Rapture before the antichrist in Matthew 24

[iamlamad]

9 hours ago, DeighAnn said:

God created everyone and everything and all is under His control SO whatever they do it is ultimately under Gods control.  

 

Satan has NEVER BEEN A GOD, NEVER WILL BE.  Satan is a created being and once was a king but now is "prince of the power of the air".  Just as God did with Pharaoh and Nebuchadnezzar, HE will use whom ever he will.  

Can we just trust in scripture and believe what is written? Paul called Satan this:

2 Corinthians 4:4

In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.

 

Jesus called him a prince: 

John 12:31 Now is the judgment of this world: now shall the prince of this world be cast out.

John 14:30 Hereafter I will not talk much with you: for the prince of this world cometh, and hath nothing in me.

John 16:11  Of judgment, because the prince of this world is judged.

I guess we could say that after Adam sinned, Satan because the spiritual leader of this world. He usurped Adam's great authority.

In short, I stand by what I said, God is NOT in control of everything on earth. He is not the author of a mother of 3 young kids dying of cancer. The God of heaven does not murder with disease. None of that kind of stuff is God's will.  That is why God taught us to pray, "thy will be done on earth as it is done in heaven..."

Edited March 17, 2020 by iamlamad

[iamlamad]

9 hours ago, DeighAnn said:

GOD USES THE PAST AS EXAMPLES FOR THE FUTURE.  I didn't "sneek" in anything.  

THE BEAST is a political system.

 
REALLY?  That's not going to be very convincing is it? 

Is it going to be like "Hi, I am christ returned, and I am now going to enslave and KILL people.   WHO is it that will believe him at that point???  Certainly not "the whole world".  

GOD USES THE PAST AS EXAMPLES FOR THE FUTURE.  I didn't "sneek" in anything.  

You put a quote about Antiochus from the past with a quote from a future event. I agree, the past can show us examples. I think, if you put two such scriptures together as the past an example of the future, you should state your intention.  otherwise a reader will suppose you think the two fit together and are saying the same thing. 

THE BEAST is a political system.  
Yes, this is true, but the Beast as shown in Rev. 13 is also a MAN, just as the False Prophet is a MAN. And these two MEN will be living in Jerusalem during much of the last half of the 70th week.  Later in the book these two MEN are cast into the lake of fire. How could a "system" be cast into the lake of fire? 

REALLY?  That's not going to be very convincing is it? 
Is it going to be like "Hi, I am christ returned, and I am now going to enslave and KILL people.   WHO is it that will believe him at that point???  Certainly not "the whole world".  

Again, can we just go by what is written? I did not make this up!

Revelation 13:3  And I saw one of his heads as it were wounded to death; and his deadly wound was healed: and all the world wondered after the beast.
4 And they [all the world] worshipped the dragon which gave power unto the beast: and they worshipped the beast, saying, Who is like unto the beast? who is able to make war with him?

⁸ And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.

Make no mistake here: these two, the Beast and False Prophet are going to deceive the ENTIRE WORLD - all except those whose names are written in the Book of life. And they do this from the city of Jerusalem.

[iamlamad]

9 hours ago, DeighAnn said:

  Where is it Jesus foot touches down?  What happens at that point? 

On this also, I must stick with  the Word of God

1 Corinthians 15:50 Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption.

1 Corinthians 15:51 Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed,

1 Corinthians 15:52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.

1 Corinthians 15:53 For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality.

1 Corinthians 15:54 So when this corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and this mortal shall have put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written, Death is swallowed up in victory.

1 Corinthians 15:55 O death, where is thy sting? O grave, where is thy victory?

Flesh doesn't do well past, well for some very young.  So lets say someone is 105 when Christ returns.  Are you saying they will live to be 1120 in a flesh body? 

AND RE-POPULATE THE EARTH?  

Matthew 22:29 Jesus answered and said unto them, Ye do err, not knowing the scriptures, nor the power of God.

Matthew 22:30 For in the resurrection they neither marry, nor are given in marriage, but are as the angels of God in heaven.

I am going with we don't have the same understanding and beliefs



 

Isaiah 45:8 Drop down, ye heavens, from above, and let the skies pour down righteousness: let the earth open, and let them bring forth salvation, and let righteousness spring up together; I the LORD have created it.

Isaiah 45:9 Woe unto him that striveth with his Maker! Let the potsherd strive with the potsherds of the earth. Shall the clay say to him that fashioneth it, What makest thou? or thy work, He hath no hands?

Isaiah 45:10 Woe unto him that saith unto his father, What begettest thou? or to the woman, What hast thou brought forth?

Isaiah 45:11 Thus saith the LORD, the Holy One of Israel, and his Maker, Ask me of things to come concerning my sons, and concerning the work of my hands command ye me.

Isaiah 45:12 I have made the earth, and created man upon it: I, even my hands, have stretched out the heavens, and all their host have I commanded.

flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God

This is true, Flesh and blood could not survive in the Kingdom of God in heaven. This is speaking of heaven. Paul is saying that the human body will be changed into a resurrection body before we are escorted into heaven.  Does this verse tell us that no flesh body can be on earth during the Millennial reign of Christ. NO! Certainly not. Paul is talking about heaven.

Where is it Jesus foot touches down?  What happens at that point?

You know as well as I: it is on Mt. Olives and when He touches down an earthquake causes a great valley to be created, which is an escape route for Jews.

So lets say someone is 105 when Christ returns.  Are you saying they will live to be 1120 in a flesh body?  

I think in Isaiah 65, speaking of the Millennial reign, wrote:

20 "Never again will there be in it an infant who lives but a few days, or an old man who does not live out his years; the one who dies at a hundred will be thought a mere child; the one who fails to reach a hundred will be considered accursed.

You should understand, the curse will be lifted off the earth. There will be no more curse. It may well be that someone will live to be a thousand years old.  But if they die, there will surely be another resurrection before the new heaven and earth.

 

[DeighAnn]

2 hours ago, iamlamad said:

Yes, I agree, Herod killed the children on earth. But when forming doctrines or beliefs, the first point is to discover the Author's intent in the entire passage. Chapter 12 was Jesus introducing John to the Dragon, and in particular, what the Dragon would be doing during the last half of the 70th week (The Dragon is mentioned I think 32 times!) in this vision  He was showing John.  HE CHOSE to show John how the Dragon had tried to kill Him as a child. 

Yes, I did notice.  If I may ask WHEN were the stars or constellations formed? 

Revelation 12:1 And there appeared a great wonder in heaven; a woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and upon her head a crown of twelve stars:

Revelation 12:2 And she being with child cried, travailing in birth, and pained to be delivered.

An Age, yes?  Same as the labor pains that will/are being felt as another new age comes upon us, yes?  


A couple of questions before I go on, if you don't mind because if we are not proceeding from this same foundation, there is no point to continue.  I have done as instructed, put forth Truth.  

 When did the "not yet called Satan, the serpent, the dragon"  exist without sin?  or When was iniquity found in him? 
Surely BEFORE the garden of this age, yes?  

Revelation 12:3 And there appeared another wonder in heaven; and behold a great red dragon, having seven heads and ten horns, and seven crowns upon his heads. (SO THIS HAPPENS FIRST, IN HEAVEN)

Revelation 12:4 And his tail drew the third part of the stars of heaven, and did cast them to the earth: and the dragon stood before the woman which was ready to be delivered, for to devour her child as soon as it was born.


WHEN was it that ALL THE SONS OF GOD (FINITE NUMBER) shouted for joy and the MORNING STARS (FINITE NUMBER) sang together?  WHO was CAST TO THE EARTH? 

Job 38:4 Where wast thou when I laid the foundations of the earth? declare, if thou hast understanding.

Job 38:5 Who hath laid the measures thereof, if thou knowest? or who hath stretched the line upon it?

Job 38:6 Whereupon are the foundations thereof fastened? or who laid the corner stone thereof;

Job 38:7 When the morning stars sang together, and all the sons of God shouted for joy?


GOD tells us, AND is MOST SPECIFIC with the wording.  If you would like to tell me "it means something different", or "that isn't what He meant",  please don't.  There is nothing anyone could say that would make me "DRAW BACK" FROM this understanding.  
GOD has said EXACTLY what God means.  

Isaiah 45:18 For thus saith the LORD That created the heavens; God Himself that formed the earth and made it; He hath established it, He created it not in vain, He formed it to be inhabited: I am the LORD; and there is none else.

HEBREW -  NOT IN VAIN = LO TOHU


GOD ALSO tells us, and is most specific  with the wording once again, though the translation in my opinion was done by a kenite, but that is an opinion.  

Genesis 1:2 And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.

HEBREW -  FORMLESS AND VOID  =  TOHU WA BOHU

Which brings us to the word "WAS"  =  1961  hayah  to fall out, come to pass, became, be 
Same as in Gen 31 when speaking of the serpent


Genesis 3:1 Now the serpent WAS more subtil than any beast of the field which the LORD God had made. And he said unto the woman, Yea, hath God said, Ye shall not eat of every tree of the garden?


Truth and Reality through hours of searching, seeking and prayer.  Pretty much went kicking and screaming the whole way even continued searching for anyway possible that it could be put differently, mean different things, be an analogy, just spiritual etc,  the whole nine yards.  It is what it is and not only that, it answers SOO many questions that CAN NOT be answered with any other Scripture.   It does not conflict with anything, not one verse so far.  

So you see, we could not be further apart on this.  We don't even have this event taking place in the same age or the same place.  Does your belief conflict with any of Gods Words?  Do you have to "make it fit?"  What is the point of telling John they tried to kill Him?  The Word already clearly told us this fact.  

So what is being shown is "ages".  That is why your explanation doesn't make any sense to the words written by God.  But as Peter so penned for the LORD

2 Peter 3:1 This second epistle, beloved, I now write unto you; in both which I stir up your pure minds by way of remembrance:

2 Peter 3:2 That ye may be mindful of the words which were spoken before by the holy prophets, and of the commandment of us the apostles of the Lord and Saviour:

2 Peter 3:3 Knowing this first, that there shall come in the last days scoffers, walking after their own lusts,

2 Peter 3:4 And saying, Where is the promise of his coming? for since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of the creation.

2 Peter 3:5 For this they willingly are ignorant of, that by the word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of the water and in the water:  

Genesis 1:2 And the earth BECAME without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.

2 Peter 3:6 Whereby the world that then was, being overflowed with water, perished: (if it were the flood of Noahs time, Noah would have perished, and most certainly if darkness was upon the face of the deep there weren't any olive trees growing.  And I looked up the word perished no room for wiggle there) 

2 Peter 3:7 But the heavens and the earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men.

[DeighAnn]

3 hours ago, iamlamad said:

2 Corinthians 4:4

In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.

2  Corinthians 4:3 But if our gospel be hid, it is hid to them that are lost:

2  Corinthians 4:4 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.

BECAUSE people BELIEVE in "their" gods.  Little G.  They wittle out "a god" from a piece of wood.  GOD will say "let their god save them".  They can only take what HE has created to make something on their own.  

JUST because MAN CALLS something or someone a "god" doesn't make it or them one.  


….HID TO THEM THAT ARE LOST in whom the god of this world....  they are ignorant of Gods Word, Gods Truth.  

..THE LIGHT OF THE GLORIOUS GOSPEL OF CHRIST IS THE IMAGE OF GOD

[DeighAnn]

3 hours ago, iamlamad said:

In short, I stand by what I said, God is NOT in control of everything on earth.

I completely believe in FREE WILL, GOD allowing the world to progress along those lines and ONLY moving in the lives of the preordained elect because He foreknew them, they have been justified already.  

And yes, I believe the King of Tyre is now the prince of the power of the air.  Kings and Queens and princes are not gods themselves, they are GODS as in He made us, He owns us, we are His, we are Gods possessions.  

So here we 1/2 way agree.  

We weren't speaking of God giving kids cancer, I thought my "tower of siloam" would have made that clear.  

 

[DeighAnn]

3 hours ago, iamlamad said:

GOD USES THE PAST AS EXAMPLES FOR THE FUTURE.  I didn't "sneek" in anything.  

You put a quote about Antiochus from the past with a quote from a future event. I agree, the past can show us examples. I think, if you put two such scriptures together as the past an example of the future, you should state your intention.  otherwise a reader will suppose you think the two fit together and are saying the same thing. 

THE BEAST is a political system.  
Yes, this is true, but the Beast as shown in Rev. 13 is also a MAN, just as the False Prophet is a MAN. And these two MEN will be living in Jerusalem during much of the last half of the 70th week.  Later in the book these two MEN are cast into the lake of fire. How could a "system" be cast into the lake of fire? 

REALLY?  That's not going to be very convincing is it? 
Is it going to be like "Hi, I am christ returned, and I am now going to enslave and KILL people.   WHO is it that will believe him at that point???  Certainly not "the whole world".  

Again, can we just go by what is written? I did not make this up!

Revelation 13:3  And I saw one of his heads as it were wounded to death; and his deadly wound was healed: and all the world wondered after the beast.
4 And they [all the world] worshipped the dragon which gave power unto the beast: and they worshipped the beast, saying, Who is like unto the beast? who is able to make war with him?

⁸ And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.

Make no mistake here: these two, the Beast and False Prophet are going to deceive the ENTIRE WORLD - all except those whose names are written in the Book of life. And they do this from the city of Jerusalem.

OF COURSE they are to be taken literally! Jerusalem will be under siege. Many will be killed as in all wars. Many Jews will be led out of the city as prisoners to be made slaves.  The "woman" is "that great city" and is speaking of the city of Jerusalem.

REALLY?  That's not going to be very convincing is it? 

Is it going to be like "Hi, I am christ returned, and I am now going to enslave and KILL people.   WHO is it that will believe him at that point???  Certainly not "the whole world".  


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Do you see the    "OF COURSE THEY ARE TO BE TAKEN LITERALLY!"   IN THE LAST BLUE BOX  

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REALLY?


THAT IS HOW IT WAS ORIGINALLY POSTED.  THEY WAY IT CAME OUT IN YOUR NEXT POST  (ABOVE) WOULD MAKE IT "APPEAR" QUITE DIFFERENT.  I PRAY IT WAS AN HONEST MISTAKE.  

[DeighAnn]

3 hours ago, iamlamad said:

flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God

This is true, Flesh and blood could not survive in the Kingdom of God in heaven. This is speaking of heaven. Paul is saying that the human body will be changed into a resurrection body before we are escorted into heaven.  Does this verse tell us that no flesh body can be on earth during the Millennial reign of Christ. NO! Certainly not. Paul is talking about heaven.

Where is it Jesus foot touches down?  What happens at that point?

You know as well as I: it is on Mt. Olives and when He touches down an earthquake causes a great valley to be created, which is an escape route for Jews.

So lets say someone is 105 when Christ returns.  Are you saying they will live to be 1120 in a flesh body?  

I think in Isaiah 65, speaking of the Millennial reign, wrote:

20 "Never again will there be in it an infant who lives but a few days, or an old man who does not live out his years; the one who dies at a hundred will be thought a mere child; the one who fails to reach a hundred will be considered accursed.

You should understand, the curse will be lifted off the earth. There will be no more curse. It may well be that someone will live to be a thousand years old.  But if they die, there will surely be another resurrection before the new heaven and earth.

 

Satan and his fallen ones are being cast to the earth. 

CHRIST and His army are coming to the earth. 

The Millennial Kingdom is here on earth. 

God will be coming to the earth. 

The Great Throne Judgment is on the earth.

The lake of fire is on the earth.

The NEW CITY will be coming to the earth. 

Gods favorite place in the universe in here on this earth.  

Heaven is where ever God is.



And the host of heaven....

Isaiah 34:1 Come near, ye nations, to hear; and hearken, ye people: let the earth hear, and all that is therein; the world, and all things that come forth of it  .Isaiah 34:2 For the indignation of the LORD is upon all nations, and his fury upon all their armies: he hath utterly destroyed them, he hath delivered them to the slaughter  .Isaiah 34:3 Their slain also shall be cast out, and their stink shall come up out of their carcases, and the mountains shall be melted with their blood.

Isaiah 34:4 And all the host of heaven shall be dissolved, and the heavens shall be rolled together as a scroll: and all their host shall fall down, as the leaf falleth off from the vine, and as a falling fig from the fig tree.

Isaiah 34:5 For my sword shall be bathed in heaven: behold, it shall come down upon Idumea, and upon the people of my curse, to judgment  .Isaiah 34:6 The sword of the LORD is filled with blood, it is made fat with fatness, and with the blood of lambs and goats, with the fat of the kidneys of rams: for the LORD hath a sacrifice in Bozrah, and a great slaughter in the land of Idumea.  Isaiah 34:7 And the unicorns shall come down with them, and the bullocks with the bulls; and their land shall be soaked with blood, and their dust made fat with fatness.


On your last point, Please give me scripture.  If there is no taking and giving in marriage and we are like the angels, how could there ever be kids?  

 

[The Light]

13 hours ago, DeighAnn said:

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Matthew 23:37 O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, thou that killest the prophets, and stonest them which are sent unto thee, how often would I have gathered thy children together, even as a hen gathereth her chickens under her wings, and ye would not!

Matthew 23:38 Behold, your house is left unto you desolate.

Matthew 23:39 For I say unto you, Ye shall not see me henceforth, till ye shall say, Blessed is he that cometh in the name of the Lord.

Matthew 24:1 And Jesus went out, and departed from the temple: and his disciples came to him for to shew him the buildings of the temple.

Matthew 24:2 And Jesus said unto them, See ye not all these things? verily I say unto you, There shall not be left here one stone upon another, that shall not be thrown down.

Could you give me your thoughts on this interpretation?  That,  that is above refers to the 70AD when the temple was destroyed and FOLLOWING THAT was that question and the question about HIS Return answered.  There are two questions asked and two different events answered.   

I don't think it has anything to do with 70AD and the destruction of the Temple. Their house is desolate because they did not come to accept Jesus as the prophesied Messiah. God was not in their house, so it was left desolate. He would not be seen by them until they came to the realization that He is the Messiah, which happens at the end.

As for the first two verses of Matthew, again there is no talk of 70AD as there is still at this time, one stone upon another. Additionally if you look at Matthew 3 we can see that there are 3 questions asked Tell us, when shall these things be? and what shall be the sign of thy coming, and of the end of the world?

All three questions relate to the same time frame, the end of the age.
 

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Matthew 24:3 And as he sat upon the mount of Olives, the disciples came unto him privately, saying, Tell us, when shall these things be? and what shall be the sign of thy coming, and of the end of the world?

Matthew 24:4 And Jesus answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man deceive you.

Matthew 24:5 For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many.

Matthew 24:6 And ye shall hear of wars and rumours of wars: see that ye be not troubled: for all these things must come to pass, but the end is not yet.

Answers question 1


Answers question 2

Matthew 24:7 For nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom: and there shall be famines, and pestilences, and earthquakes, in divers places.

Matthew 24:8 All these are the beginning of sorrows.

 

These verses and others that follow tell us what is going to happen at the end. If you look at Revelation you will see John describes the same things in the 1st 5 seals. False Christs, war, famine etc. These chapters of Matthew are the 6th seal.

Matt 24

²⁷ For as the lightning cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.

²⁸ For wheresoever the carcase is, there will the eagles be gathered together.

²⁹ Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:

³⁰ And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.

Rev 6

¹² And I beheld when he had opened the sixth seal, and, lo, there was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon became as blood;

¹³ And the stars of heaven fell unto the earth, even as a fig tree casteth her untimely figs, when she is shaken of a mighty wind.

¹⁴ And the heaven departed as a scroll when it is rolled together; and every mountain and island were moved out of their places.

¹⁵ And the kings of the earth, and the great men, and the rich men, and the chief captains, and the mighty men, and every bondman, and every free man, hid themselves in the dens and in the rocks of the mountains;

¹⁶ And said to the mountains and rocks, Fall on us, and hide us from the face of him that sitteth on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb:

It would only make sense that when Jesus gave a description of end times that it would line up with what John said in Revelation.

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I once tried to "overlay" Matt 24, Luke 21 and Mark 13.  As I remember, two of the 3 fit perfectly together, but the 3rd was just off.  I started thinking that the one that didn't quite  fit went with the 70 ad and the other two went with Christs return.  Have you ever heard of this?  Just wondering...

Yes, what you say is correct. The verses of Matthew and Mark line up together. We have false Christ, nations rising, wars, famines etc and it continues on about Jerusalem in the last days. However in Luke, we have false Christ, nations rising, wars, famines etc and then we have this verse:

Luke 21

¹² But before all these, they shall lay their hands on you, and persecute you, delivering you up to the synagogues, and into prisons, being brought before kings and rulers for my name's sake.

In the Gospel of Luke he says BEFORE all these things (false Christ, nations rising, wars, famines etc) and describes what happen in Jerusalem in 70AD.

You will also notice that there are different people and a different location in the Gospels of Matt 24 and Mark 13 as compared to Luke 21.

 

[iamlamad]

2 hours ago, DeighAnn said:

Satan and his fallen ones are being cast to the earth. 

CHRIST and His army are coming to the earth. 

The Millennial Kingdom is here on earth. 

God will be coming to the earth. 

The Great Throne Judgment is on the earth.

The lake of fire is on the earth.

The NEW CITY will be coming to the earth. 

Gods favorite place in the universe in here on this earth.  

Heaven is where ever God is.



And the host of heaven....

Isaiah 34:1 Come near, ye nations, to hear; and hearken, ye people: let the earth hear, and all that is therein; the world, and all things that come forth of it  .Isaiah 34:2 For the indignation of the LORD is upon all nations, and his fury upon all their armies: he hath utterly destroyed them, he hath delivered them to the slaughter  .Isaiah 34:3 Their slain also shall be cast out, and their stink shall come up out of their carcases, and the mountains shall be melted with their blood.

Isaiah 34:4 And all the host of heaven shall be dissolved, and the heavens shall be rolled together as a scroll: and all their host shall fall down, as the leaf falleth off from the vine, and as a falling fig from the fig tree.

Isaiah 34:5 For my sword shall be bathed in heaven: behold, it shall come down upon Idumea, and upon the people of my curse, to judgment  .Isaiah 34:6 The sword of the LORD is filled with blood, it is made fat with fatness, and with the blood of lambs and goats, with the fat of the kidneys of rams: for the LORD hath a sacrifice in Bozrah, and a great slaughter in the land of Idumea.  Isaiah 34:7 And the unicorns shall come down with them, and the bullocks with the bulls; and their land shall be soaked with blood, and their dust made fat with fatness.


On your last point, Please give me scripture.  If there is no taking and giving in marriage and we are like the angels, how could there ever be kids?  

 

Satan and his fallen ones are being cast to the earth.  This is probably referring to a time before earth was created, when Satan rebelled.

CHRIST and His army are coming to the earth.   Yes, at the end of this age. But the church is coming down with Him.

The Millennial Kingdom is here on earth.  Not now! All the events of Rev. 8 through 16 must take place first.

God will be coming to the earth.  YOu mean God the Father? Show us a verse. 

The Great Throne Judgment is on the earth.  No, the earth and heavens are destroyed and "no place was found for them" 

The lake of fire is on the earth.  Who knows? It may be in the center of the earth.

The NEW CITY will be coming to the earth.  Yes, but to the NEW earth.

Gods favorite place in the universe in here on this earth.  

Heaven is where ever God is.

 

Lamad had written: 

You should understand, the curse will be lifted off the earth. There will be no more curse. It may well be that someone will live to be a thousand years old.  But if they die, there will surely be another resurrection before the new heaven and earth.

There is going to be natural people in natural bodies left alive during the 70th week. For example those of the Jews who will flee out into the wilderness - probable to Petra. 

Isaiah speaks of that time: a lamb will lay down by a lion, a child will play with a poison snake and not be hurt. The curse will be lifted.