2021 Rapture

[iamlamad]

19 hours ago, The Light said:

  19 hours ago, RAPTURE2024 said:

To The Light

Since the Antichrist's reign lasts for 42 months (or 3.5 years) according to Revelation 13:5, the Antichrist's rule ceases at the end of the 70th week.

At the battle of Armageddon, the Antichrist and the false prophet are defeated and cast into the lake of fir

Do you have any kind of scriptural support that shows that the Antichrists rule ends at the end of the 70th week? or does it continue 42 months?

Do you have any kind of scriptural support that shows the battle of Armageddon occurs at the end of the 70th week?

For those that care, the 70th week ENDS at the 7th vial. But Jesus does not return to catch the Beast and False prophet until chapter 19. TIME passes between chapter 16 and chapter 19. How much time? Perhaps Daniel tells us in the 1290 days: it could be 30 days between. The point is, EVENTS take place after the 7th vial and before Christ returns. So, YES, there is scriptural support that the 42 months of authority extends PAST the week. "Rapture2024" is mistaken. 

Note, for those that care: ALL 5 countdowns, two as 1260 days, two as 42 months, and one as time, times and half of time - all 5 are countdowns for the LAST HALF of the 70th week.  The midpoint of the week then (when the man if sin abominates), is somewhere in Rev. 11 through 13.  

Again as you may suspect, the battle of Armageddon does not take place "at the end" of the week. There is some time between the end of the week and the battle. 

[iamlamad]

19 hours ago, The Light said:

  41 minutes ago, RAPTURE2024 said:

The Two Witnesses = Re 11:3  And I will give power unto my two witnesses, and they shall prophesy a thousand two hundred and threescore days, clothed in sackcloth.

The beast kills the two witnesses during the second woe. Armageddon has not happened yet. So the 1260 days witnessing is not the same exact time frame as the 42 months.

It may at first reading appear as you say, but it is not truth. The two witnesses begin their 1260 days of testifying just 3 1/2 days before the midpoint of the week, testify for 1260 days - which will take them to just 3 1/2 days before the 7th vial that ends the week. They lay dead those 3.5 days and then are resurrected (with all the rest of the OT saints) at the 7th vial that ends the week. 

John wrote chapter 11:4 through 11:14 as a parenthesis. 

The two witnesses SHOW UP and begin right where John first mentions them - which is just 3.5 days before the man of sin will enter the temple and declare he is God. John then wrote the rest of their story as a parenthesis. 

In other words, they SHOW UP and begin testifying, then 3.5 days later the man of sin does his abomination that divides the week.

The two witnesses 1260 days will begin at the same time as the 42 months trampling begins: The two witnesses show up because the man of sin just entered Jerusalem with his Gentile army troops. (Rev. 1-2) 

[Justin Adams]

57 minutes ago, iamlamad said:

Science of the planets is probably very precise:

 

[iamlamad]

19 hours ago, The Light said:

Many people incorrectly think that the daily sacrifice is taken away on day 1260. So if we add 1290 days to day 1260 we get day 2550. There are only 2520 days in the week. That would mean that the abomination of desolation would happen after the week is over.

The correct calculation is that the daily sacrifice is taken away on day 1185 and the abomination of desolation is set up on day 2475. That leaves 45 days of great tribulation. At the end of the week Jesus returns for the gathering from heaven and earth. This gathering takes place at the SIXTH SEAL. There is yet 42 months of God's wrath to go.

The 70th week is the time of Jacobs trouble. It is not the same time frame as the wrath of God.

Sorry, but it is your theories that are incorrect: John gives us the last half of the week 5 times and in three different ways, and Daniel gives us the same thing twice. That is 7 references (that should be enough!) that the last half of the week is HALF (exactly) of the 7 years using a 360 day year that God used. 

From chapters 11 through 13 - approximately 1260 days countdown to the end of the week. These are MIDPOINT chapters. 

hebrew chetsiy
Strongs:

 

1.  half: 

    a.  half

    b.  middle

God knows how to divide in half. Proven in 7 different verses.

[iamlamad]

 

13 minutes ago, Justin Adams said:

 

 

 

This is Sept. 1, 2 BC.  The software calls is 3 BC, but do to computers and math, there is no "Zero" year, so we must subtract one year for everything BC. 

Edited May 23, 2020 by iamlamad

[RAPTURE2024]

To  

iamlamad

WOW !!! Finally, someone who knows their Bible.

Usually , I go to Forums and  their is no Action there.

I  usually throw up a few scriptures to see if anybody will bite

and I am shocked at the knowledge presented here.

Kudos to all of you.

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NOW ,  to all those that want to  know what happens  just before JESUS Returns .

Several times the Scriptures say that God will SHAKE THE EARTH AND THE HEAVENS and the Sun will be Seven Times stronger.

Here is my take on them.  NIBIRU, a Large ball of IRON will pass near Earth and Pull the Earth out of Orbit and force it down 

to the Orbit of  Venus  for several days  and  then it will come back to its Orbit and then Jesus will come to Save the Earth. 

Edited May 23, 2020 by RAPTURE2024

[Justin Adams]

53 minutes ago, iamlamad said:

This is Sept. 1, 2 BC.  The software calls is 3 BC, but do to computers and math, there is no "Zero" year, so we must subtract one year for everything BC.

The Greek word for “wonder” in verse 1 means “sign” and God’s Word declares that there will be a sign in the heavens when Mary went into labor and gave birth to Jesus Christ. The Word of God is written across the heavens and in the stars. The signs of the Zodiac were originally not used in astrology but each one signified a characteristic of the life and ministry and kingship of Jesus Christ, the promised Savior and Son of God. The sign of the women that the Bible is referring to here is to the constellation Virgo. Revelation 12 further states that this woman was “clothed with the sun” another celestial body. The sun, as it appears to travel through the ecliptic each year, enters into the mid-body between the neck and the knees of the constellation Virgo, clothing her with the sun for approximately a 21 day period during any given year. In the year 3 B.C. which we later show by other celestial events in the heavens to be the year of the birth of Jesus Christ, the sun was in this position from August 27th through September 15th. Revelation also declares that “the moon was under her feet.” With these two specific details, we can pinpoint the birth of Christ very precisely. In 3 B.C. the sun and the moon in Virgo occurred on only one day and that was September 11. The configuration of the sun and the moon was visible in Palestine between sunset and moonset, this twilight period being called “night” in the Bible. On September 11, 3 B.C., sunset was at 6:18pm and moonset at 7:39 pm. Jesus Christ was born on September 11, 3 B.C sometime in that eighty-one minute span of time between 6:18 pm and 7:39 pm. Amazingly this corresponds to Tishri 1 on the Jewish Calendar which is the First day of the festival of the Feast of Trumpets. We will discuss the wonderful significance of this in a minute but I also wanted to share that was another significant astronomical display on September 11, 3 B.C.

From sunset of September 11, 3 B.C. to September 11, 3 B.C. Jupiter and Regulus could be seen approaching conjunction before dawn. Although the precise astronomical conjunction occurred on September 14, the angle of observation and Jupiter’s slow apparent motion would have made their close rendezvous obvious as early as the predawn hours of Thursday, September 12, within hours of the Messiah’s birth. At that time the king planet Jupiter could be seen approaching the king star Regulus in the constellation of Leo, the sign of Judah from whose seed the Messiah, the promised seed came.

Exactly one month before (on August 12) the world would have witnessed the close conjunction of Jupiter (reckoned astrologically as the Father) and Venus (the Mother) when they were only .07 degrees from one another when they appeared as morning stars on the eastern horizon. This was a very close union. But then, nineteen days later (August 31), Venus came to within .36 degrees of Mercury in a very similar astronomical display. Then, on September 11th, the New Moon occurred which represented the Jewish New Year. This happened when Jupiter (the King planet) was then approaching Regulus (the King star). And, on September 14, Jupiter and Regulus came to their first of three conjunctions in this extraordinary year. Then, over an eight month period, Jupiter made its “crowning effect” over the King star Regulus. There could hardly have been a better astronomical testimony to the birth of the new messianic king from the Jewish point of view. Why? Because every one of these celestial occurrences I have mentioned happened with the Sun or planets being positioned within the constellation of Leo the Lion (the constellation of Judah — from whence the Messiah was destined to emerge) or in Virgo the Virgin. The apostle John may have seen importance in these extraordinary occurrences when he symbolically showed that Jesus was born at the New Moon of Tishri, the Day of Trumpets (Revelation 12:1–3).

Jesus Was Born on the Day of Trumpets

If one can realize that the New Testament shows Jesus born on the Day of Trumpets (the first day of Tishri ― the start of the Jewish civil year) an impressive amount of symbolic features emerge on the biblical and prophetic scenes. Before the period of the Exodus in the time of Moses, this was the day that began the biblical year. It also looks like this was the day when people were advanced one year of life ― no matter at what month of the year they were actually born.

Notice that the patriarch Noah became 600 years of age “in the first month [Tishri], the first day of the month [later to be called the Day of Trumpets]” (Genesis 8:13). That was the very day when “Noah removed the covering of the ark, and looked, and, behold, the face of the ground was dry” (v. 13). This was not only Noah’s official birthday, it became a new birth after the Flood for the earth as well.

There is more. Even the first day of creation mentioned in Genesis 1:1–5 could be reckoned as being this very day. The early Jews discussed whether the actual creation took place in spring or in autumn. But since the autumn commenced all biblical years before the Exodus (Exodus 12:2), and since all the fruit was then on the trees ready for Adam and Eve to eat (Genesis 1:29; 2:9, 16–17), it suggests that the month of Tishri was the creation month, beginning near the autumn. If so, then the first day of creation mentioned in Genesis was also the first of Tishri (at least, Moses no doubt intended to give that impression). This means that not only was this the birthday of the new earth in Noah’s day and what was later to become the Day of Trumpets on the Mosaic calendar, but it was also the day which ushered in the original creation of the heavens and the earth.

As shown before, among the Jews this day was called Rosh ha-Shanah (the Feast of the New Year). The majority belief of Jewish elders (which still dominates the services of the synagogues) was that the Day of Trumpets was the memorial day that commemorated the beginning of the world. Authorized opinion prevailed that the first of Tishri was the first day of Genesis 1:1–5. It “came to be regarded as the birthday of the world.” 

https://goodnessofgodministries.international/2011/12/22/when-was-jesus-christ-born-the-bible-says-september-11-3bc-the-day-of-the-feast-of-trumpets/

Edited May 23, 2020 by Justin Adams

[The Light]

1 hour ago, iamlamad said:

Of course you are "unaware." Preconceptions do that to everyone. This is very basic:

It's also basic to understand that you will get your snow cone 5 minutes and 40 seconds after you order it. But by some great mystery, some have trouble with the basics. They refuse to see what is right in front of their face and are left with an unknown puzzle that they know not the answer to.

1 hour ago, iamlamad said:

1.  There is a future "70th week" or time of Jacob's trouble. 

2. This time of Jacob's trouble will be 7 lunar years - 2520 days long - 84 months long. 

You got is so far. Good.

1 hour ago, iamlamad said:

3. On the 1260th day into this 7 years, the man of sin will enter the new Jewish temple and declare HE is the God of the Jews (the God that created everything).

I see no scriptural support. Please produce the scripture that supports the erroneous conclusion.

1 hour ago, iamlamad said:

4. From that event to the end of the week will be another 1260 days. 

I see no scriptural support. Please produce the scripture that supports the erroneous conclusion.

1 hour ago, iamlamad said:

5. That event will be "marked" in heaven by the 7th trumpet.

Oh please, I've got to see this scriptural support for this. Sounds like imagination.

1 hour ago, iamlamad said:

6.  There will be 42 months of trampling that will start just a few days before the 7th trumpet. 

7. There will be 1260 days of testifying that will start just 3.5 days before the 7th trumpet.

8. There will be 1260 days of fleeing that will start just seconds after the 7th trumpet. 

9. There will be 3.5 years of supernatural protection that will start soon after the 7th trumpet.

10. There will be 42 months of authority given to the Beast that will begin some unknown time after the 7th trumpet.

11. There will be some unknown event that will happen 1290 days after the 7th trumpet.

12. There will be some unknown event that will happen 1335 days after the 7th trumpet. 

These are just a bunch of unsupported conclusions that are imagined. Try imagining how these events can occur when the mystery of God is finished when the angel begins to blow the 7th trumpet. Here is the scriptural support.

Rev 10

⁷ But in the days of the voice of the seventh angel, when he shall begin to sound, the mystery of God should be finished, as he hath declared to his servants the prophets.

See, I didn't have to imagine anything. I didn't have to get out the sledge hammer and beat this together. It right there in the Word. No imagination.

 

1 hour ago, iamlamad said:

See how simple this is with no preconceptions? Just taking Daniel and John at their word.

I see how easy you have imagined these things with no scriptural support that proves what you are saying is correct. Additionally, I view scripture with a preconception. That it is true and can speak for itself. I don't need to imagine anything.

1 hour ago, iamlamad said:

 

Finally, learn the difference between "and" and "to."

I hope someday you can learn how to get that snow cone. All the information is there. All you have to do is believe it and quit making it an unknown mystery.

[The Light]

58 minutes ago, iamlamad said:

Sorry, but it is your theories that are incorrect: John gives us the last half of the week 5 times and in three different ways, and Daniel gives us the same thing twice. That is 7 references (that should be enough!) that the last half of the week is HALF (exactly) of the 7 years using a 360 day year that God used. 

From chapters 11 through 13 - approximately 1260 days countdown to the end of the week. These are MIDPOINT chapters. 

hebrew chetsiy
Strongs:

 

1.  half: 

    a.  half

    b.  middle

God knows how to divide in half. Proven in 7 different verses.

Please post the verses and give your explanation.  I will be happy to provide the proof that you are in error.

[RonaldBruno]

15 hours ago, CaptWalker said:

Well considering that Christ was actually crucified around 29AD(according the Herod's death in 4BC) and that a "prophetic" year is actually 360 days, you would have to account for all those extra days from our standard 365. And even the leap years, about 25 per century. So then adding it all up would make it about 28-29 years...meaning it is technically only around 1991-92 in prophetic timing. And so when 2028 rolls around it would really be the year 2000, give or take. But i am a big believer in a shortened Great Trib. by much more than just one year, or otherwise no one would still be around, "no flesh would be saved". But it most definitely won't be 7 years of hell on earth, I can guarantee that!

Also not sure if anyone is familiar with the 1908 Tunguska event in Russia, but Wikipedia will give you all the details. Just something to think about as far as the 120 year generation is concerned.

Wait a minute. If we are currently counting 365 day years plus an extra day every 4 years to equal 2020, that would account for 29.16 more years if we used a 360 day year ( starting from 1 AD)  - making it the year 2049. 

Regardless, 1 revolution around the sun takes 365.25 days.  

The Jewish calendar has 7 out of 19 embolismic years, which they add an extra month ( leap month) - 2 Adar, in order to align with the solar/seasonal year.

Edited May 23, 2020 by RonaldBruno
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