Are We Light in the Lord or Just Sinners Saved by Grace?

[Behold]

2 hours ago, Jostler said:

I think the point was the whole "borrowed" thing is a spurious attack    Every single truth I have embraced I borrowed from Scripture   HE is TRUTH.  And i'm borrowing as much of Him as I can manage as fast as I can manage it.  

And whoever He might give an ability to explain truth to my understanding.  Someone can accuse me of borrowing all they like...i'll wear that accusation proudly...if it's truth and my heart discerns it is...at that point it's MINE  

It is not an attack, to ask someone who is posting large volumes of religious teachings, .... if they are writing them, or to suspect that they are borrowing them.

Im on quite a few forums, and i notice that many people write something and then paste it all over.... and often, its not an original composition.

If you look at His Thread, you'll see that its formatted according to being PASTED.

He may have written it.

Im sure he'll let me know, and we can go from there.

 

B

 

Edited April 8, 2020 by Behold

[Not me]

16 minutes ago, Jostler said:

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~  Every single truth I have embraced I borrowed from Scripture   HE is TRUTH.  And i'm borrowing as much of Him as I can manage as fast as I can manage it.  

And whoever He might give an ability to explain truth to my understanding.  Someone can accuse me of borrowing all they like...i'll wear that accusation proudly...if it's truth and my heart discerns it is...at that point it's MINE  

Very nice Jostler, well said, all truth is plagiarized from somewhere. As you brought forth, what is of value, is when they become yours.. Then those truths become part of you, they become born in you, never to leave, they become part of your very existence... Part of your life.. You know those truths by experience...As all truths need to be known....

Be blessed, to Him be our all, Not me 

 

[Behold]

2 hours ago, Not me said:

 all truth is plagiarized from somewhere.

 

Jesus is THE Truth.

His bible is full of HIM, and none of this Truth is "plagiarized", so to say that "ALL truth is plagiarized", is not actually true.

The Bible is unique, in that God is writing thru the writer, so, thats original God breathed manuscript when first penned.

Where this turns into a Theological  fiasco, is when genuine manuscripts that create a bible, are doctored and tailored to suit the theology of the person/denomination who is sending it to the printer.

 

Edited April 9, 2020 by Behold

[Gideon]

5 hours ago, Behold said:

Will you ever post anything that you didnt "borrow" from someone else?

Give it a try.

Are you actually subtly accusing me of plagiarism? LOL.  My writing style may rub some the wrong way, it may be filled with typos, lol. but it is all me.  So if I have plagiarized myself, no harm, no foul! right? 

blessings, 

Gids

P.S. If by chance you know someone who is writing similar content,  with or without with a similar style, and preerably with less typos (see what I mean??), could you please give me their contact information? I would love to meet them! ?

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[Gideon]

2 hours ago, Behold said:

I appreciate your opinion, buy you'll have to mature a bit in Christ to be someone who could "tell me off", and if that day arrives, then make certain what you are defending has the value worth you trying to do it.

Ok?

  So,  i dont find much in what He wrote that speaks to anyone who is busy doing God's will.  His entire Thread, including at least one other one,  from a week ago, simple says that the born again are asleep, we're dead, God is about to kick up in the face,  and that trouble is coming so we better wake up.

Maybe that speaks to you, because its YOUR walk with the Lord that he's talking about, but, its not mine, and as far as i can tell, its not reflective of most of the people who are regulars here.

 

 

Correct em if I am wrong, but aren't you the one who objected to my 'broadstroking' the church by the use of the term "we"?  ? And yet somehow you know that what is shared will not speak to anyone busy doing God's will?  Hmmmm, me thinks the pot is calling the kettle black, lol. 

If saints are walking in forgiveness, a wonderful thing, but not "going on to perfection" by reckoning their old man as dead and no longer them, are they not asleep to that amazing blessing? And should we not 'awaken to righteousness and sin not' as we have been instructed?

As to me stating we are dead, amen!! We are! Our only problem is we have not (yet) mixed that truth with faith and claimed it as our possession. 

As to trouble coming, if you haven't noticed, trouble has already arrived, with more on the horizon. Do we realize our take on the gospel is built for itching ears only? No corrections, instructions, chastenings allowed.  Is this not exactly what we are told would be the state of His people  in the last days?

And is it not a sad state of affairs when what is shared, the actual how to see ourselves transformed into victorious saints by believing the promises of God, is viewed as somehow being negative?  Thank God, all that is about to change. 

blessings, 

Gideon

 

 

 

 

 

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[Behold]

48 minutes ago, Gideon said:

Are you actually subtly accusing me of plagiarism? LOL.  My writing style may rub some the wrong way, it may be filled with typos, lol. but it is all me.  So if I have plagiarized myself, no harm, no foul! right? 

blessings, 

Gids

P.S. If by chance you know someone who is writing similar content,  with or without with a similar style, and preerably with less typos (see what I mean??), could you please give me their contact information? I would love to meet them! ?

Thanks for that clarification.

I was not accusing you, but i was suspecting you of posting a cut and paste, because OF the way it formatted here,  proved that you pasted it here, and didn't actually it write it here.

So, that is why i asked you to "write".

So, if you wrote it on another forum and are just going from one Fourm to another pasting your stuff, then, thats pretty common.

 

Ok then,

 

B

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[Behold]

6 minutes ago, Gideon said:

Aren't you the one who objected to by broadstroking the church by the use of the term "we"?  And yet somehow you know that what is shared will not speak to anyone busy doing God's will?  Hmmmm, me thinks the pot is calling the kettle black, lol. 

If saints are walking in forgiveness, a wonderful thing, but not "going on to perfection" by reckoning their old man as dead and no longer them, are they not asleep to that amazing blessing? 

As to me stating we are dead, amen!! We are! Our only problem is we have not mixed thst truth with faith and claimed it as our possession. 

As to trouble coming, if you haven't noticed, trouble has already arrived, with more on the horizon. Do we realize our take on the gospel is built for itching ears only? No corrections, instructions, chastenings allowed.  Is this not exactly what we are told would be the state of His people  in the last days?

And is it not a sad state of affairs when what is shared, the actual how to see ourselves transformed into victorious saints by believing the promises of God, is viewed as somehow being negative?  Thank God, all that is about to change. 

blessings, 

Gideon

 

Gideon,

if you are again going to teach, that all believers are doing nothing, and you are here to let us know, then you can give that up., ok?

You're not the Holy Spirit.

And, in case you didnt notice it....  30 yrs after Jesus ascended, they were burning Christians, or using them for a Lion's lunch.

This last week,  Missionaries were killed, murdered.....Same as every week that follows.

While in the Dark Ages, when the Catholic Church ran way too much of the world, they were burning Christians.

So, its not anything new that Trouble finds God's people...... it always has, it always will, starting with the murder of all the Apostles, sept for John, and continuing until we are lifted off this Planet, by the Power of Christ.

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[Heybro]

Jostler, my point exactly, thank you brother, above all, let The WORD be preached, let it become ALIVE IN US, then let us appropriate it and live it, so that others can see "Christ in us, the Hope of glory."

[Gideon]

3 hours ago, Behold said:

Thanks for that clarification.

I was not accusing you, but i was suspecting you of posting a cut and paste, because OF the way it formatted here,  proved that you pasted it here, and didn't actually it write it here.

So, that is why i asked you to "write".

So, if you wrote it on another forum and are just going from one Fourm to another pasting your stuff, then, thats pretty common.

 

Ok then,

 

B

Actually, most of the time, when something is on my heart to write, I do it on MS Word. Now if I am following up or answering someone,  a "canned" answer would be tacky. LOL. But yes, it was and is my writing. Thanks for understanding. 

Gids

[Not me]

5 hours ago, Behold said:

Jesus is THE Truth.

His bible is full of HIM, and none of this Truth is "plagiarized", so to say that "ALL truth is plagiarized", is not actually true.

The Bible is unique, in that God is writing thru the writer, so, thats original God breathed manuscript when first penned.

Where this turns into a Theological  fiasco, is when genuine manuscripts that create a bible, are doctored and tailored to suit the theology of the person/denomination who is sending it to the printer.

 

I’m sorry, please forgive, my intent and meaning was unclear...Yes Jesus is the Truth and all truth ultimately comes from Him. My meaning was meant to portray that believers learn truth from something else, be it one another, books, or the scriptures themselves. So my meaning was to put forth there’s no new truths, just new to us truths. 

Hope this helps with my meaning and intent..

A fellow believer, Not me