JUDE WAS WRITTEN TO ISRAEL

[Justin Adams]

I say again: there is NO dispensationalism. It is a made up word for weird teachings. It just confuses the sheep.. BAAABaaaa..

[TheBlade]

Well I will take Jude (James) word or the sweet Holy Spirits "Jude, the servant of Jesus Christ, and brother of James, to them that are sanctified by God the Father, and preserved in Jesus Christ, and called:"

To them.. hey thats me! Lets get real.. they were all JEWISH.. hello HIS OWN? Then just exploded and here we are. THIS is what Christ wanted...His word to the world. That is what He always wanted OT NT. Just ONE Body. For GOD so LOVED the WORLD! Amen.

praise God... "dispensationalism." I would go on but.. to say "its a made up word for weird teachings".. ok. Yeah.. its always the OTHER guy thats wrong :)... Jesus is the only name, Jesus is the only name,.. Jesus is the only name to remember!

Edited March 13, 2020 by TheBlade

[douge]

On 3/13/2020 at 11:15 AM, dhchristian said:

To say "Jude was written to Israel" as your post suggests is to say it does not apply to the nations (Gentiles)

Here is what you wrote in the OP. 

Which actually makes no sense at all considering verse 3 speaks of contending for the Faith....which is what the church is built on. This verse is the single reason why people in the institutional churches do not like this book as it encourages us to contend for our faith rather than tolerate the heretical teaching that has made its way into the church.

James 1:1 says it is written to Israel.

 

[dhchristian]

Just now, douge said:

James 1:1 says it is written to Israel.

Yes it does. But that does not mean we can ignore what is said there. Teachings such as showing favoritism apply both ways, to the Jewish believer as well as the gentile believer, and resisting the devil is not just for the Jews, and faith producing works are all part and parcel to any Christians walk. Where dispensationalism does apply is in some of the Gospels which speak of the earthly Kingdom, which do not apply to us now, but will in the future millennial reign of Christ. 

Some groups (Hebrew roots for example) say that the writings of Paul are not scripture. Some groups say that James should not be in scripture (hyper dispensationalists). But I believe the Word of God is inerrant and applies to all but must be rightly divided. For example the Baptism of John no longer applies to the church, as we are Baptized with the Holy Spirit. 

[Justin Adams]

Dispensational theology is only held by a few. It is just another man-ology to confuse the believer. Just take stuff as written.

If you are a Believer and reading it, then it must be for you. Otherwise, God is telling fibs...

And just so you know, the passage oft quoted, 'all scripture is of benefit...' etc. Means ALL scripture the apostles and Yeshua read. Does NOT mean it is all in the protestant canon (and that is another argument) it just means it is OF BENEFIT....

Edited March 16, 2020 by Justin Adams

[douge]

On 3/16/2020 at 12:36 PM, dhchristian said:

Yes it does. But that does not mean we can ignore what is said there. Teachings such as showing favoritism apply both ways, to the Jewish believer as well as the gentile believer, and resisting the devil is not just for the Jews, and faith producing works are all part and parcel to any Christians walk. Where dispensationalism does apply is in some of the Gospels which speak of the earthly Kingdom, which do not apply to us now, but will in the future millennial reign of Christ. 

Some groups (Hebrew roots for example) say that the writings of Paul are not scripture. Some groups say that James should not be in scripture (hyper dispensationalists). But I believe the Word of God is inerrant and applies to all but must be rightly divided. For example the Baptism of John no longer applies to the church, as we are Baptized with the Holy Spirit. 

Yes we don't ignore scripture, but we as you said, rightly divide as to what we obey, and rightly divide as to what is meant for us. Our doctrine is found in Paul.

[Leonardo Von]

On 3/11/2020 at 10:10 AM, douge said:

Jude is best viewed as being written not unto the church, the body of Christ, but unto the believing remnant of Israel.

I don't agree. Although Jude was written, at first to Israel, its content is for all the Church. Besides, the Israelites to whom Jude's letter was written is those who belong to the Church.