JUDE WAS WRITTEN TO ISRAEL

[douge]

Jude is best viewed as being written not unto the church, the body of Christ, but unto the believing remnant of Israel. A few verses to consider:

Jude 1:17 But, beloved, remember ye the words which were spoken before of the apostles of our Lord Jesus Christ;

Peter, in speaking to Israel (1 Peter 1:1), also reminded Israel to remember what was spoken of, by the twelve apostles in 2 Peter 3:2.

1:18 How that they told you there should be mockers in the last time, who should walk after their own ungodly lusts.

Peter told Israel that there would be mockers in the last time in 2 Peter 3:3-4 (1 John 2:18). The last time, or last days, was the time in which Israel would be restored in the kingdom on earth (Micah 4:1).

1:21 Keep yourselves in the love of God, looking for the mercy of our Lord Jesus Christ unto eternal life.

For Israel, to keep in the love of God, is to keep his commandments, to enter the kingdom on earth (John 14:21, John 15:9-10).

Jude exhorts Israel to acknowledge that the Lord is able to keep them from falling, and be presented fautless before his presence at his coming (Matthew 16:27 Matthew 25:31).

The mercy of Christ would be realized at his coming, and his kingdom on earth.

Edited March 11, 2020 by douge

[Justin Adams]

Amos

In Acts, the Book of Amos is quoted (Amos 9:11-12) by James, the Lord's brother, at the council of Jerusalem. He said:

This agrees with the words of the prophets, as it is written, ‘After this I will return, and I will rebuild the dwelling of David, which has fallen; from its ruins I will rebuild it, and I will set it up, so that all other peoples may seek the Lord - even all the Gentiles over whom my name has been called. Thus says the Lord, who has been making these things.’ (Acts 15:15-17 NRSV)

Amos had previously railed on Edom. Edom and ADAM are the same root in Hebrew. This proves that the gentiles were who the apostle included in 'Israel'. The saved believers everywhere are God's peoples.

Edited March 11, 2020 by Justin Adams

[Heleadethme]

4 hours ago, douge said:

Jude is best viewed as being written not unto the church, the body of Christ, but unto the believing remnant of Israel. A few verses to consider:

Jude 1:17 But, beloved, remember ye the words which were spoken before of the apostles of our Lord Jesus Christ;

Peter, in speaking to Israel (1 Peter 1:1), also reminded Israel to remember what was spoken of, by the twelve apostles in 2 Peter 3:2.

1:18 How that they told you there should be mockers in the last time, who should walk after their own ungodly lusts.

Peter told Israel that there would be mockers in the last time in 2 Peter 3:3-4 (1 John 2:18). The last time, or last days, was the time in which Israel would be restored in the kingdom on earth (Micah 4:1).

1:21 Keep yourselves in the love of God, looking for the mercy of our Lord Jesus Christ unto eternal life.

Jude exhorts Israel to acknowledge that the Lord is able to keep them from falling, and be presented fautless before his presence at his coming (Matthew 16:27 Matthew 25:31).

The mercy of Christ would be realized at his coming, and his kingdom on earth.

Here we go again....raising that partition back up, even thought it cost Jesus His life to take it down and nail it to His cross.

[douge]

21 hours ago, Heleadethme said:

Here we go again....raising that partition back up, even thought it cost Jesus His life to take it down and nail it to His cross.

To rightly divide scripture, and say that not everything written in scripture is just for the church in this dispensation, does not negate what was revealed to Paul in regard to there being neither Jew or Gentile.

[dhchristian]

40 minutes ago, douge said:

To rightly divide scripture, and say that not everything written in scripture is just for the church in this dispensation, does not negate what was revealed to Paul in regard to there being neither Jew or Gentile.

You can over divide scripture too.... we must "rightly divide" scripture. If you over divide it you make the words there of none effect. We still read the Old testament as our faith is based on the teachings therein, we have not rejected it as the Word of God, instead we affirm it with the teaching of this New dispensation. The Old testament points to Jesus who fulfills the Old covenant and ushers in the new by His blood. In Christ Jesus there is neither Jew nor gentile, but all are a new creation in Christ Jesus. 

So Let's look at Jude. The Archangel Michael dealing with Satan dare not rebuke him but said may the LORD rebuke you.... Is there a lesson here for believers? Absolutely, The same lesson taught in 2 Peter 2 about false teachers trying to rebuke fallen angels by their own strength and will, and the same lesson the sons of Sceva learned the hard way in Acts 19:14ff. 

[Heleadethme]

1 hour ago, dhchristian said:

You can over divide scripture too.... we must "rightly divide" scripture. If you over divide it you make the words there of none effect. We still read the Old testament as our faith is based on the teachings therein, we have not rejected it as the Word of God, instead we affirm it with the teaching of this New dispensation. The Old testament points to Jesus who fulfills the Old covenant and ushers in the new by His blood. In Christ Jesus there is neither Jew nor gentile, but all are a new creation in Christ Jesus. 

So Let's look at Jude. The Archangel Michael dealing with Satan dare not rebuke him but said may the LORD rebuke you.... Is there a lesson here for believers? Absolutely, The same lesson taught in 2 Peter 2 about false teachers trying to rebuke fallen angels by their own strength and will, and the same lesson the sons of Sceva learned the hard way in Acts 19:14ff. 

Amen. 

2Ti 3:16-17

ALL scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:

That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works.

The entire old testament was written for Israel.....should we gentile believers stop reading it then?  Truth is truth and is for every believer and in every age, Jew or Gentile.  Or do we think God didn't know there would be gentile believers and a "church" when He inspired all the scriptures.....I'll say He did, we are nothing less than the mystery of God from the foundation of the world!

[Behold]

On 3/11/2020 at 8:10 AM, douge said:

Jude is best viewed as being written not unto the church, the body of Christ,

Thats not really the case.

Here is how it works.  When you want to know if an Apostle is writing to the church, or to a person, etc......you just read the first chapter.

The first chapter of Jude is absolutely directed to and for the Born again.

Is there spiritual application that can be derived towards unsaved Jews, ?  Sure, But that is always an Epistle.

Can JUDE scripturally be related to end times?   Sure, but, then again, ditto the NT in general.

JUDE is the writer who told us that one of the end time signs is that the TRUE preaching and teaching of the Grace of God "justification by faith"... will be castigated and twisted by false fake christians and devout christian legalists, and mocked as a.... "license to sin".

[Omegaman 3.0]

On 3/11/2020 at 6:10 AM, douge said:

Jude is best viewed as being written not unto the church, the body of Christ, but unto the believing remnant of Israel. A few verses to consider:

So, you don't think it is best viewed as to Jude said it directed?:

Jude, a servant of Jesus Christ and brother of James,

"To those who are called, beloved in God the Father and kept for Jesus Christ:"

Those who are called and kept for Jesus ARE the church, the body of Christ. The believing remnant ARE the church the chosen the called. There is one body, those joined to Christ through faith, whether Jew or Gentile. Those rejecting Messiah, are not believing God, in other words they do not have saving faith. Gentiles can be grafted in to the Olive Tree that is Spiritual Israel, while some of the natural branches, the physical descendants of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, can be cut away.

The first Christians were Jews, and there first mission, was to reach other Jews, and spread the gospel to the uttermost parts of the earth. Jude is an epistle, that is relevant to all who have ears to hear. Right?

[douge]

21 hours ago, dhchristian said:

You can over divide scripture too.... we must "rightly divide" scripture. If you over divide it you make the words there of none effect. We still read the Old testament as our faith is based on the teachings therein, we have not rejected it as the Word of God, instead we affirm it with the teaching of this New dispensation. The Old testament points to Jesus who fulfills the Old covenant and ushers in the new by His blood. In Christ Jesus there is neither Jew nor gentile, but all are a new creation in Christ Jesus. 

So Let's look at Jude. The Archangel Michael dealing with Satan dare not rebuke him but said may the LORD rebuke you.... Is there a lesson here for believers? Absolutely, The same lesson taught in 2 Peter 2 about false teachers trying to rebuke fallen angels by their own strength and will, and the same lesson the sons of Sceva learned the hard way in Acts 19:14ff. 

Just to be clear, to rightly divide does not mean we disregard any scripture which is given for our profit, learning, understanding, and application.

[dhchristian]

1 hour ago, douge said:

Just to be clear, to rightly divide does not mean we disregard any scripture which is given for our profit, learning, understanding, and application.

To say "Jude was written to Israel" as your post suggests is to say it does not apply to the nations (Gentiles)

Here is what you wrote in the OP. 

On 3/11/2020 at 9:10 AM, douge said:

Jude is best viewed as being written not unto the church, the body of Christ, but unto the believing remnant of Israel.

Which actually makes no sense at all considering verse 3 speaks of contending for the Faith....which is what the church is built on. This verse is the single reason why people in the institutional churches do not like this book as it encourages us to contend for our faith rather than tolerate the heretical teaching that has made its way into the church.