Not everyone.....

[followerofjesus]

Jesus says one thing, then.......or is it just me?

Any thoughts?

Yomo

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its just you.. just kidding

[other one]

Hi all.

I want to ask a question.

It says in the NKJV

"Not everyone who says to Me Lord, Lord, shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of my Father in heaven.

Many will say to Me in that day, "Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in Your name, cast out demons in Your name, and done many wonders in Your name?

And then I will declare  to them  "I never knew you, depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness!"

Matthew 7 v 21-23

Wow.........this really made me feel nervous.

I want to say, "Without God with you, you CAN'T do wonders, you CAN'T cast out demons, and you CAN'T do anything like that.......soooooo I got a bit scared!!!

I quicky turned to the book of Luke...

"And those who heard it said "Who then can be saved?"

But He said "the things which atre impossible with men are possible with God."

Well, folks, I'm stumpted.

Jesus says one thing, then.......or is it just me?

When I look at the first few verses.......it's quite concern-making!!!

Any thoughts?

Yomo

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Yomo, Romans tells us that we must confess the Lordship of Jesus and believe in our hearts that the Father raised Him from the dead.

There is a difference in saying that Jesus is Lord, and confessing that He is your personal Lord. First off if you have not actually made Him your Lord then you are not saved but condemned yourself as a liar. Second, if you have really made Him your Lord and confessed it to others, then you are obligated to follow His instructions as His servant. His instructions were/are/will be to follow the will of the Father. This is what He taught during the time He was here.

So, some will call Him Lord, but have not really made Him thier Lord so don't follow His instructions and are nor ever have been saved.

This is the way I understand those verses you post here.

Sam

[yomotalking]

"Of course the devil can cast out his demons, they're his, aren't they????

I thought Jesus said "a house divided against itself cannot stand?"

That's confusing!!!

Yomo

[other one]

Yomo, if you are self deceived into thinking that you are saved and are not, the easiest way to keep you that way is for satan and his followers to do your bidding as you demand in the name of Jesus to do things.

I would think that they would come out of people when that kind of a person demans it, and laughs around the corner as it walks away knowing that it has that person in the end.

We should all daily keep a check on our hearts to assure that it is in the right place (and I don't mean literally ).

[Christ's Free Servant]

Many do healings "in the name of Jesus" and the people are healed, but it is not the 'healer' but the faith and repentance of the one needing healing. Just because you use his name and know that there is power in it doesn't make you you saved. The Demons believe, remember, but will they be saved? No, these verses are describing those that have an appearence of Godliness

2Ti 3:5

Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away. 

3:7

Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth.

Seeing this, Kefa addressed the people: "Men of Isra'el! Why are you amazed at this? Or why do you stare at us as if we had made this man walk through some power or godliness of our own? acts 3:12

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Good Response!

[Work in Progress]

I want to say, "Without God with you, you CAN'T do wonders, you CAN'T cast out demons, and you CAN'T do anything like that.......soooooo I got a bit scared!!!

Yomo, many do "wonders" and other supernatural things without God - think of all the popular "psychics" out there, and those who speak to the dead (that guy who has a television show that was so popular recently, sorry, can't think of his name) and do other such "miracles". Think of the televangelists who claim God's name, yet do not serve Him. Someone is whispering in their ear - and it's not God.

God allows satan and his followers certain powers. Some may be outright deceiving (us, or themselves, or both) and say they "serve God". But they don't - they serve satan and his purposes.

Don't be freaked out about what Jesus said - just be aware and excersise discernment.

[followerofjesus]

you who practice lawlessness!" This is the key phrase. If we practice lawlessness we are being unfaithful.

[ColleenLovesMischief]

I believe God was talking about the 'posers' there. You know the actors. The stuffy "yes I'm a Christian" in public, not give a rats patoot what they do in privite. They say it but don't live it.

[Kabowd]

you who practice lawlessness!" This is the key phrase. If we practice lawlessness we are being unfaithful.

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Actually "I never knew you" is the key phrase. As Jesus already referenced, they had been doing many things in His name .... good things according to those on the "outside". But He looks at the heart, and He didn't have a personal relationship with them. This is why even the seemingly "good" things they did amounted to "lawlessness". Not because they were bad things, but because they did them without even knowing Christ...or Him knowing them.

They were rejected because He didn't know them, not because of the things they did.