Were All the commandments nailed to the cross?

[mikado5001]

In John 13:34-35 it says

"A new commandment i give to you, that you love one another; as i have loved you, that you also love one another.  By this all will know that you are My disciples, if you have love for one another."

I believe that if we trully live this commandment...we therefore obey all the old commandments...for how can we have love for one another if we don't obey them...along with this commandment i believe that the first commandment of Mosses is the most important..."You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, with all your soul, with all your streangth, with all your mind" (Luke 10:27a)

if we obey these two commands we can't not obey the rest, for they all are founded in these two!

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AMEN Mikeyjay. By eliminating the other commandments. Jesus completed the law by making it simple. When you love someone or something. You will not want to harm them. Love G-d, place no other G-d before him. Love G-d, think of him, and talk to him. And you won't want to. Same goes for man. LOVE is the answer. And Christ the missing link in that chain. Jesus is more than just the Savior. He came with a message. That message was LOVE

[Guest shiloh357]

Colossians 2:14 is simple to understand.

In the days when people were crucified, bit was quite common to nail the offenses that person had done to deserve the crucifixion, on the cross the person was hanging on.

What Paul is saying is that those things that made us worthy of death were nailed to Jesus' cross. He was dying for the offenses we committed. God was imputing to Christ, our sin. Just has Christ's righteousness was imputed to us, by virtue of his sacrifice upon the cross, likewise our sin was transfered to him, and he bore the shame of it all.

I have read many commentaries that try to proffer the notion that the Law itself was nailed to the cross, and that is just plain nonsense.

[Sirsilius]

Colossians 2:14 is simple to understand.

In the days when people were crucified, bit was quite common to nail the offenses that person had done to deserve the crucifixion, on the cross the person was hanging on.

What Paul is saying is that those things  that made us worthy of death were nailed to Jesus' cross.  He was dying for the offenses we committed.  God was imputing to Christ, our sin.  Just has Christ's righteousness was imputed to us, by virtue of his sacrifice upon the cross, likewise our sin was transfered to him, and he bore the shame of it all.

I have read many commentaries that try to proffer the notion that the Law itself was nailed to the cross, and that is just plain nonsense.

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Right ON!

[Guest Zayit]

Finally a sensible interpretation!

So, we are not without law are we?

If that is the case, what laws do we follow then? The ones that we can of the Torah's estimated 613? Or the over 1,000 found in the New Testement?

[yomotalking]

I don't understand the question.

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Same here.

[Guest Zayit]

Many say that the laws or commandments of the Old testament were nailed to the cross. They quote Paul in Colossians:

Col 2:14

Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross;

So I am asking were they all nailed and which ones?

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I answered that Yomo, if you still don't understand please see my reply here in this thread:

The Holy Sabbath Day

[Matthitjah]

Zayit,

You are not being a legalist.

The writ that was nailed to the Cross was the writ of offenses against you. Which were how you had violated God's Righteousness. If left to stand? Your case would fail in court. In light of the facts as opposed to the Law.

God's Grace is not for us to abuse rather to fulfill the Law. In other words we are not to abuse the Grace of God. His Grace does not give us license to be Un-Righteous. The Law was meant to show us how we did not measure up. How we could not measure up.

God has actually called us to be Holy and Righteous even as He is. How? By the Blood of the Lamb and the Word of our testimony we will overcome all Un-Righteousness.

The problem is that you and I are not Righteous. Jesus Christ is. The only way we can keep God's Word is to cling to Christ. Thus the need to walk in the Spirit and not the flesh. Sadly all to often. I personally am guilty of walking in the flesh. Therefore I thank God daily that I am under the Blood of the Lamb.

If we say we do not sin? We make ourselves out to be liars.

This is the confusion you are getting in being called a legalist. At least in my opinion.

Peace,

Dave

[other one]

Zayit,

You are not being a legalist.

The writ that was nailed to the Cross was the writ of offenses against you. Which were how you had violated God's Righteousness. If left to stand? Your case would fail in court. In light of the facts as opposed to the Law.

God's Grace is not for us to abuse rather to fulfill the Law. In other words we are not to abuse the Grace of God. His Grace does not give us license to be Un-Righteous. The Law was meant to show us how we did not measure up. How we could not measure up.

God has actually called us to be Holy and Righteous even as He is. How? By the Blood of the Lamb and the Word of our testimony we will overcome all Un-Righteousness.

Peace,

Dave

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When I read this question I was thinking along those same lines and marked all the commandments. The breaking of any of these can be forgiven and wiped out for salvation.

We are still expected to live a life that is pleasing to the Lord by His two basic commandments of Love the God with all your heart and mind and love our neighbors as ourselves. These are the two commandments from Jesus that we are to live by these days.

[Guest Zayit]

Zayit,

You are not being a legalist.

The writ that was nailed to the Cross was the writ of offenses against you. Which were how you had violated God's Righteousness. If left to stand? Your case would fail in court. In light of the facts as opposed to the Law.

God's Grace is not for us to abuse rather to fulfill the Law. In other words we are not to abuse the Grace of God. His Grace does not give us license to be Un-Righteous. The Law was meant to show us how we did not measure up. How we could not measure up.

God has actually called us to be Holy and Righteous even as He is. How? By the Blood of the Lamb and the Word of our testimony we will overcome all Un-Righteousness.

Peace,

Dave

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When I read this question I was thinking along those same lines and marked all the commandments. The breaking of any of these can be forgiven and wiped out for salvation.

We are still expected to live a life that is pleasing to the Lord by His two basic commandments of Love the God with all your heart and mind and love our neighbors as ourselves. These are the two commandments from Jesus that we are to live by these days.

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So we ignore everything else he said?

If these are the only two, can you explain how we do that? Is there anywhere in the Bible that tells us how?

[other one]

If you don't know how to love your neighbor as yourself, I don't think I can help.

Jesus took the laws that tell us to do particular things (or don't do particualr things) and turned those physical laws into spiritual ways of living.

If you love your neighbor you are not going to do anything that would hurt them, and this would go way beyond not taking his things or messing with his wife, or lying to him or any of the rest. It would also encompas helping a person when they are truly in need. The ten commandments don't tell me to feed a homeless person when I need to, or send help to some lost kid on the other side of the world.

So Yes, I think I can say that if you really live these two commandments you will not break any of the others.

That is the problem that the Jewish people had with the laws the whole time, they just kept making lists longer and longer of things that they can't do instead of changing the inner person into a lifestyle of not needing "do nots".

If you need a list of "do nots" you don't have the love of the Lord or your neighbor in your heart for those who do don't need lists of "do nots".

my two bits on the subject.