What Law?

[JTC]

In Matt. 5:14-17 the light Jesus is speaking of means our Godly behavior that Jesus expects us to do in front of the world.

[Alive]

John 8:12   Then Jesus spoke to them again, saying, “I am the light of the world. He who follows Me shall not walk in darkness, but have the light of life.”

John 9:5 As long as I am in the world, I am the light of the world.”

John 1:4 In Him was life, and the life was the light of men.

John 1:9 That was the true Light which gives light to every man coming into the world.

John 3:19 And this is the condemnation, that the light has come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil.

John 12:35   Then Jesus said to them, “A little while longer the light is with you. Walk while you have the light, lest darkness overtake you; he who walks in darkness does not know where he is going. ³⁶ While you have the light, believe in the light, that you may become sons of light.” These things Jesus spoke, and departed, and was hidden from them.

John 1:8 He was not that Light, but was sent to bear witness of that Light.

[Light Bearer]

6 minutes ago, Neighbor said:

And Jesus is found from Genesis to Revelation. He speaks not in ignorance of the Bible He read, studied, and quoted, the only reference he spoke of to man.

ps- To find the context one needs to read the Old Testament not illiminate it.

That is obvious to you, me and others.

What is trying to be avoided is dancing through the NT to dispel the teachings of Jesus in the context of Matt.

 

So please within the context of the passage answer the questions. I am interested in what you might see.

[Neighbor]

15 minutes ago, Light Bearer said:

So please within the context of the passage answer the questions. I am interested in what you might see.

What I see  is an attempt to isolate a partial passage from even it's near context. Which declares you ( Jesus' audience)  are the salt and the light. And as such are to be seen glorifying God. Just as Jesus who is God glorifies His Father, not by destroying the law nor the prophets but  in His fulfilling both.

Jesus further declares not one jot nor tittle shall pass from the law till all ( prophesy) be fulfilled. 

And that is from only the near context of what Matthew reports  of what Jesus had spoken at the sermon on the mount to mostly individuals that had great knowledge of the Bible( The Old testament)  and where looking foe the Messiah. When Jesus spoke they were very well aware of what he was referencing from the old testament about Himself, plus what they were to be doing in sharing of his gospel.

[Alive]

Jesus came to both shed additional light on the 'principle' of law and to become the goal of the law.

We must always remember the context and the hearers. He was teaching them that although the law could not be kept perfectly--they were under the law because of Moses and their collective loyalty to Moses. He knew they didn't understand it at the time, but He was pointing to Himself as it's fulfillment.

He knew that ones would later understand, as the Holy Spirit explained it.

The Law shed light--Jesus was the Light.

[Dennis1209]

1 hour ago, Light Bearer said:

I  wondered why the software programmers did that to the BDB Hebrew Lexicon. It is the same way in the free "theword" bible program and "esword". The actual entry in the book looks nothing like that. For one "light bearer" is nowhere mentioned. I have the book. I wish I could display the entry here so everyone could see it. Nonetheless there are other entries in that link that are more fitting in my view. I tried to copy the entries to post them here but to no avail.

 

As was mentioned above I do have free Bible help programs on my computer though, that have BDB, Strong's BDAG, Thayer.... to name a few on it, that enable me to share the entries.

Here is Mickelson's enhanced Strong's entry. I will post it here since I see it as the most informative of what I have available to copy and paste.

H1966 הֵילֵל heylel (hay-lale') n-m.
1. something or someone of radiant splendor.
2. (epithet of praise) Radiantly Splendid One.
3. (epithet of rebuke) Boastful One of Radiant Splendor (i.e. as spoken only by Yahweh to the King of Babylon).
4. (in Septuagint, of rebuke) Ἑωσ•φόρος , HeosPhoros, as a placeholder for this Hebrew word, meaning, one carrying it as far as (one can), or carrying it too far (as boastful).
5. (also, astronomically) Ἑωσ•φόρος , HeosPhoros, in a culturally oblique reference to Venus, which can carry its radiance only so far (at dawn and at twilight).
6. (hence, inappropriately reused of time) ἑωσ•φόρος , HeosPhoros, an alternate Septuagint reference to twilight or dawn as the “morning star” (thus causing misconceptions in later translations deriving from the Septuagint, i.e. Latin Vulgate, etc).
7. (positively, in Greek) this Hebrew word could also have been translated as λαμπροσ•φόρος , LamprosPhoros in a positive sense, Bearer of Radiance.
8. (in Latin, mistaken from Greek) φωσ•φόρος , Light Bearer, due to culturally oblique reference to Venus (i.e. as a deity or as an angelic morning-star created to proclaim and celebrate God's glory).
9. (reversal, transliteration from late Latin) LuciFer, as the (fallen) arch-angel.
10. (Note) (Jesus, the Creator, has reclaimed and consolidated any such prior angelic post of Light Bearer in himself).

 

As to how I came to pick light bearer as a screen name

It having been made plain that you are Christ's letter, served by us, not having been inscribed by ink, but by the Spirit of the living God, not in tablets of stone, but in fleshly tablets of the heart. And we have such confidence through Christ toward God; Not that we are sufficient of ourselves to think any thing as of ourselves; but our sufficiency is of God; Who also hath made us able ministers of the new testament; not of the letter, but of the spirit: for the letter killeth, but the spirit giveth life. But if the ministration of death, written and engraven in stones, was glorious, so that the children of Israel could not stedfastly behold the face of Moses for the glory of his countenance; which glory was to be done away: How shall not the ministration (through us the able ministers) of the spirit be rather glorious? For if the ministration of condemnation be glory, much more doth the ministration of righteousness exceed in glory. For ye were sometimes darkness, but now are ye light in the Lord: walk as children of light: That ye may be blameless and harmless, the sons of God, without rebuke, in the midst of a crooked and perverse nation, among whom ye shine as lights in the world; Let your light so shine before men, that they may see your good works, and glorify your Father which is in heaven.
(2Co 3:3-9; Eph 5:8; Php 2:15;Mat 5:16)
 

Morning there LB,

Noticed the "free" programs you mentioned you use. Not a thing wrong with them and they're great, have them myself. I've discovered the old adage, "you get what you paid for". I wanted to dig deep into the Bible and learn, using one main program to do a lot of it if possible. I purchased the program 'SwordSearcher' for about $60.00. I've had and used it for a couple of years now; best sixty bucks I've ever spent. 

I'd really like to get the ultimate program 'LOGOS', but for about $1,000.00 I need to think hard about that one. They will negotiate the price with you though. Thought I'd relay a tool I use that is very helpful and makes best use of my study time. 

[Light Bearer]

8 minutes ago, Neighbor said:

What I see  is an attempt to isolate a partial passage from even it's near context.

That is not the case. Take care.

[Neighbor]

20 minutes ago, Light Bearer said:

What is trying to be avoided is dancing through the NT to dispel the teachings of Jesus in the context of Matt.

 

Why? Cannot that be overcome? Is not the word of God consistent? if a conclusion formed about an immediate verse cannot hold up to review and comparison to greater context or the entirety of the word of God ,isn't the conclusion reached  by the reading of the verse alone or it's immediate passage only in isolation from the rest of God's word then greatly suspect?

[BibleStudent100]

15 hours ago, Light Bearer said:

Good afternoon everyone. What, if the Gospel of Matthew was all we had. What could be ascertained in regards to the Law that Jesus is speaking about in Matt 5:17. Bear with me please. Let's start in verse 14. The Subject of 14 through 17 is light. That does not change until verse 18. Then the subject changes to Heaven. But only briefly.

So what does our Savior tell us about light? What is it and what is it's purpose?

Light, can we go back one verse and start with 13 of Matthew 5 to get the context?  

(Matthew 5:13-16): 13 “You are the salt of the earth, but if the salt loses its strength, how will its saltiness be restored? It is no longer usable for anything except to be thrown outside to be trampled on by men. 14 “You are the light of the world. A city cannot be hid when located on a mountain. 15 People light a lamp and set it, not under a basket, but on the lampstand, and it shines on all those in the house. 16 Likewise, let your light shine before men, so that they may see your fine works and give glory to your Father who is in the heavens.

Salt cannot preserve food if it is not mixed with an edible product; in a similar manner, a lamp cannot get rid of darkness from a room if the lamp is kept away from that room. As a result,  Jesus never commanded his disciples to move to an isolated corner of the earth to establish communities of believers; nor did he encourage his followers to live insulated lives behind the walls of religious institutions. Instead, as salt needs to touch food and light needs to dispel darkness, so Christians need to have an impact on the lives of others and the way we do this is through our ministering work in the communities in which we live.

[Guest Thess]

31 minutes ago, Alive said:

John 8:12   Then Jesus spoke to them again, saying, “I am the light of the world. He who follows Me shall not walk in darkness, but have the light of life.”

John 9:5 As long as I am in the world, I am the light of the world.”

John 1:4 In Him was life, and the life was the light of men.

John 1:9 That was the true Light which gives light to every man coming into the world.

John 3:19 And this is the condemnation, that the light has come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil.

John 12:35   Then Jesus said to them, “A little while longer the light is with you. Walk while you have the light, lest darkness overtake you; he who walks in darkness does not know where he is going. ³⁶ While you have the light, believe in the light, that you may become sons of light.” These things Jesus spoke, and departed, and was hidden from them.

John 1:8 He was not that Light, but was sent to bear witness of that Light.

The OP said to keep it to the book of Matthew.

Edited February 16, 2020 by Thess