Falling away or Apostasia.

[Justin Adams]

"Finally, a Palestinian 'Charity' Tells The Truth" By Debbie Schlussel

"A Gaza charity headed by the interior minister of Hamas yesterday offered $1.4 million to any Arab citizen of Israel who abducts an Israeli soldier."

On one tree are those of us that support the Jews sovereign control over Israel and Jerusalem, that is fruited by majorities of Israeli non-Muslim Arabs, Israeli Jews and Israeli Christians, the vast majorities of whom were born there. Also supporting the Israelis in their struggle to simply be left alone to live in peace, while continuing to protect the freedom, liberty and right to self-determination of all Israeli citizens, are freedom loving people from around the world, including millions of evangelical Christians that also recognize the bible as having prophesied the - now stunning reality - of the restoration of Jews to their land.

On the other tree are those that reject the restoration of Jews to Israel as being of the Lord, that is fruited by preterists and partial-preterists and the other self-described Christians listed previously. They are joined by the vast majority of Israeli Muslims and at least one minor cult of Israeli Jews, Nazis, skinheads, Louis Farrakan and the Nation of Islam, white supremacists, Soviets, George Soros and his Center for American Progress, and anti-Semites of all stripes. None of whom would ever tolerate having bomb carrying rockets randomly fired into their neighborhoods (and as easily onto their schools), for two days, let alone two years, without expecting their government do something about it. In addition to members of those self-described Christian groups listed previously who considered divestment of Israeli assets are U.S. liberal academics, and the "Palestinian" NGO "Boycott, Divestment and Sanctions", that was preceded by The Arab League boycott of Israel, which started in 1921 and was formalized in 1945.

As we witness around the world, wherever God is rejected, Satan fills the void. Examples are communist countries, and, as the Christian faith continues to die in Europe, we witness Islam continuing to fill the void. Antichrist Islamic expansion is taking place in most countries in the world today. The obvious heir apparent in any further conquest of Israel, perpetrated with the aid of those from around the world that pit themselves against the Jewish state:

"Christians can only continue living safely in the Gaza Strip if they accept Islamic law, including a ban on alcohol and on women roaming publicly without proper head coverings, an Islamist militant leader in Gaza told WND in an exclusive interview."

"The militant leader said Christians in Gaza who engage in "missionary activity" will be "dealt with harshly.""

Satan obviously filled the void in Gaza that anti-Israel powers left behind, by removing the Jewish state and thus preventing Jews from being able to continue to protect the freedom, liberty and self-determination of the Israeli Christians that live there. No different even for secular non-Muslim Arabs. From Wikipedia:

"In contrast, a poll of 507 Arab-Israelis conducted by the Israeli Democracy Institute in 2007 found that 75 percent profess support for Israel's status as a Jewish and democratic state which guarantees equal rights for minorities. Israeli Arab support for a constitution in general was 88 percent.[31]"

Thus the ONLY group anti-Zionism supports are the Muslims in their conquest and subjugation of Israeli Jews, Arabs and Christians, advancing the conversion of Israel into just another female circumcising, multiple wife and concubine beating, child doing, Christian beheading, Islamic terrorist slave state. Just another stepping stone in the global conquest of the Islamic Second Jihad.

Nor can the overwhelming majority of preterists I have chatted with discern any difference at all between the spiritual condition of those Jews who love and worship our God YHWH through our Old Testament scriptures and simply wish to be left alone to live in peace, and the spiritual condition of Muslims that follow the stand-alone false prophet Muhammad by prostrating themselves toward the Quraish pagan's black stone idol in Mecca five times a day and praying in the names of the Arabian pagan deity "Allah" and his "messenger", while engaging in thinly veneered Arabian Star Family and jinn-devil worship rituals, who are commanded by the false prophet Muhammad to conquer all kingdoms of the world and subjugate all people to doing the same.

Some preterists seem to believe that the world needs to be prepared for the return of Christ, with everyone sitting around campfires singing kum-by-yah, but the direction of the world continues to march is the direction one would expect fallen man to take it.

Here's some excerpts from the site of the Gatestone Institute (which may be a more secular organization):

"Muslims in Europe are increasingly converting empty Christian churches into mosques.

The proliferation of mosques housed in former churches reflects the rise of Islam as the fastest growing religion in post-Christian Europe.

There are now more practicing Muslims than practicing Christians in many parts of Europe, not only in large urban centers, but also in smaller towns and cities across the continent.

As Islam replaces Christianity as the dominant religion in Europe, more and more churches are set to become mosques, which increasingly serve not only as religious institutions but also function as the foundational political building blocks for the establishment of separate, parallel Muslim communities in Europe that are based on Islamic Sharia law.

Continue the article at this link.

More on the apostasizing "church" on the page dedicated to that subject at this link.

https://www.christianeschatology.com/partial_preterism.htm

[Marilyn C]

10 hours ago, Justin Adams said:

 

As Islam replaces Christianity as the dominant religion in Europe, more and more churches are set to become mosques, which increasingly serve not only as religious institutions but also function as the foundational political building blocks for the establishment of separate, parallel Muslim communities in Europe that are based on Islamic Sharia law.

Continue the article at this link.

More on the apostasizing "church" on the page dedicated to that subject at this link.

https://www.christianeschatology.com/partial_preterism.htm

Hi Justin,

I think you are referring to the `church` as man`s organisations. The true Church is made up of believers in house groups, in 2`s and 3`s, all across the world and down through the centuries. Jesus the Head is doing a wonderful work of building and maturing His Body.

[Justin Adams]

10 hours ago, Marilyn C said:

as man`s organisations

Problem is, the few really bad apples are funded by much of the church without realizing it. Read the full article to see if any of your money goes to these organizations..? See just who is a signatory to the anti-Israeli movements world wide. We might be surprised. No one is immune from error...

We must not be smug.

Edited February 27, 2020 by Justin Adams

[Jostler]

wow....a 1.4 million dollar bounty from a "charity" that could relieve a lot of suffering for average Palestinians.  Kinda poignant view of where their priorities are....

[Dennis1209]

17 hours ago, Marilyn C said:

Hi Justin,

I think you are referring to the `church` as man`s organisations. The true Church is made up of believers in house groups, in 2`s and 3`s, all across the world and down through the centuries. Jesus the Head is doing a wonderful work of building and maturing His Body.

There's just so much that could be discussed on this issue, just some of my thoughts.

Everything from the root of the problem; that Esau actually received the blessing and inheritance instead of Jacob [Israel], as the Arabs & Muslim's do believe. To the false theology established by the RCC in the fourth century; that the Jew's forfeited the promises of God when they murdered Jesus, and the church inherited them [replacement theology]. 

The Vatican is anti semitic to the core, and support and fund Palestinian causes. I believe to date, they have about 1/3 of control and interests in Jerusalem? Non revisionist history shows what the Pope / Vatican did and didn't do for the Jew's during the Holocaust as a recent historical example.

We as Christian's are to pray for the peace of Israel, support them and bless them.

Genesis 12:3 (KJV) And I will bless them that bless thee, and curse him that curseth thee: and in thee shall all families of the earth be blessed.

Edited February 27, 2020 by Dennis1209

[Last Daze]

46 minutes ago, Dennis1209 said:

Genesis 12:3 (KJV) And I will bless them that bless thee, and curse him that curseth thee: and in thee shall all families of the earth be blessed.

Not to muddy the waters, but that promise was given to Abram.

[Justin Adams]

1 minute ago, Last Daze said:

Not to muddy the waters, but that promise was given to Abram.

Yes, and as Abraham's seed as the apostle says, it includes us.

[Marilyn C]

12 hours ago, Justin Adams said:

Problem is, the few really bad apples are funded by much of the church without realizing it. Read the full article to see if any of your money goes to these organizations..? See just who is a signatory to the anti-Israeli movements world wide. We might be surprised. No one is immune from error...

We must not be smug.

Hi Justin,

Than you for the warning. Now I know exactly where our, (hubby and I) money goes, for we help individuals, and a local group helping drug etc addicts. (Teen Challenge). 

[Dennis1209]

5 hours ago, Last Daze said:

Not to muddy the waters, but that promise was given to Abram.

Your point?

[Last Daze]

19 minutes ago, Dennis1209 said:

Your point?

Clarification.

6 hours ago, Dennis1209 said:

We as Christian's are to pray for the peace of Israel, support them and bless them.

Genesis 12:3 (KJV) And I will bless them that bless thee, and curse him that curseth thee: and in thee shall all families of the earth be blessed.

It appeared that you used it in the context of support of Israel.  I pointed out that God made that promise to Abram.  Problem?  If you're going to extend it to one of Abram's offspring, why not all of them?