Cunning Manipulation or Christian Contiriton?

[frienduff thaylorde]

Well, all that needed to be said was said .

Off to other posts now .    Let all feast on bibles only and let all grow in the TRUE GRACE of GOD .   

[Alive]

4 minutes ago, frienduff thaylorde said:

Its more important and far above even that .   IF we do not forgive men their trespasses  , GOD WILL NOT FORGIVE OURS .

But again ,   What I said earlier stands TRUE .  this was all done dead wrong .  dead wrong .   and do I mean dead wrong .

I can whiff the false from the true , and what they did , was all errnouneous .    

NOW pray for that man ,  pray for his soul , pray he repents .  In this life we reap what we sow ,  BUT at least if one TRULY repents as did KING david ,  Well

no matter what price they have to pay ,  THEY STILL can abound and rejoice in the LORD .

This ought never to have been done the way it was done and aired for all the world to see and then cheerleading a man .

Should have been done in private and sharp rebukes should have been given to that man .  The church they attend should have kept it at their level .And

in no way  should this have become a giant camp of cheerleaders  .   IT was done DEAD WRONG .    IT WAS TRULY DONE DEAD WRONG . 

Just ponder and pray about it .

Of course it was handled in wrong fashion.

[ReneeIW]

1 hour ago, frienduff thaylorde said:

8 hours ago, ReneeIW said:

 

Its the way it all went down .    They praised this man , yet he had committed adultery .

While we do and are to forgive , this whole thing is manipulated .

I cant even imagine paul standing before a church and the church praising the one who erred , because he took it before all .

I didn’t have time to read through the entire thread yet , but just wanted to mention that they”praised” him on several occasions. They held a the church event which ended up in the paper. They held a retreat where they brought him on stage and said we all have secrets, and then they held a surprise party for him when he got out of rehab. 

Those celebrations were not in response to one incident but several. 

I don’t know if anyone has heard of the “Love  and Respect Marriage” best selling  Christian Book? Well, the author of that book holds rallies about Christian marriage all over the country and this guy that cheats on his wife sponsors those events. That is partly why they are celebrating him to save his reputation. But I think it hurts the church as a whole, not just the married couple involved.

 

[Neighbor]

1 hour ago, Flowersun said:

My question is...how do we know God chose that spouse for them?

 

God was and is sovereign over all matters, even poor marriage selections. If God has ( and He has) foreknown and predestined all those He has given to his Son to shepherd, did He know and do only pertaining to after one turns to Jesus by the specific call of the Holy Spirit?  I think the answer is God not only knew he predetermined all the events of life of each of us.  Has He foreknown and predetermined only what I may see as the good that has happened to me?

 I think of Job, I think of Paul, and how they counted all the events of their life.

 

[Neighbor]

26 minutes ago, Margo1945 said:

obedience is just that -  obedience .. and repentance is just that - repentance

But, but, what  of "true" obedience and "true" repentance? "Truly" they must require some adverb-age also?  

[Neighbor]

 A believer is just that, a believer. A believer can be just as quick to fail and any "true" sinner.

A"true" sinner?  Do others  that are not true sinners just look like sin?

 

 

[Neighbor]

Thought maybe I should go back to the thread subject since I have kinda hijacked it for a few posts. So I read it again.

Perhaps the sin here is the thread itself. To be bringing this topic and it's details to total strangers on the internet, seems to serve no good purpose, and is more of a rather idle  entertainment with a possible additional humiliation to a woman, her husband, and an entire church. To what good purpose? 

Sorry that I have participated in it at all. I should have known better, Fact I do know better but fell into it anyway.  I am personally ashamed to have participated in it or to have even read any post past half way through the first one. Shame on me.

[ReneeIW]

7 minutes ago, Neighbor said:

Thought maybe I should go back to the thread subject since I have kinda hijacked it for a few posts. So I read it again.

Perhaps the sin here is the thread itself. To be bringing this topic and it's details to total strangers on the internet, seems to serve no good purpose, and is simply rather idle  entertainment with a possible additional humiliation to a woman, her husband, and an entire church. To what good purpose? 

Sorry that I have participated in it at all. I should have known better, Fact I do know better but fell into it anyway.  I am personally ashamed to have participated in it or to have even read any post past half way through the first one. Shame on me.

Please don’t feel like the thread was posted for entertainment. First, they placed themselves on YouTube, in the press  and have been acknowledged in Christian Books for years.

As I said before, I know them personally and have been part of the pain. I was genuinely looking for feedback. When you have not only a church(they called the press to that church, and the pastor from the Charleston shooting was there and he is somewhat of  a celebrity now) but different Christian groups praising them, I think it affects everyone. They are trying to change the face of Christianity. Creating a faith where anyone can do anything and those that judge are “ throwing stones.”

It is not entertainment, and although the wife and children all the most harmed when adultery occurs, lots of other people feel betrayed, hurt and are sometimes   under threat for not keeping heir mouths shut.   

But I guess you need someone to pick on, so go ahead and pick on me for posting it.

Edited December 19, 2019 by ReneeIW

[ReneeIW]

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Edited December 19, 2019 by ReneeIW

[ReneeIW]

40 minutes ago, Neighbor said:

and is more of a rather idle  entertainment with a possible additional humiliation to a woman, her husband, and an entire church. T

It’s interesting. This it’s exactly what they said when the man was exposed. It was turned around on the person doing the exposing. The “snitch” or the “rat” that brings to light wrong doing. Because the worse thing you can do is not cheat on your wife or commit other sins and crimes, but tell  that someone did those things. Straight out of Mafia culture. Not surprised to see the thread end this way. 

Edited December 19, 2019 by ReneeIW