california church changes the nativity

[Sower]

37 minutes ago, Coliseum said:

I think that when we are talking about unsaved people---and I am presuming this---we will find all matter of taboo subjects. I am attempting to understand what I said through the eyes of people who are unsaved. Before I was saved, the "anything goes" idea was very compelling, and nothing I did in any way placed Jesus on the high place he deserved. Yet, in His grace---as with so many also undeserving people---He saved me.

Sorry, my post actually did not have anything to do with your previous post.
Was only looking for an entry to reply. Scusi....
Concerning the lost though, it seemed there was an understanding of shame still around (way) back then by most.
People knew what it was about without being told.
Shame is pretty much non existent today.  The trend is to be shameless.
When people ask, I describe the Clinton presidency of America as one word,
Shame.     (As Americans, our shame!)

I do remember my mom catching me doing something wrong and saying,
"You ought to be ashamed of yourself, son!"

(and I was!)
 

[samuelg1]

The reality is that they are illegal aliens who are in violation of border law. They need to be sent back. 

[samuelg1]

45 minutes ago, Abby-Joy said:

The media is not giving the full story of the plights of many who seek to come here for refuge. Many atrocities happen under the guise of "national security"...such as women and children being trafficked at the border. 

I know what I have to say isn't popular...that isn't new. 

These atrocities would not be happening if they just stayed at home instead of illegally jumping the border. 

There are many millions applying for legal immigration status: you can't cry "victim" when you attempt to jump the line. 

Edited December 11, 2019 by samuelg1

[preciouspearl]

50 minutes ago, samuelg1 said:

These atrocities would not be happening if they just stayed at home instead of illegally jumping the border. 

There are many millions applying for legal immigration status: you can't cry "victim" when you attempt to jump the line. 

trafficking often has travel. this is going on at home already technically.

[samuelg1]

2 minutes ago, preciouspearl said:

trafficking often has travel. this is going on at home already technically.

Trafficking is already happening in the US so we should allow in more illegals so that they can traffic too. Impeccable logic lol.

[preciouspearl]

Just now, samuelg1 said:

Trafficking is already happening in the US so we should allow in more illegals so that they can traffic too. Impeccable logic lol.

please dont fight with me. im not saying we should allow it . you just didnt seem to understand they were already being trafficked and it just doesnt happen when they get to the border. that was my point. instead you criticize my logic instead of maybe asking to clear something up?

 

[samuelg1]

1 minute ago, preciouspearl said:

please dont fight with me. im not saying we should allow it . you just didnt seem to understand they were already being trafficked and it just doesnt happen when they get to the border. that was my point. instead you criticize my logic instead of maybe asking to clear something up?

 

Human trafficking is happening in every country. That much is evident. That's no reason to tolerate it here or elsewhere. There is no excuse to tolerate any crime.

[ReneeIW]

2 hours ago, Margo1945 said:

this is going to continue to be an ongoing issue with no finish, so there is no reason why each family cannot be housed in a simple room that is walled, so as to give them privacy..

I had a sincere question but feel free to ignore if you like?but where do the resources come from for something like this  that occurs out of the blue?

One of the issues was that the media was claiming that Trump was overhyping the border issue in order to get the funding for the  “Wall” that he promised during the campaign. Lots of people didn’t even know there was an actual crisis at the border.

You can’t just find rooms for all those families out of nowhere. It’s difficult for American citizens who have lived here all their lives   to find housing after natural disasters. 

Edited December 12, 2019 by ReneeIW

[Neighbor]

Well I guess the oddity of that Methodist Church's display has at least some  writing and thinking about the homeless and the refugee, and the wanderers.