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1 hour ago, johnthebaptist said:

By the Lord.

You were not asked who saved you, you were asked HOW they saved you., and apparently quite a few times., as they said "4".

Seems to be a real issue with you.

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3 hours ago, Behold said:

What was the actual experience you had in 1973, that you said was an encounter with the Lord?

The Lord just made his presence known to me. It was a beautiful experience, but soon the work began.


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3 hours ago, Behold said:

God does not allow Sin into heaven, and we are sinners judged by the Law to be so, until we are born again.  

 Its a specific sin, that is unpardonable, that if not resolved,  that will keep you and God apart for eternity, and that sin is the sin of dying as a Christ Rejector.   As if  you do that, you have died with all your sin on you, with no Blood of Jesus shed that is applied to you by God to resolve this for you... So, you die UNPARDONED - UNFORGIVEN....or as Christ defined it...."you will die IN your sin if you reject me as LORD-Messiah-Savior-Redeemer"

Lucifer tried sinning in Heaven, and some angles also, and God sent them all OUT.    There is no sin found in Heaven, so we have to get ours resolved before we die, or we dont get to stay there, after we die.

If a "age of accountability" human dies, having never by Faith allowed Jesus to pay for ALL their sin by His death and Resurrection, then they die IN them, and will end up in Hell and the Lake of Fire, because they died rejecting the sin forgiving and resolving Blood of Jesus.     A hell bound sinner will cry out to God according to Revelation 20:11 ......"dont sent me there, i dont want to BURN", and God will say...."You had all your life to receive my Son and His forgiveness. You heard the Gospel TRUTH many times and you turned away... and you CHOSE NOT TO RECEIVE HIM AS YOUR SAVIOR, so, your CHOICE HAS SENT YOU OUT OF HERE and into the place reserved for the Devil and His angles and all those who hate me and rejected ME and MY SON. !   DEPART !

One of the worst parts of eternal damnation is knowing you caused it for yourself.  And eternity will give a Christ Rejector a very long time to think about that in the Lake of Fire.

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The Gospel is this........Because we are sinners, this creates a separation between Us and God, that only Christ can resolve by His Shed Blood, thru our Faith.  "faith is counted as Righteousness".    You give God your faith in Christ and God will give you "the  free gift of Righteousness".

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 Hell/Lake of Fire is a final destination.   Its one of 2.   You have Heaven, and you have Hell/Lake of Fire.  These are the only 2 eternal destinations, regarding the consequences of being Saved or not.

A person is born, they reach a certain age where sin becomes a  mental choice  and once that happens they have till  their death to reach for the nail scarred hand of the Lord of ALL, before whom EVERY KNEE SHALL BOW and EVERY TONGUE WILL CONFESS THAT JESUS IS LORD !

God is so merciful and loving,  that He came to earth to die on a Cross to allow sinners to be made righteous by this Gift of Jesus's Sacrifice of BLOOD and DEATH.

IF they dont take it, God is still merciful, but they are doomed, even before they die according to John 3:36, as the wrath of God thru the LAW has already judged every sinner already, and all that is left is for them to end up where sinners end up after they die, unless they turn to the Cross before they die, and are washed in the Blood of the Lamb.

Some people think the Lord just "waves a magic wand" and sin stops, but I think we have to make the effort to repent of our sin. The Lord helps us.


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58 minutes ago, Behold said:

You were not asked who saved you, you were asked HOW they saved you., and apparently quite a few times., as they said "4".

Seems to be a real issue with you.

Only God knows how to save. He's straightened out my life over and over again.


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Just now, johnthebaptist said:

Some people think the Lord just "waves a magic wand" and sin stops, but I think we have to make the effort to repent of our sin. The Lord helps us.

Trying to keep the law in our own power, actually inflames our carnal passions.

Human nature, the fallen Adamic nature, is a twisted spiritual situation, in that when its told not do something, this creates a stronger appetite to want to do it.

So, if a religious person is gritting their teeth and biting their lip trying to resist flesh, trying not to sin,  the Law will actually dominion empower your flesh to be stronger and you'll sin even more.

The way you stop sinning, is not by resisting it by believing correctly regarding Grace.

"presenting your body as a living sacrifice" and "having self control over your own inner self" is the fruit of the  Grace of God that begins to free you from sin once you understand it.

"sin shall NO LONGER HAVE DOMINION OVER YOU< = BECAUSE you are no longer UNDER THE LAW.....but under Grace.

So, to walk in the Spirt is to walk according to the Law of Grace that frees you from the Law's dominion that once caused you to want to sin more and more and more.

A person who is trying to stop sinning by self effort, is under the Law's dominion, and they are "in the Flesh", and they will sin and sin and fight it, and lose.

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17 minutes ago, johnthebaptist said:

Only God knows how to save. He's straightened out my life over and over again.

You were asked how He does it, 4x

So, your answer does not have anything to do with going to heaven, or How you get there,  and that is why people keep asking you.

No one has asked you if God was able to get your life back on track, they have only asked you about SALVATION of your soul. = Going to Heaven, and HOW God does that...

 

 

 

 

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2 hours ago, Behold said:

Trying to keep the law in our own power, actually inflames our carnal passions.

Human nature, the fallen Adamic nature, is a twisted spiritual situation, in that when its told not do something, this creates a stronger appetite to want to do it.

So, if a religious person is gritting their teeth and biting their lip trying to resist flesh, trying not to sin,  the Law will actually dominion empower your flesh to be stronger and you'll sin even more.

The way you stop sinning, is not by resisting it by believing correctly regarding Grace.

"presenting your body as a living sacrifice" and "having self control over your own inner self" is the fruit of the  Grace of God that begins to free you from sin once you understand it.

"sin shall NO LONGER HAVE DOMINION OVER YOU< = BECAUSE you are no longer UNDER THE LAW.....but under Grace.

So, to walk in the Spirt is to walk according to the Law of Grace that frees you from the Law's dominion that once caused you to want to sin more and more and more.

A person who is trying to stop sinning by self effort, is under the Law's dominion, and they are "in the Flesh", and they will sin and sin and fight it, and lose.

Well, we need the Lord's help, I would agree, but we need to obey the Lord's commandments, and that requires effort.


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2 hours ago, Behold said:

 

You were asked how He does it, 4x

So, your answer does not have anything to do with going to heaven, or How you get there,  and that is why people keep asking you.

No one has asked you if God was able to get your life back on track, they have only asked you about SALVATION of your soul. = Going to Heaven, and HOW God does that...

 

 

 

 

When Jesus died on the cross, he ransomed us from Satan. Is that what you are looking for?


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6 minutes ago, johnthebaptist said:

Well, we need the Lord's help, I would agree, but we need to obey the Lord's commandments, and that requires effort.

“ By The Works Of The Law, NO man will be justified”

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10 hours ago, Blood Bought 1953 said:

“ By The Works Of The Law, NO man will be justified”

But sin brings trouble into our lives, and Jesus told us not to sin.

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