with the European Union. The ENP does not apply to neighbours of the EU's outermost regions, specifically France's territories in South America, but only to those countries close to EU member states' territories in mainland Europe.

The countries covered include Algeria, Morocco, Egypt, Israel, Jordan, Lebanon, Libya, Palestine, Syria, Tunisia in the South and Armenia, Azerbaijan, Belarus, Georgia, Moldova, Ukraine in the East. 

The EU offers financial assistance to countries within the European Neighbourhood, so long as they meet the strict conditions of government reform, economic reform and other issues surrounding positive transformation. {Carrot and the Stick process} This process is normally underpinned by an Action Plan, as agreed by both Brussels and the target country.

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These deals are already in place and are 7 Year Agreements. 

Notice how the Old Fourth Beast looks exactly like the E.U. would look under the coming Anti-Christ if they just Conquered THE MANY as they are Described in Dan. 8:25, Dan. 9:27 and Dan. 11:40-43. Thus the Little Horn is said to ARISE out of the Fourth Beasts Head OR............It looks exactly the same as the old Fourth Beast/Roman Empire {Its a chip off the ole block so to speak}. Notice how even Greece did not encompass the whole Mediterranean Sea Coast ? But Rome did, and so will the Beasts Territory. 

NOTICE THE "MANY".

Dan. 8:25 And through his policy also he shall cause craft to prosper in his hand; and he shall magnify himself in his heart, and by peace shall destroy many: he shall also stand up against the Prince of princes{Jesus}; but he shall be broken without hand.

Dan. 9:27 And he shall confirm the covenant with many {Nations not just Israel} for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.

Dan. 11:40 And at the time of the end shall the king of the south push at him: and the king of the north {Beast/A.C.} shall come against him like a whirlwind, with chariots, and with horsemen, and with many ships; and he shall enter into the countries, and shall overflow and pass over.

41 He shall enter also into the glorious land, AND MANY countries shall be overthrown: but these shall escape out of his hand, even Edom, and Moab, and the chief of the children of Ammon {Central & Southern Jordan, where Israel {Woman} Flees for 1260 days}.

42 He shall stretch forth his hand also upon the countries: and the land of Egypt shall not escape. 43 But he shall have power over the treasures of gold and of silver, and over all the precious things of Egypt: and the Libyans and the Ethiopians shall be at his steps.

So THE MANY, are many Nations the A.C. has Agreements with, he tricks/defeats them via PEACE, then once he gets their guard down he pulls a Hitler and Blitzes them with War Forces. He Conquers not just Israel, but the whole Mediterranean Sea Coast of Africa and the Middle East via Israel, Lebanon and Syria. The Fourth Beast will be pretty much identical to this A.C. Beast. Thus he is said to have arisen out of his head. If a son is born unto us and looks just like us, its deemed to be a chip off the ole block so to speak. This AC Beast will look just like the Fourth Beast, but its of course not the same Beast. 

Edited by Revelation Man

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10 hours ago, Revelation Man said:

Which is why the Fourth Beast MATCHES the European Union and the "MANY" they have Agreements with, in modern times called the European Neighborhood Policy. We can look at the ENP Map and see if the Anti-Christ {E.U. President} Conquers all of the Nations {MANY} they have current 7 Year Agreements {Covenant in Hebrew means Agreement} with, then the new E.U. Map would look IDENTICAL to the Old Roman Empire map !! 

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European Neighbourhood Policy (ENP)     EU member states     EU enlargement agenda     Eastern Partnership ENP countries     Other ENP countries (all but Libya are UfM members)     UfM members, which are not an ENP country, part of the EU or its enlargement agenda)

The European Neighbourhood Policy (ENP) is a foreign relations instrument of the European Union (EU) which seeks to tie those countries to the east and south of the European territory of the EU to the Union. These countries, primarily developing countries, include some who seek to one day become either a member state of the European Union, or more closely integrated with the European Union. The ENP does not apply to neighbours of the EU's outermost regions, specifically France's territories in South America, but only to those countries close to EU member states' territories in mainland Europe.

The countries covered include Algeria, Morocco, Egypt, Israel, Jordan, Lebanon, Libya, Palestine, Syria, Tunisia in the South and Armenia, Azerbaijan, Belarus, Georgia, Moldova, Ukraine in the East. 

The EU offers financial assistance to countries within the European Neighbourhood, so long as they meet the strict conditions of government reform, economic reform and other issues surrounding positive transformation. {Carrot and the Stick process} This process is normally underpinned by an Action Plan, as agreed by both Brussels and the target country.

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These deals are already in place and are 7 Year Agreements. 

Notice how the Old Fourth Beast looks exactly like the E.U. would look under the coming Anti-Christ if they just Conquered THE MANY as they are Described in Dan. 8:25, Dan. 9:27 and Dan. 11:40-43. Thus the Little Horn is said to ARISE out of the Fourth Beasts Head OR............It looks exactly the same as the old Fourth Beast/Roman Empire {Its a chip off the ole block so to speak}. Notice how even Greece did not encompass the whole Mediterranean Sea Coast ? But Rome did, and so will the Beasts Territory. 

NOTICE THE "MANY".

Dan. 8:25 And through his policy also he shall cause craft to prosper in his hand; and he shall magnify himself in his heart, and by peace shall destroy many: he shall also stand up against the Prince of princes{Jesus}; but he shall be broken without hand.

Dan. 9:27 And he shall confirm the covenant with many {Nations not just Israel} for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.

Dan. 11:40 And at the time of the end shall the king of the south push at him: and the king of the north {Beast/A.C.} shall come against him like a whirlwind, with chariots, and with horsemen, and with many ships; and he shall enter into the countries, and shall overflow and pass over.

41 He shall enter also into the glorious land, AND MANY countries shall be overthrown: but these shall escape out of his hand, even Edom, and Moab, and the chief of the children of Ammon {Central & Southern Jordan, where Israel {Woman} Flees for 1260 days}.

42 He shall stretch forth his hand also upon the countries: and the land of Egypt shall not escape. 43 But he shall have power over the treasures of gold and of silver, and over all the precious things of Egypt: and the Libyans and the Ethiopians shall be at his steps.

So THE MANY, are many Nations the A.C. has Agreements with, he tricks/defeats them via PEACE, then once he gets their guard down he pulls a Hitler and Blitzes them with War Forces. He Conquers not just Israel, but the whole Mediterranean Sea Coast of Africa and the Middle East via Israel, Lebanon and Syria. The Fourth Beast will be pretty much identical to this A.C. Beast. Thus he is said to have arisen out of his head. If a son is born unto us and looks just like us, its deemed to be a chip off the ole block so to speak. This AC Beast will look just like the Fourth Beast, but its of course not the same Beast. 

Impressive but for the untenable position that the Roman empire has anything to do with the beast at the end of days. Islam fits the fourth terrible, dreadful, unusual iron toothed beast much better; and Islam is alive, and strong and everywhere. The Roman empire is dead. The EU doesn't even have any part in the ten kings. It's a non-starter.

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5 hours ago, Diaste said:

Impressive but for the untenable position that the Roman empire has anything to do with the beast at the end of days. Islam fits the fourth terrible, dreadful, unusual iron toothed beast much better; and Islam is alive, and strong and everywhere. The Roman empire is dead. The EU doesn't even have any part in the ten kings. It's a non-starter.

Its only a non starter to those who have been in error on who the Beast is and about Islam being a "strongman" in the end times, its not. The problem people have is they follow ideas, men's traditions, instead of following the bibles coded prophetic massages. The Pharisees had the same problem brother, they were learned men no doubt, but they couldn't see the Jesus in the scriptures, no doubt because of their learned ways. The babes {disciples} could see him as Lord. The Pharisees depended on their mind, Jesus told the Disciples that the Father had revealed unto them whom he was. 

You are correct, the Roman Empire is dead, she was the head that suffered the Mortal Wound. When the Wound is healed it is via the E.U. President/AC who arises to power out of the old Fourth Beast's Head {Dan.7}. He however is born in Greece {Dan.8} because out of all of the Four Generals territory, ONLY Greece is in the E.U. and this is why we get the DETAILED RUNDOWN of the Greek Kings in Daniel 11. It runs to Antiochus in verses 21-33 as THE TYPE and then we see the End Time Anti-Christ in verses 36-45. By reading the book of Maccabees and history we can also see the False Prophet TYPE, his name was Jason {real name Yeshua} whom Antiochus appointed to be the Jewish High Priest, who then tried to Hellenize the Jews, leading to the Maccabean Revolt. Jason's brother Onias III was a Pious High Priest, they conspired to have him killed and Jason appointed via a bribe.

So we had the TWO TYPES working together at the exact same time. Dan. 11 is about Greek Lineage, which is where the A.C. arises/is born from, even though he comes to power out of the E.U. in the exact likeness of the Fourth Beast. In other words, if the Beast Kingdom of the AC looked exactly like the 3rd Beast, it would have been proclaimed to have come out of the 3rd Beasts Head, but it arises out of the Fourth Beasts Head as PER THE KINGDOM, the King/AC arises out of one of the FOUR GENERALS, and the only one that qualifies is Greece, THEN we get the Daniel 11 DETAILED RUNDOWN of Greek Kings!! Add in Isaiah 10, and he will be an ASSYRIAN {Turk} which has a common border with Greece, and it all jibes brother.

People have this Islam angle in their head now-a-days just like people had the RCC angle in their heads 30-40 years ago, BOTH are feints or head fakes by Satan, neither one is true, What is true is what I got from my bible above. All the pieces of the puzzle has to fit. Islam is the largest part of the Harlot that is Judged in Rev. 17:16, she is KILLED OFF, there is no place on earth for any other god save Beast Worship, he MAGNIFIES HIMSELF !!  The 10 Kings kill her off !! The Harlot is all false religion, and she is Judged by God and He uses the 10 Kings/Beast to bring forth His judgment, verse 17 says so, it says God placed it in THEIR HEARTS........to DO HIS WILL !! 

People try to FORCE ISLAM to fit, it doesn't fit brother, neither does the RCC, Satan is a master of deception. 

P.S. Its not the Roman Empire, its the E.U. President who will be the Beast, thus Daniel 7:11 tells us the Beasts BODY is DESTROYED and he is then cast into HELL FIRE.  The Last Beast is a Man, not the Old Roman Empire, which is why we get the 666 number of a man. 

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I have got many maps and jpg images copyright free . I have found many of them on wikipedia  and others had been modified. Anyone interested I can put them on Google drive and email you the link. Message me if you want them.

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16 hours ago, Revelation Man said:

He however is born in Greece {Dan.8} because out of all of the Four Generals territory, ONLY Greece is in the E.U.

 

The EU as criteria is supposition. It's not mentioned in scripture.

16 hours ago, Revelation Man said:

He however is born in Greece {Dan.8} because out of all of the Four Generals territory, ONLY Greece is in the E.U.

 

Not true. Since the 4 notable ones spread in the cardinal directions it more than plausible the references to the KOTN and the KOTS are Lysimachus and Ptolemy and their descendants all the way to 2019 and beyond. And even if it's nothing to with lineage, the areas where they ruled have survived. That being the case Cassander in Macedonia would have be the west, Seleucus in the east.

The only evidence of the west in Daniel 11 that I see is the reference to Javan. But the land of Javan comes against the beast, so the beast isn't from Greece. If Daniel 11 is taken as a whole the beast is in Mesopotamia.

16 hours ago, Revelation Man said:

Add in Isaiah 10, and he will be an ASSYRIAN {Turk} which has a common border with Greece, and it all jibes brother.

And Assyria was ruled by Seleucus after the Greek empire was split up. And if the little comes out of one of them, and the beast is Assyrian, then it makes more sense the beast originates from the Seleucid Empire, which it does.

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On 11/19/2019 at 3:07 AM, Diaste said:

The EU as criteria is supposition. It's not mentioned in scripture.

 

Successful surgery Tuesday, thanks for all the prayers guys.

 

It is fact brother, the fact that you can't add up 2 + 2 here leaves me wondering why ? It clearly tells us this Little Horn ARISES out of the Fourth Beast does it not brother ? If you admit this your whole thesis is defeated. WHO CARES about ones thesis brother ? God knows all, we are just here trying to learn, you think god didn't tell me WRONG, WRONG, WRONG many times ? One things Christians know via the voice of God, we know when its OF GOD and when its CONJECTURE or SUPPOSITION. I can have all kinda ideas, but on;y those willing to be rebuffed get NO, we have to be able to hear no, because it comes quite often, because we have bad ideas quite often.

 

On 11/19/2019 at 3:07 AM, Diaste said:

Not true. Since the 4 notable ones spread in the cardinal directions it more than plausible the references to the KOTN and the KOTS are Lysimachus and Ptolemy and their descendants all the way to 2019 and beyond. And even if it's nothing to with lineage, the areas where they ruled have survived. That being the case Cassander in Macedonia would have be the west, Seleucus in the east.

The only evidence of the west in Daniel 11 that I see is the reference to Javan. But the land of Javan comes against the beast, so the beast isn't from Greece. If Daniel 11 is taken as a whole the beast is in Mesopotamia.

Since the Little Horn has to ARISE from the Fourth Beast and only Greece fits of the Four as per being able to bring this to pass, its Greece. I will tell you where your thinking on this is off kilter, God did not want this understood until the END TIMES {He even told Daniel this} so what better way to make the Prophecy contingent on End Time Events ? Only when we see which of the Four Generals Kingdoms is ELIGIBLE to be the King {President} in the Fourth Beast will we know where the Fourth Beast is from. Instead you are looking at it from the wars that happened over 2000 years ago. God could have given us a clue in that way if He so wished, but it would have been easier to solve then, and he didn't want it solved until now. 

Dan.:8 9 And out of one of them came forth a little horn, which waxed exceeding great, toward the south, and toward the east, and toward the pleasant land. {{ Greece is NORTHWEST of Israel, he comes from the Northwest, towards the South & East and Israel. }}

This is him becoming the BEAST Below:

Daniel 11:40 And at the time of the end shall the king of the south push at him: and the king of the north shall come against him like a whirlwind, with chariots, and with horsemen, and with many ships; and he shall enter into the countries, and shall overflow and pass over.

41 He shall enter also into the glorious land, and many countries shall be overthrown: but these shall escape out of his hand, even Edom, and Moab, and the chief of the children of Ammon.

42 He shall stretch forth his hand also upon the countries: and the land of Egypt shall not escape.

43 But he shall have power over the treasures of gold and of silver, and over all the precious things of Egypt: and the Libyans and the Ethiopians shall be at his steps.

 

On 11/19/2019 at 3:07 AM, Diaste said:

And Assyria was ruled by Seleucus after the Greek empire was split up. And if the little comes out of one of them, and the beast is Assyrian, then it makes more sense the beast originates from the Seleucid Empire, which it does.

Don't get hung up on him being Assyrian, many Turks live in Greece. God gave me this a couple of years ago. Am I the first ? Who knows are cares, its not about me, Its about God's Word. I refuse to take in anything that doesn't match the scriptures 100 percent, so I am like this little punk boxer who has no power, no speed, etc. etc. but I keep plugging along. God wanted BABES as disciples. I have no degrees telling me how to think thus and thus, I just try to hear God brother, that's all I care about.

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