When Does The 7 Years Begin?

[RevelationWriter]

What Scriptures Do You Go By For The Beginning &  Middle Of The 7 Years? Thanks.

[revv]

Daniel 9:2 & Daniel 9:27 respectively

[Last Daze]

9 hours ago, RevelationWriter said:

What Scriptures Do You Go By For The Beginning &  Middle Of The 7 Years? Thanks.

The 70th week began right after the 69th week.  The Messiah was cut off after the 69th (7th + 62nd) week (Daniel 9:26).  Since atonement for iniquity is accomplished during the 70 weeks prophecy (Daniel 9:24), His death had to take place during the 70th week or the time frame of 70 weeks is meaningless (Daniel 9:24).  The middle of the 70th week was when He became the perfect sacrifice for sin, putting an end to the need for OT sin sacrifices (Daniel 9:27).

There's a reason that the only time durations mentioned concerning the end times revolve around 3.5 years.

Edited April 8, 2020 by Last Daze
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[Marilyn C]

10 hours ago, RevelationWriter said:

What Scriptures Do You Go By For The Beginning &  Middle Of The 7 Years? Thanks.

Hi RW,

The Beginning, (Dan. 9: 27) the Middle, (Dan. 9: 27 & Rev. 11: 2, 3, Rev. 13: 5).

[Uriah]

If you mean the 70th week of Daniel, it was already fulfilled by Jesus. A 7 year tribulation? No such thing, it is approx. 3.5 yrs long. The ministry of the 2 witnesses and the anti-Christ are nearly concurrent. The latter begins a short time after the former, but each one lasts about the same amount of time separately.

[JohnD]

12 hours ago, RevelationWriter said:

What Scriptures Do You Go By For The Beginning &  Middle Of The 7 Years? Thanks.

Daniel 12:11-12 gives us the 70th Week of Daniel from slightly before the mid way point to the end (verse 11)

and from the beginning to slightly past the middle.  From this we can figure the date when the 7 year period begins

once the Temple sacrifice is abated.

[douggg]

On 4/7/2020 at 10:06 AM, RevelationWriter said:

What Scriptures Do You Go By For The Beginning &  Middle Of The 7 Years? Thanks.

For the beginning - right after Gog/Magog, in Ezekiel 39.    And the confirmation of the covenant in Daniel 9:27.

For the middle - the end of the 1260 days of Revelation 11, Revelation 12.

 

There are two paths to the 7 years in Revelation.

(Revelation 11 path) 1260 days (the first half) + 3 1/2 days + 42 months (1256.5 days) = the 7 years

(Revelation 12 path) 1260 days (the first half) + undisclosed war in heaven* time + the time, times, half time

* the second heaven, the cosmos.

 

= the 7 years.

Edited April 8, 2020 by douggg

[Diaste]

Are we wondering about the beginning of the 7 years in relation to the 4th of July 2020? Or what event kicks off the last 7 years? Are we asking if there is a 7 year period? 

It may be that I have just learned this and it's not something I personally reasoned out but I have always thought there is a 7 year period and it begins with someone standing behind and adding authority to an existing agreement concerning Israel, per Daniel 9:26:27.

There is also Matt 24. There we have the A of D where Daniel makes clear there follows a period of 1335 days. But there are also the events preceding the A of D Jesus told us about in Matt 24.

In my studies it seems the last 7 years begins with a covenant and the events and conditions of Matt 24:4-11 are part of that period of 3.5 years before the A of D. 

 

[Justin Adams]

What if the graph is wrong. What if the 70 years so many affirm is over already. Can you find a verse that includes a "7" with the word "tribulation"?

How can we take a fresh look at all this and forget seminaries, Le Haye and the pop eschatology; Darby and many other thousands of theologies are built on very questionable basis.

Not one of the 'eschaton' systems is without flaws and often cheats by taking parts of verses and stapling them to others out of context..

[Uriah]

The scenario I envision (once again) at this point is that fighting will break out between Israel and "Palestinians" and will rapidly escalate by jihadists/armies  from around the region to the point Israel's existence is threatened. Israel, especially in such a case could resort to tactical nuclear weapons. 

The world community would then step in and force the formation of a new Palestinian nation, thereby dividing the land. The "peacekeepers" between the two enemies would end up right through the midst of Jerusalem. This would bring us to Rev. 11:2, beginning the ministry of the two witnesses. (1260 days).  A few months after that, would be the installation of the "beast", beginning his reign (for 42 months).

It may be worth watching the situation coming up in early to mid May. Israelis, with at least one of Trump's associates (Kushner?) are presently mapping out territory they plan to declare sovereignty over (annex). I cannot see the Palestinians sitting by and just shrugging their shoulders as they are reduced to living on what is essentially a reservation.