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Posted
4 hours ago, not an echo said:

Well, I think I am picking up on what you are getting at Diaste.  At first, I was feeling like I had entered the Twilight Zone with all this negativism I have encountered over my saying "my view" and other things that I am given to saying.  It has seemed like nit-picking.  I even thought that perhaps there had been a big controversy on the forum about saying things like that, something that had I known, I might understand.  If it has been, if you can remember the thread, let me know.  At least then, I won't be so blindsided!

I hope it does not seem over redundant that I once again express why I say some things like I do.  When it comes to Bible study, and especially prophecy, I don't know how many times that I have caught a word, or been drawn to a word, (or a phrase or a verse or a passage!) that I hadn't really noted before, even after having read it many, many times.  And, there are many, many words (and phrases and verses and passages!) in the Bible.  There have been times when even a word might change my perspective some, which in turn would affect my view (oops).  If similar happens to everyone else, it's easy to see why there are so many differing views or thoughts. 

I love examples.  Oft times I think of them as parables!  You know, Jesus never has quit speaking in parables!  Remember the total solar eclipse of August 21, 2017.  Naw, I didn't remember the year, much less the date!  I just happen to be wearing a souvenir tee of the event, as a night shirt.  Annnyway, crowds came to my neck of the woods to see the eclipse.  They got the word that if they came to the area of the U.S.A. where I hail from, they would get to have the best view.  Now, people throughout the U.S.A. got to see the sun that day, but they didn't all get the same view.  And, there were some criteria involved in getting the best view.  Hey, where I was---from my perspective---from my point of view---it got dark for almost five minutes, the air chilled, and a rooster crowed!!!  It was something!       

My experience has been that it is much the same with Bible study.  With that eclipse, there was a fine line (relatively speaking) across the U.S.A. where that "seeing" the total eclipse was possible.  Either side of that line, it was not possible---not the best view.  In God's providence, my home was on that line.  I was living on that line.  I may never be again, but I was that day.  Diaste, I believe I remember you saying something about you seeing things differently today than you used to.  Did it have anything to do with a change of perspective?  Did it have anything to do with where (or how) you were living.  Has a change in perspective, or something that God has spoken to your heart, ever affected your view.  Do you have a view?  

I have sometimes failed here, but I try to avoid criticizing another person's view in a critical way.  I try to give everyone the benefit of the doubt that they are endeavoring to see the best they can from where they are, all the while realizing that some aren't even close to where they need to be.  I've been there, too.  I know it has took a lot for me to see what I see.  Kinda like looking at something through a telescope (which I also did during the eclipse!) and trying to adjust the knob so that the focus is really sharp.  Concerning hearing God's voice, I'm constantly working on my tuner...but that's another parable. :)  

Finally, Diaste, I DO KNOW that I have heard God's voice on some things.  If I am understanding you correctly, it is preferred on the boards for those who believe something to be the truth, to express it as such.  I'm thinking, like an attorney making a case and then letting the jury decide.  If what I have expressed here and prior will suffice for a forum statement that I humbly realize that I may be wrong, then I'm fine with that---and you can even be my witness!  I'm ready to go forward with what God has spoke to my heart---and to express it accordingly.  Though we may disagree some, if we keep the right spirit, Christ, by His Holy Spirit, will reward our efforts.

Revelation Man, if you happen to read the above, I thought of you too, while I was responding to Diaste.  Got to go.  The Spirit of Christ just called my attention to Ephesians 4:11-16.  Thank You Lord...

I get that. It's not taboo. Take the different doctrines on the gathering for instance. Which is correct? It seems there is only one gathering at the return of Jesus. If that's the case then not all the 'views' can be correct can they?

Even if there are two gatherings as some say, pretrib and prewrath, that leaves two doctrines, midtrib and posttrib. All these doctrines feel they are correct. They have views on how it's going to go. If there is only one gathering then only one 'view' is correct. Why do we say, "My view."? Is it safe? Are we hedging?

I did change. But it was the difference between authors of book touting a doctrine and searching the scriptures for that doctrine. I did not find what the several authors had claimed existed in the Word. Therefore the Word of God stood apart from the book sellers. I want the perspective of the scriptures and the Truth and not that of doctrines of men. 

Honestly that's all we have, the written Word of God. If that's truth then all other things we may hear must be judged by the scriptures, even if we feel personally convinced.

So my 'view' did change from believing man's doctrine to that of allowing the Word to teach me. That's not the same as going from pretrib doctrine to midtrib. 

Since the scriptures are the Word of the living God they take precedence over all other doctrine. We should be saying, "As it is written." or "The scriptures say..."

Of course I allow for personal thoughts and ideas. Those are good and right. But should we be amending the Word of God to fit personal choice or should that personal view of scripture be amended to fit the written Word? 

So again, the rapture doctrines, they can't all be right just because one feels they like one or the other. 

 


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Posted
15 minutes ago, Michael37 said:

I think what you are probably saying is that what causes gravity is not fully understood. We prove gravity exists by not being weightless.

I don't want any division in this. Let's just march onward under the banner of the Lord and the rest will sort itself out. :emot-handshake:


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10 hours ago, Diaste said:

I don't want any division in this. Let's just march onward under the banner of the Lord and the rest will sort itself out. :emot-handshake:

2 Cor 4:17
For our light affliction, which is but for a moment, works for us a far more exceeding and eternal weight of glory;


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Posted (edited)

...knowing this first, that no prophecy of Scripture is of any private interpretation, for prophecy never came by the will of man, but holy men of God spoke as they were moved by the Holy Spirit.

But there were also false prophets among the people, even as there will be false teachers among you, who will secretly bring in destructive heresies, even denying the Lord who bought them, and bring on themselves swift destruction. And many will follow their destructive ways, because of whom the way of truth will be blasphemed. By covetousness they will exploit you with deceptive words; for a long time their judgment has not been idle, and their destruction does not slumber.

 

They are spots and blemishes, carousing in their own deceptions while they feast with you, having eyes full of adultery and that cannot cease from sin, enticing unstable souls. They have a heart trained in covetous practices, and are accursed children. They have forsaken the right way and gone astray, 

These are wells without water, clouds carried by a tempest, for whom is reserved the blackness of darkness forever.

For when they speak great swelling words of emptiness, they allure through the lusts of the flesh, through lewdness, the ones who have actually escaped from those who live in error. While they promise them liberty, they themselves are slaves of corruption;

For the time has come for judgment to begin at the house of God; and if it begins with us first, what will be the end of those who do not obey the gospel of God?

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Posted (edited)

Hello all,

I have been encouraged to give a chart showing how I am seeing things.  Following is a chart I have developed to illustrate what I consider to be the basics of the timing of the rapture, relative to other events.  It is based upon the Seven Sealed Book of The Revelation and is from the perspective of the Cross, the era of the Church (here shown as the Church Age), the Day of the Lord, and Eternity:

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In harmony with the first three verses of The Revelation, the testimony of history, and more, the first four seals were opened as early as late in the first century (post-apostolic/Rev. 1:1-3 with the "hereafter" of 1:19 and 4:1).  This means that the activities of Satan, exercised by his henchmen, the four horsemen, have been forces to be reckoned with by the Church since the days of the apostles.  Hence, the first four seals are shown to be open early in the era of the Church, or Church Age.

Like unto a major battle, many in our ranks have suffered and died as martyrs.  At the opening of the 5th Seal, John receives a vision of the cry of these martyrs for justice.  Because their question, "How long?" (Rev. 6:10) reflects that a significant period of time has transpired, and because they are assured that it will be yet "a little season" before their blood is avenged, this fits this seal being opened nearer the end of the Church Age, closer to the time of the rapture.  As we do not know when the rapture may occur, this seal may already be open as well...and I believe that it is.  The martyrs are informed that during the "little season,"  more will be killed "as they were" (Rev. 6:11).  This is certainly in tune with Daniel's 70th Week (a little season) and what will happen to the two witnesses, the 144,000, and those who refuse allegiance to the Antichrist.

Though we do not know how much longer the era of the Church will continue, we know that it will end with the rapture, which is shown to occur after the opening of the 6th Seal (Rev. 6:12-7:17, Matt. 24:29-31ff, I Thess. 4:13-5:11, II Thess. 2:1).  Therefore, as Christ's coming for the rapture is imminent, so is the Lamb's opening of this seal.  I can almost envision the Lord, upon opening this seal, coming for His Bride!  When He does, He will "descend from Heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God:  and the dead in Christ shall rise first:  Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air."  This will take place "in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye."  Concurrent with this, the signs heralding the Day of the Lord will be seen, in accord with Joel's prophecy:  "The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before the great and the terrible Day of the LORD come" (Joel 2:31).  These signs could be said to occur in the wake of the resurrection and the rapture of the Church.  Note that this is further reinforced by Peter's appeal to this prophecy on the Day of Pentecost (Acts 2:16-21).  When Joel's prophecy is understood to also point to the Church era or age, it is remarkable that he prophesied of things that would mark the very day of both the commencement and the conclusion of this age.  Talk about precision---Thank you Joel!  Also, at this same time, the bottom is going to drop out of things in this world, to the tune of the rest of John's account of the 6th Seal and what follows.

It is not until the 7th Seal is opened that the Seven Sealed Book can actually unfold.  Because of the absence of any mention of a time frame, this opening of the 7th Seal can occur the same day that the Church is gathered to glory and the 144,000 Jews are sealed.  After this last seal is opened, John writes, "there was silence in Heaven about the space of half an hour" (Rev. 8:1).  Try to imagine the drama and suspense of this book being now ready to unfold.

It easily fits that everything within the covers of the Seven Sealed Book pertains to the period of the Day of the Lord, hence, THE DAY OF THE LORD would be a fitting title for this book.  On the same day as the rapture---which begins the Day of the Lord---John sees seven angels that are given seven trumpets and what occurs after each trumpet is sounded.  The first six trumpets relate to preparations---a world stage reset, if you will---for the fulfilling of Daniel's 70th Week.  During the time frame of the 6th Trumpet (Rev. 9:13-11:14), after the interlude concerning the "little book open" (Rev. 10/DANIEL!/Dan. 12:4, 8-10), we find the first evidences of Daniel's 70th Week having actually begun (Rev. 11:1-3).  Finally, the 7th Trumpet (Rev. 11:14-19ff) heralds a period that takes in the remainder of Daniel's 70th Week and continues through the Last Judgment (Rev. 20:11-15).  The highlight of this period will be Christ's Second Advent, the Battle of Armageddon, and Christ's Millennial Reign.  After the Last Judgment, time, as we now know it, will end, and eternity, as we will know it, will begin.  From another angle, the period of the Day of the Lord will bring to an end this world and time as we know it, after which, we will enter eternity.  Revelation 21 begins John's account of that and what it will hold for God's children.  As I'm thinking about what John saw at this time, my mind goes to that song by the Hoppers---Jerusalem.  I just love that song!  I'm going to listen to it now...

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Quote of missmuffet from page 1, post 10:  "The first trumpet sounds in Revelation 8. The born again believers will be gone in the rapture."

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Hello missmuffet,

Well, I just referred to this thread in a reply I made to Revelation Man and I thought I would come back and look at it again.  It was my first thread ever on Worthy Christian Forums!  As I was looking, I saw where you had made the above statement.  I guess somewhere along the line I missed it, but, I certainly agree!

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Keep in mind, Israel will be attacked by all nations or at least ten Islamic nations surrounding her. The Middle East/Africa which is comprised of many Islamic nations most likely will be the 1/3 of the earth on fire. 1/3 literally would be if you starte in Jerusalem and drew a radius of 4,000 mile circle around Jerusalem. Jerusalem always has been the center of action in scripture.

A remnant Jewish population will be saved (Rom.11)

JESUS SECOND COMING is to Jerusalem, He stands on the Mr. if Olives and it splits in two. Then He judges all nations who come against Jerusalem. I could give many scriptural references, but you should know this.


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On 2/29/2020 at 12:34 PM, not an echo said:

With the United States having held such a prominent place in history and upon the earth, it has understandably been wondered, "Where is it in Bible prophecy?"  Well, I believe it is there, but not so easily seen.  Consider from Revelation chapter eight:

  1   And when He had opened the seventh seal, there was silence in heaven about the space of half an hour.

  2   And I saw the seven angels which stood before God;  and to them were given seven trumpets.

Then, beginning a little further in John's account, we find what happens after the sounding of the first four trumpets

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  7   The first angel sounded, and there followed hail and fire mingled with blood, and they were cast upon the earth:  and the third part of trees was burnt up, and all green grass was burnt up.

  8   And the second angel sounded, and as it were a great mountain burning with fire was cast into the sea:  and the third part of the sea became blood;

  9   And the third part of the creatures which were in the sea, and had life, died;  and the third part of the ships were destroyed.

 10  And the third angel sounded, and there fell a great star from heaven, burning as it were a lamp, and it fell upon the third part of the rivers, and upon the fountains of waters;

 11  And the name of the star is called Wormwood:  and the third part of the waters became wormwood;  and many men died of the waters, because they were made bitter.

 12  And the fourth angel sounded, and the third part of the sun was smitten, and the third part of the moon, and the third part of the stars;  so as the third part of them was darkened, and the day shone not for a third part of it, and the night likewise.  

A few years ago, while reading about the first four trumpets and the one-third judgments, my mind went to something that I had always noticed as a kid.  I had always loved globes, and when I would consider the United States' side of the earth in comparison to the opposite side of the earth (for me at that time, China's side of the earth!), I would always note that geographically, what was on our side (our Western Hemisphere) was about 1/3 of the earth, while what was on the other side (the Eastern Hemisphere), was about 2/3's of the earth.  Now, many years later and with a sudden curiosity, I found myself looking at Wikepedia to see what the land areas of the seven continents were.  I made an interesting discovery.  If you give 1/2 of the land area of Antarctica to each hemisphere (I felt this was only fair), the land area of the hemisphere of which the United States is a part (the Americas) represents one-third of the earth to within less than one  percentage point!

Needless to say, the wheels of my mind really began to turn now.  Consider further:  What if the nature of the destruction relating to the "third part" of the earth during the sounding of the first four trumpets is concentrated rather than cumulative?  I thought, "Well, either possibility would be equally as valid."  Only thing is, I had never heard a hint from anyone that this (a concentrated destruction) might be a possibility---and I still haven't.

Question:  Could it be that what John beheld at this time was the destruction of what is in our Western Hemisphere?  If so, John was pretty sharp on them fractions!  Also, an asteroid big enough to effect this would be prevented by the earth's mass from having the same effect on the earth's opposite side.  And, it goes without saying that God gets to choose His asteroid, it's speed, it's angle of impact...evvverything!  Sooo, if so, what could possibly be God's reason for doing this???  Well, if what is on our side of the earth is taken out of the picture with the sounding of the first four trumpets, this would lend to the focus being brought to bear upon THE BIBLE LANDS---ONCE AGAIN---FOR THE TIME OF DANIEL'S 70TH WEEK.  Kinda like a STAGE RESET, if you will.  Pretty good prophetic reason, as I see it.

In consideration of the earth-wide cataclysm that happens with the opening of the 6th Seal, the above shapes up to be a hemisphere-specific cataclysm (the impact of Wormwood would certainly be hemisphere-specific!), all for the purpose of resetting the world's stage so that for Daniel's 70th Week, things may become much like they were for the first 69 Weeks---when nothing was known of the Western Hemisphere.

One more thing for now---If all of the remaining population of the world at the time of Christ's Second Coming is in Israel's hemisphere (now that I've grown up, I'm thinking Israel's instead of China's!), this would take the mystery away from how "every eye" will be able to simultaneously behold Christ (in Person!) at His Second Coming.  Just as the sun is visible to everyone in our hemisphere when it is high in the sky over the United States, so will it be for THE SON when He returns high in the sky over the land of Israel at His Second Coming.  Has anyone else out there ever seen or thought about this

Since I just answered something close to this over on Quora today I will just copy & paste it here. The QUESTION WAS: 

Have any of the seals been broken and plagues from the Book of Revelation unleashed yet?

No, the book of Revelation is as described, Rev. 1 Jesus is seen in all his Glory (The things which you have seen). In Rev. 2 and 3 we see the Church Age and all the promises the overcomers were promised, REMEMBER THIS. ( The things which are) and finally, we see in Rev. 4:1 the Rapture, thus in Rev. 4–22 we see the things that will be (HEREAFTER).

In Rev. 4:4 we see the 24 Elders {see 1 Chronicle 24, the 24 orders of Priests} have the very things the overcomers in Rev. 2 and 3 {Bride} were promised if the overcame. We see they sit on THRONES, they have CROWNS and they have on ROBES.

Rev. 2:10 Fear none of those things which thou shalt suffer: behold, the devil shall cast some of you into prison, that ye may be tried; and ye shall have tribulation ten days: be thou faithful unto death, and I will give thee a crown of life.

Rev. 3:5 He that overcometh, the same shall be clothed in white raiment; and I will not blot out his name out of the book of life, but I will confess his name before my Father, and before his angels.

Rev. 3:21 To him that overcometh will I grant to sit with me in my throne, even as I also overcame, and am set down with my Father in his throne.

So, I hate posting scriptures like this in full, but this is SO IMPORTANT that you understand that these are not just coincidences, this is The Church in Heaven, BEFORE the Seals, are broken by Jesus. All of those things shown in Rev. 4 are PROMISED to the overcoming Church if they are faithful unto death. The 24 Elder lingo comes from 1 Chronicle 24, its the 24 orders of Priests, and we are said in Revelation 5:9–10 to be Kings and Priests in Christ.

So, we are seen in Heaven in Rev. 4:4, which I will post below along with Rev. 5:9–10, and we are seen in Rev. 4:4 to sit on THRONES, we are seen to have CROWNS and we are seen to be wearing White Raimnent {Robes}. God with a MEGAPHONE is shouting this is my Church in Heaven !!

Rev. 4:4 And round about the throne were four and twenty seats: and upon the seats I saw four and twenty elders sitting, clothed in white raiment; and they had on their heads crowns of gold.

So, the above matches the PROMISES to the Seven Churches {Church Age overcomers} and as we will see in Rev. 5, there is NO DOUBT this is the Church.

Rev. 5:9 And they sung a new song, saying, Thou art worthy to take the book, and to open the seals thereof: for thou wast slain, and hast redeemed us to God by thy blood out of every kindred, and tongue, and people, and nation;

10 And hast made us unto our God kings and priests: and we shall reign on the earth.

So, finally, we see here that THEY SUNG {Church in Heaven, by now the Bride as evidenced by the White Robes} that Jesus was Worthy to OPEN THE SEALS because he has {CATCH THIS} Redeemed use to God by the Blood of the Lamb {Glory to Godd} so this is THE CHURCH in Heaven before the Seals have been opened, there is NO DOUBT about what I am telling you guys. We can even see they came out of EVERY Nation, tongue, kindred and peoples on earth. {CHURCH}. And God has made us Kings and Priests {24 Elders in 1 Chronicles 24 were the 24 Orders of Priests}

Jesus opens the Seal after the Rapture of the Church. We are in Heaven when that event happens. Now that I have cred with you guys let me show you what the Seals actually are. They are not actual EVENTS in real-time. Jesus has to open all 7 Seals before he can read the Book. Think of 7 Locks instead.

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No, the book of Revelation is as described, Rev. 1 Jesus is seen in all his Glory (The things which you have seen). In Rev. 2 and 3 we see the Church Age and all the promises the overcomers were promised, REMEMBER THIS. ( The things which are) and finally, we see in Rev. 4:1 the Rapture, thus in Rev. 4–22 we see the things that will be (HEREAFTER).

In Rev. 4:4 we see the 24 Elders {see 1 Chronicle 24, the 24 orders of Priests} have the very things the overcomers in Rev. 2 and 3 {Bride} were promised if the overcame. We see they sit on THRONES, they have CROWNS and they have on ROBES.

Rev. 2:10 Fear none of those things which thou shalt suffer: behold, the devil shall cast some of you into prison, that ye may be tried; and ye shall have tribulation ten days: be thou faithful unto death, and I will give thee a crown of life.

Rev. 3:5 He that overcometh, the same shall be clothed in white raiment; and I will not blot out his name out of the book of life, but I will confess his name before my Father, and before his angels.

Rev. 3:21 To him that overcometh will I grant to sit with me in my throne, even as I also overcame, and am set down with my Father in his throne.

So, I hate posting scriptures like this in full, but this is SO IMPORTANT that you understand that these are not just coincidences, this is The Church in Heaven, BEFORE the Seals, are broken by Jesus. All of those things shown in Rev. 4 are PROMISED to the overcoming Church if they are faithful unto death. The 24 Elder lingo comes from 1 Chronicle 24, its the 24 orders of Priests, and we are said in Revelation 5:9–10 to be Kings and Priests in Christ.

So, we are seen in Heaven in Rev. 4:4, which I will post below along with Rev. 5:9–10, and we are seen in Rev. 4:4 to sit on THRONES, we are seen to have CROWNS and we are seen to be wearing White Raiment {Robes}. God with a MEGAPHONE is shouting this is my Church in Heaven !!

Rev. 4:4 And round about the throne were four and twenty seats: and upon the seats I saw four and twenty elders sitting, clothed in white raiment; and they had on their heads crowns of gold.

So, the above matches the PROMISES to the Seven Churches {Church Age overcomers} and as we will see in Rev. 5, there is NO DOUBT this is the Church.

Rev. 5:9 And they sung a new song, saying, Thou art worthy to take the book, and to open the seals thereof: for thou wast slain, and hast redeemed us to God by thy blood out of every kindred, and tongue, and people, and nation; 10 And hast made us unto our God kings and priests: and we shall reign on the earth.

So, finally, we see here that THEY SUNG {Church in Heaven, by now the Bride as evidenced by the White Robes} that Jesus was Worthy to OPEN THE SEALS because he has {CATCH THIS} Redeemed use to God by the Blood of the Lamb {Glory to God} so this is THE CHURCH in Heaven before the Seals have been opened, there is NO DOUBT about what I am telling you guys. We can even see they came out of EVERY Nation, tongue, kindred and peoples on earth. {CHURCH}. And God has made us Kings and Priests {24 Elders in 1 Chronicles 24 were the 24 Orders of Priests}

Jesus opens the Seal after the Rapture of the Church. We are in Heaven when that event happens. Now that I have cred with you guys let me show you what the Seals actually are. They are not actual EVENTS in real-time. Jesus has to open all 7 Seals before he can read the Book. Think of 7 Locks instead.

Now, the 6th Seal is opened, this is Jesus showing John what will happen when the DOTL finally hits, that happens in Rev. chapter 8 with the First Four Trumpet Judgments. The DOTL remember is also shown in Joel ch. 2 and other places, but just like here in Rev. 6, its always shown with the Sun and Moon going dark or the moon turning blood red. Thus, Jesus is foretelling of what this event will bring to pass, then saying with this event kicks off the 42-months of God's Wrath on mankind. The Great earthquake is the IMPACT this asteroid will have when it strikes the earth, which is what Rev. shows it to be. The Sun goes black and the moon turns blood red and men will say, hide us from the Lambs Wrath.

In Rev. 7, we see the 144,000 which really means…..All Jews who Repent, this is a Metaphor for ALL Israel, the number 12 is Fullness thus 12 x 12,000 = ALL Israel who repent, its more like 2 to 3 million Jews. These are the Jews Jesus warns to Flee Judea in Matt. 24:15–17 when they see the Abomination of Desolation. There were never any lost tribes of Israel. Next, the Angel is told to HURT NOT the Earth, Sea nor Trees until the 144,000 {fleeing Jews} have been sealed in the head {protected by reaching Petra}. So, what is it that HURTS the Earth, Sea, and Trees? Well, just look at Rev. 8, the asteroid strike !! We will see that shortly. Next, we see the Raptured Church one last time in Rev. 7:9–16, the same Raptured Church we saw in Rev. 4 and 5.

NOW COMES THE DAY OF THE LORD !!

Rev. 8 has the coming asteroid strike that kicks of the DOTL, or God’s Judgment on mankind. By the way, for all you doubters, there is an asteroid heading our way named Apophis {Egyptian false gods name} and the Scientists first saw this in like 2003 or 2004, why do you think Trump created the Space Force all of the sudden? This asteroid is 400 yards wide, it is scheduled to come within 20,000 miles of the earth on April 13, 2029 {Fri. 13}, that is 10 TIMES closer than the moon !! Now think about recent events to see if they are the BIRTH PANGS/Sorrows from Matthew 24, the Plagues that have killed 200,000 or more worldwide, the plague that has CLOSED THE WORLD DOWN, followed by UNLAWLESSNESS in the streets, you do the math!!

This asteroid, IMHO, is going to hit, thus the DOTL starts on April 13, 2029, and since I believe in a pre-trib Rapture, that puts the Rapture 3.5 years earlier, in the fall of 2025, and no, that is not knowing the Day nor the Hour, and Jesus in Matt. 24:32–35 stated we can know THE SEASON, just not the Day nor the Hour. So, what happens when this asteroid strikes ?

Well, according to some scientists, THE FIRE hits first before the impact, so the First Trumpet being the Grasses and Trees burning now makes perfect sense. And the Angels holding up the Judgments until the 144,000 {Fleeing Jews} make it into Petra also makes perfect sense. The grasses and trees burn first. Then the “mountain” is cast into the Sea. Well, if this asteroid hits, they say there is a three percent chance it will hit the earth, about the same chance they gave President Trump. It will hit just off the coast of California on April 13, 2029.

It will no doubt wreak havoc on all of the Americas, this is THE SIGN the Anti-Christ needs to go forth and conquer, it takes out the all-powerful USA and while the rest of the world looks in horror, hes planning his Blitzkrieg on Israel and the MANY nations in the Mediterranean Sea Region, Dan. 11:40–43 says he Conquers all of North Africa, Israel, Syria, Lebanon etc. etc. So this E.U. President then becomes THE BEAST for exactly 42 months, which parallels with God’s 42 months of Wrath on Babylon {Whole World = Babylon or Satan’s Dark Kingdom on Earth where he confuses mankind}.

This asteroid basically takes out a 1/3 of the world, and since we know it doesn’t take out Israel and the E.U. its hitting just off of California makes perfect sense. Thus 1/3 of the Trees burn, 1/3 of the Ships are destroyed, 1/3 of the sea creatures are destroyed. John is then shown a star hitting the earth, I am sure this is the exact same space rock, its just shown to John as coming in on fire, and thus the Nuclear Fallout will this time Poison 1/3 of the Fresh Waters via the 3rd Trumpet that sound. The fourth Trumpet is the aftermath, the plume of smoke and debris will blot out the sun and moon by 1/3, cause the sun to go dark and the moon to turn blood red. So, Seal #6 only FORETELLS of what is coming during the Trumpet Judgments. I skipped Seal #7 on purpose. Look at it in a different light now, we now know why there is Silence in Heaven for 30 minutes, whereas the other Seals had Jesus Prophesying what was about to befall mankind and the Angels were like, COME AND SEE, with the 7th Seal there was SILENCE, The Book/Scroll of Judgments was now opened up, there was no more waiting, the 7 Angels readied the 7 Trumpets to SOUND !! The Judgments had come thus no more Prophetic utterances were needed, Judgment has come upon Mankind once at for all. The Day of the Lord God has arrived, His Wrath is at hand. Amen.

Even so, Come Lord Come. This is no game. If you do not know Jesus Christ, you have about 5 years until the Rapture, less than 10 years until Judgment falls and Saints, in less than 15 years, Jesus will be ruling over this earth once and for all, bank on it.

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