I'd like to know if Daniel 9:24-27 proves there will be a third temple

[BibleReader]

If so, what can lead us to that conclusion?  Thanks in advance.  (And I apologize for having posted this first in the Worthy Welcome section, I was a bit lost there for a moment--But now I get the purpose of that section)

[missmuffet]

24 minutes ago, BibleReader said:

If so, what can lead us to that conclusion?  Thanks in advance.  (And I apologize for having posted this first in the Worthy Welcome section, I was a bit lost there for a moment--But now I get the purpose of that section)

There is still the “small” problem of the Islamic Dome of the Rock being on the site where the Jewish temple is supposed to be. Muslims believe this is the place from which Mohammed ascended into heaven, making it the third most sacred of Muslim shrines. For the Jews to take over this place and build a temple upon it would be unthinkable in today’s political climate. But during the tribulation, the building of the Temple will come about, protected by the Antichrist (Daniel 9:24-27).

https://www.gotquestions.org/end-times-temple.html

Edited May 25, 2020 by missmuffet

[BibleReader]

4 minutes ago, missmuffet said:

There is still the “small” problem of the Islamic Dome of the Rock being on the site where the Jewish temple is supposed to be. Muslims believe this is the place from which Mohammed ascended into heaven, making it the third most sacred of Muslim shrines. For the Jews to take over this place and build a temple upon it would be unthinkable in today’s political climate. But during the tribulation, the building of the Temple will come about, protected by the Antichrist (Daniel 9:24-27).

https://www.gotquestions.org/end-times-temple.html

Thank you very much for your answer missmuffet.  I guess more specifically what I'm trying to figure out is since there are others that claim that Daniel 9:24-27 was already fulfilled, what evidence is there that it will be a future event rather than having being fulfilled already?  I'd really like to analyze the arguments for both sides and weigh the evidence in the balance and then make an informed choice.  I think it's a very important issue.  

Thanks in advance.  

[canada]

My understanding is that ... in the midst of the week (after 3 1/2 years of Jesus' ministry) He causes the need for the sacrifice of animals to cease because of the one time sacrifice of Himself for our sins.

At one time I was a futurist and believed this prophecy applied to antichrist, but not anymore.

[BibleReader]

14 minutes ago, canada said:

My understanding is that ... in the midst of the week (after 3 1/2 years of Jesus' ministry) He causes the need for the sacrifice of animals to cease because of the one time sacrifice of Himself for our sins.

At one time I was a futurist and believed this prophecy applied to antichrist, but not anymore.

Thank you.  It's definitely a valid point.  

Daniel 9:27 says:  "Then he shall confirm a covenant with many for one week; But in the middle of the week He shall bring an end to sacrifice and offering."  I understand what happens at the middle of the week according to what you're saying.  But more specifically, how does he "confirm a convenant with many for one week"?  

[douggg]

3 hours ago, BibleReader said:

If so, what can lead us to that conclusion?  Thanks in advance.  (And I apologize for having posted this first in the Worthy Welcome section, I was a bit lost there for a moment--But now I get the purpose of that section)

Yes, regrading Daniel 9:27.    In addition,

The prophecy of the transgression of desolation of the sanctuary in Daniel 8 is said in the text as time of the end.     The sanctuary has two chambers.   The holy place.   And the holy of holies place.

 

Daniel 8:13 Then I heard one saint speaking, and another saint said unto that certain saint which spake, How long shall be the vision concerning the daily sacrifice, and the transgression of desolation, to give both the sanctuary and the host to be trodden under foot?

14 And he said unto me, Unto two thousand and three hundred days; then shall the sanctuary be cleansed.


The transgression of desolation - the revealed man of sin sitting in the temple.
The abomination of desolation - the standing statue image of the beast placed in the holy place, the statue shortly incarnated by Satan when he is cast down to earth.

 

I show both on my chart.    Just follow the red line critical path of events from day 1 of the 70th week,  to day 2520 of the 70th week.     Each event has the reference text.

 

Edited May 25, 2020 by douggg

[douggg]

2 hours ago, BibleReader said:

Daniel 9:27 says:  "Then he shall confirm a covenant with many for one week; But in the middle of the week He shall bring an end to sacrifice and offering."  I understand what happens at the middle of the week according to what you're saying.  But more specifically, how does he "confirm a convenant with many for one week"?  

Confirmation of the covenant will be a big speech the Antichrist makes from the temple mount, as perceived messiah by the Jews.     The required speech is something that Moses required of all future leaders of Israel, back in Deuteronomy 31:9-13, regarding the Mt. Sinai covenant.     The interval for confirming the Mt. Sinai covenant was established by Moses on a 7 year cycle.

The covenant is not a peace treaty as has been popularized by bible prophecy commentators.

 

 

 

[BibleReader]

2 hours ago, douggg said:

I show both on my chart.    Just follow the red line critical path of events from day 1 of the 70th week,  to day 2520 of the 70th week.     Each event has the reference text.

 

 

Thank you, the chart seems interesting.  What I don't understand too well from the chart is when the construction of the temple begins and if and when the temple is destroyed.  

Also, why do you believe that Daniel 9:24-27 could not have been fulfilled in the past?  

[douggg]

42 minutes ago, BibleReader said:

Thank you, the chart seems interesting.  What I don't understand too well from the chart is when the construction of the temple begins and if and when the temple is destroyed. 

I don't think we can know at this time, so I didn't put the construction of the temple on my chart.

That temple though, whenever it is built, will be cleansed of the things that make it desolate (from worship of the One True God) at Jesus's return.      There may be a larger temple built for the millennial period.

42 minutes ago, BibleReader said:

Also, why do you believe that Daniel 9:24-27 could not have been fulfilled in the past? 

Parts of it has been fulfilled already.

The messiah arrived after 7 weeks plus 62 weeks, Daniel 9:26a - Jesus arrived in Jerusalem, riding the donkey (Zechariah 9:9) hailed as the messiah by his followers in John 12:12-15.     4 days later was cufoff, crucified.

Then about 40 years later the temple was destroyed, Daniel 9:26b.   

The prince who shall come and all of Daniel 9:27 is still future.

 

 

Edited May 26, 2020 by douggg

[douggg]

4 hours ago, Da Puppers said:

The Messiah is cut off AFTER the end of the 62 weeks, and not at the end of the 62 weeks.

There are 4 days difference between Jesus arriving in Jerusalem hailed as the messiah and his being cutoff, crucified.     The 70th week is still left.