What Law?

[Yishai]

7 minutes ago, dhchristian said:

For some reason I am reminded of the scene from Kung fu panda when he discovers the secret ingredient in his adopted father's secret ingredient soup is that there is no secret ingredient.  

Hahhaha, lol thats whats up, made me LOL. 

[Alive]

This is not a game.

[Guest Thess]

12 minutes ago, Alive said:

This is not a game.

Life and death.

[Yishai]

 

[Dennis1209]

On 2/16/2020 at 9:00 AM, Light Bearer said:

The reason I like books more is I would hate for something to happen to our Electrical Grid and not be able to access the helps that I have been brought up in and love so much.

Exactly and me too! When my computer gets around to crashing, it takes me at least three solid days doing nothing but reinstalling everything I had on it. 

[Yishai]

Here is just a few verses to from acts to show Paul's Torah observance, so anyone can learn how to better understand, how to read his letters,  as he also taught all of his teachings align with his lifestyle and wanted people to act as he acts and do as he does..

Acts 21:24 “Take, the vow thyself with them, and bear the expense for them, that they may shave Their heads: and all may know that those things, whereof they were informed concerning thee, are nothing; but that thou thyself also walkest orderly, and KEEPEST(TORAH) THE LAW"-HNB  also note: in vs.26 Paul even gave a offering/sacrifice in the Temple, after resurrection, if he had felt something was wrong with this we can rest assured he would not have done it!

Acts 23:6 “But when Saul perceived that one part were Sadducees and the other Pharisees, he cried out in the council, Men and brethren, I am a Pharisee, the son of a Pharisee: of the hope and resurrection of the dead I am called in question. 
8. For the Sadducees say that there is no resurrection, neither Angel, nor spirit: But the Pharisees confess both. 9. And there arose a great cry: and the scribes that were of the Pharisees part arose, and strove, saying, we find no evil in this man:” -HNB
So here we can see Paul openly proclaimed himself as a Pharisee After the resurrection, which is known to be the strictest Torah observer's of all the sects of Judaism, and furthermore the Pharisees could NOT deny this as truth, they seen no evil in him, he was telling the truth.    

Acts 24:14 “But this I confess unto thee, that after the way which they call heresy, so worship I the Elohim of my fathers, believing All things which are written in the law and in the prophets”-HNB 
“But this indeed I acknowledge, that in that same doctrine of which they speak, I do serve the Elohim of my fathers, believing All the things which are written in Torah and in the prophets”-AENT  here we can see that Paul don’t just believe in some parts of Torah but every last bit and every letter of Torah and the prophets, does he believe.
 
Acts 25:8 “Meanwhile Paul maintained, that he had committed no offence, either against the Jewish Torah, or against the temple or against Caesar”-AENT  here the “Jewish Torah” is in contrast with oral law, Paul knew he was in Violation of oral Torah aka the Talmud, but by the Torah from Moses he walked upright, even the accusers can’t deny this fact.
 

[Jayne]

37 minutes ago, Yishai said:

Acts 23:6 “But when Saul perceived that one part were Sadducees and the other Pharisees, he cried out in the council, Men and brethren, I am a Pharisee, the son of a Pharisee: of the hope and resurrection of the dead I am called in question. 

8. For the Sadducees say that there is no resurrection, neither Angel, nor spirit: But the Pharisees confess both. 9. And there arose a great cry: and the scribes that were of the Pharisees part arose, and strove, saying, we find no evil in this man:” -HNB
So here we can see Paul openly proclaimed himself as a Pharisee After the resurrection, which is known to be the strictest Torah observer's of all the sects of Judaism, and furthermore the Pharisees could NOT deny this as truth, they seen no evil in him, he was telling the truth.    

Acts 23:6 - Do you have any idea WHY Paul declared himself a Pharisee in front of the Sanhedrin?  It wasn't to uphold his former life as a Pharisee.  It was to escape from them as they, both Pharisees and Sadducees wanted him dead at that very moment!!!!  He was on trial before them, the chief priest had already had Paul slapped in the face! 

He shouted that he was being persecuted because he was a Pharisee and believed in the resurrection.  [he declared that part of his former life as "dung" in Philippians 3 so how could he be supportive of Pharisees here?]

He wasn't exactly lying - Paul believed in and taught Christ's resurrection and ours in Christ.  The Pharisees held to a different resurrection void of Christ.

But anyway - when he started ranting about being a Pharisee, he knew that there would be a riot and there was.  The Pharisees and Sadducees were polar opposites - like Democrats and Republicans - and with the Sadducees believing any resurrection to be foolish and a lie - the fight began not with Paul anymore, but between themselves.

The Bible says that there was such a riot that the captain of the guard grabbed Paul and took him to safety in the barracks.  That's exactly what Paul intended and hoped for.

Paul was NOT teaching the Pharisaical lifestyle or was he teaching the Law.

He was tricking the Sanhedrin - goading them into fighting each other to slip out the back door so to speak.

I won't address the other three Acts passages that you mishandle.  You've already started a thread announcing every one here at the forum:

•  clinging to traditions and not doctrine
•  lost in the wilderness
•  talking with split tongues
•  having nonsensical doctrines
•  no different than atheists looking to wrong people
•  looking to Bible scholars and pastors [as if that's a bad thing!]
•  not having the Holy Spirit
•  distracted
•  in LaLa land
•  Christians only by tradition
•  looking to man instead of God
•  Pharisees lost in the wilderness

So I guess that includes me, even though you and I have never spoken.

C'est la vie. 

Edited February 17, 2020 by Jayne

[Yishai]

11 minutes ago, Jayne said:

It was to escape from them as they, both Pharisees and Sadducees wanted him dead at that very moment!!!!  He was on trial before them, the chief priest had already had Paul slapped in the face! 

He shouted that he was being persecuted because he was a Pharisee and believed in the resurrection.  [he declared that part of his former life as "dung" in Philippians 3 so how could he be supportive of Pharisees here?]

He wasn't exactly lying

Man what part of the Bible did you get that info..nowhere..Paul would have never broke a command and str8 lied like that, false non biblical doctrine..He was a Pharisee that belived the Jewish Messiah prophecyed of old had came, The Messiah did NOT create a new religion. 

Edited February 17, 2020 by Yishai

[Jayne]

5 minutes ago, Yishai said:

Man what part of the Bible did you get that info..nowhere..Paul would have never broke a command and str8 lied like that, false non biblical doctrine..He was a Pharisee that belived the Jewish Messiah prophecyed of old had came, The Messiah did NOT create a new religion. 

Where did I get this?

From Acts 23:1-11.  I urge you to read it and read it slowly.  Paul was not boasting nor defending being a Pharisee.  Please, read this passage.  He was looking for an escape from being sentenced to death or even lynched.  And he found one according to the passage and he escaped the Sanhedrin.

Yes, Paul HAD BEEN a Pharisee as a younger man.  But according to Philippians 3 [which I suggest you read], he counted that along with everything else - rubbish.

Paul did not lie.  He believe in the resurrection.  He just did not believe in the same resurrection that the Pharisees believed in which was void of Christ.

Whose talking of Jesus creating a new religion that has nothing to do with the Old Testament?  I wasn't.

[Heleadethme]

18 hours ago, Yishai said:

I believe it is our flesh now, at like 97% surety. Haha and I dont feel I should go any deeper than that publicly yet, because once you really observe creation its SOO HUGE, no human can fully understand it fully. And I honestly believe that as well.. 

Oh yeah!....I can see that as a possibility, praise the Lord, thanks.