Name That King! Revealing the Beast.

[DeighAnn]

17 minutes ago, Last Daze said:

You're correct.  He's not.  There is no precedent for a human going into or coming out of the abyss.  The abyss is only used in connections with evil spirit beings.  The beast is an evil spirit being.  The false prophet is the only human of the evil trio.

In checking out this "nimrod" thing, I read this (not that it matters as Judas was not a king or assyrian or what ever, but your statement made me think back on it).  

Luke 22:3 Then entered Satan into Judas surnamed Iscariot, being of the number of the twelve.

Luke 22:4 And he went his way, and communed with the chief priests and captains, how he might betray him unto them.

John 6:70 Jesus answered them, Have not I chosen you twelve, and one of you is a devil?  

John 6:71 He spake of Judas Iscariot the son of Simon: for he it was that should betray him, being one of the twelve.

John 17:12 While I was with them in the world, I kept them in thy name: those that thou gavest me I have kept, and none of them is lost, but the son of perdition; that the scripture might be fulfilled.

Acts 1:25 That he may take part of this ministry and apostleship, from which Judas by transgression fell, that he might go to his own place.

I had never "seen" that before and thought it strange and thought to share.  
 

2 Thessalonians 2:3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;




Revelation 17:8 The beast that thou sawest was, and is not; and shall ascend out of the bottomless pit, and go into perdition: and they that dwell on the earth shall wonder, whose names were not written in the book of life from the foundation of the world, when they behold the beast that was, and is not, and yet is.

Revelation 17:9 And here is the mind which hath wisdom. The seven heads are seven mountains, on which the woman sitteth.

Revelation 17:10 And there are seven kings: five are fallen, and one is, and the other is not yet come; and when he cometh, he must continue a short space.

Revelation 17:11 And the beast that was, and is not, even he is the eighth, and is of the seven, and goeth into perdition.

Revelation 17:12 And the ten horns which thou sawest are ten kings, which have received no kingdom as yet; but receive power as kings one hour with the beast.

Revelation 17:13 These have one mind, and shall give their power and strength unto the beast.

So, I am once again in a study of these things, more than once again.  Seems every time I believe I have it down, God sends and eye opening bit, some word or verse or thing that sends me back to the beginning.  I must admit, I love the work.  Bottom line, I believe that Satan is in control of all of them, whether in spirit, or incarnate and will be in person when he is cast out of heaven. 

But I believe the beast is a system, under an evil spirit being and not the being himself.  I don't believe Satan is cast out of heaven until the 2nd half as there is silence in heaven for only 1/2 hour, yet it is "the hour of temptation"

I believe "the beast" is coming together and has been and is comprised of "humans" (John standing on the sand of the sea, the waters being peoples and nations) who are followers of the "mystery of iniquity that doth already work"  in every area of life.  A system that will be composed of "kings" (multiple heads/crowns)  in "like thought"  under the evil spirit of Satan  (the one body they are all connected to).   A one world system beginning the hour. 

Revelation 13:2 And the beast which I saw was like unto a leopard, and his feet were as the feet of a bear, and his mouth as the mouth of a lion: and the dragon gave him his power, and his seat, and great authority.

This is where I believe we get the character of "the beast" system.  Going back to Daniel's beasts (some things known of them)

The  Lion represents Babylon.  Lion, "king of the beasts"  Eagle "king of the birds".  The head of gold of the colossus.  Nebuchadnezzar's armies were swift.  The plucking of feathers when he went insane and the standing when he returned to sanity.

The bear the strongest beast after the lion, lacking the majesty of the lion and much slower but devours much flesh.  This represents the Medo-Persian Empire. Huge armies that conquered and left nothing but starvation (got to feed them armies) and carnage behind them.  

The leopard, most agile and graceful wings giving it even more speed, under Alexander the Great small but well equipped armies took 10 years to take down the forces of Persia.   "Fowls do not fly".  What does that mean?  IDK.  The four heads represent the generals division of the Empire to Thrace, Macedonia, Syria and Egypt.

 World Powers.

One world order has been kept mostly hidden as they have/are been growing and putting the final touches in place not to be "revealed" until the fullness of the Gentiles (nations) comes in.  

 

[DeighAnn]

4 hours ago, The Light said:

Exactly. When the fullness of the Gentiles comes in, a portion of Israel will have it's blindness removed. That portion is the twelve tribes across the earth. The nation of Israel itself will not have it's blindness removed when the fullness of the Gentiles comes in. The nation of Israel will remain on earth when the wrath of God occurs.

Everyone will remain on earth for the wrath of God just as everyone will stay on earth for the tribulation. 

THOSE WHO ARE ALIVE AND REMAIN ARE CHANGED,

NOT TRANSPORTED

The air is in our atmosphere, the earths.  



Christ is COMING TO THE EARTH, to reign on the earth.  The Lords Day is on the earth.  He is bringing those who WERE IN PARADISE BACK to the earth at the 2nd Advent.  

Difference is IN BELIEF of what "HAS BEEN WRITTEN" and  a complete FAITH in GOD when HE SAYS
"WRATH FALLS UPON THEM".  WE ARE NOT THEM. 

We may be standing in the fiery furnace of GodS Wrath BUT not a hair on our head will be singed.  WHY?  Because GOD loves us.  He is not mad at us.  WE ARE NOT APPOINTED TO HIS WRATH.  THEY ARE. 



"NOT APPOINTED TO GODS WRATH"  DOES NOT EQUAL TRIP TO HEAVEN

JUST AS  "KEPT FROM THE HOUR OF TEMPTATION"  DOES NOT EQUAL TRIP TO HEAVEN

AND IF IT DID, YOU WOULD HAVE SHOWN WHERE THAT IS WRITTEN

God placed the blindness, He wont then punish because of it, it is to protect them.

[DeighAnn]

4 hours ago, The Light said:

The two is: 1 Noah and 1 Lot.  One plus one equals two.

 

Two examples to cover "the happenings" on earth before Christs return.  Not 2 returns.  
 

[DeighAnn]

4 hours ago, The Light said:

One event - Therefore be ye also ready: for in such an hour as ye think not the Son of man cometh. The Church will not know when he is coming.

2nd event - But ye, brethren, are not in darkness, that that day should overtake you as a thief. The twelve tribes will know exactly when He is coming. That day will not take them unaware.

Do you have ONE CONCRETE verse?  JUST ONE?  always these verses that YOU interpret "to mean".  You must have something somewhere that says "PRE TRIB I WILL..."

AND have you read what these churches are teaching and doing? 

THE only ones HE WOULD COME FOR are the ones that FOR SURE ARE STAYING.

Is this the "one event" church?  

Revelation 2:4 Nevertheless I have somewhat against thee, because thou hast left thy first love.

Revelation 2:5 Remember therefore from whence thou art fallen, and repent, and do the first works; or else I will come unto thee quickly, and will remove thy candlestick out of his place, except thou repent.  

DOESN'T sound like He is coming to take them to a wedding does it?

[Last Daze]

1 hour ago, The Light said:

The whole chapter links the man, the Assyrian, the king of Babylon, to the end times beast of the sea.

Maybe in your mind it does.  Unless you can present some evidence of the abyss being a place where humans are incarcerated and released, I'm not convinced.

[Last Daze]

39 minutes ago, DeighAnn said:

In checking out this "nimrod" thing, I read this (not that it matters as Judas was not a king or assyrian or what ever, but your statement made me think back on it).  

Luke 22:3 Then entered Satan into Judas surnamed Iscariot, being of the number of the twelve.

Luke 22:4 And he went his way, and communed with the chief priests and captains, how he might betray him unto them.

John 6:70 Jesus answered them, Have not I chosen you twelve, and one of you is a devil?  

John 6:71 He spake of Judas Iscariot the son of Simon: for he it was that should betray him, being one of the twelve.

John 17:12 While I was with them in the world, I kept them in thy name: those that thou gavest me I have kept, and none of them is lost, but the son of perdition; that the scripture might be fulfilled.

Acts 1:25 That he may take part of this ministry and apostleship, from which Judas by transgression fell, that he might go to his own place.

I had never "seen" that before and thought it strange and thought to share.  
 

2 Thessalonians 2:3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;

There's been a couple of threads about Judas being the man of sin that bring out the points that you do.  It's an interesting train of thought to pursue.

[DeighAnn]

4 hours ago, The Light said:

No, but part of Israel will not have it's blindness removed until the fullness of the Gentile comes in. That will occur when the rapture of the Church happens and that will be before the seals are opened, before the 70th week of Daniel. The Church will not be on earth when the time of Jacobs trouble happens. It's Jacobs trouble, when God turns his attention to Israel and they are regrafted.

You keep saying it and saying it BUT YOU NEVER SHOW WHERE IT IS WRITTEN.   Jesus foretold us all things.  WHERE DID JESUS TELL US THIS??

Is there some reference in the OLD TESTAMENT to this rap as there is to His 2nd Advent?

And here you go NEGATING Gods Word again, or does this have some meaning I am missing and owe you an apology?

Galatians 3:26 For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus.

Galatians 3:27 For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ.

Galatians 3:28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.

Galatians 3:29 And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.

 Abraham begat Isaac; and Isaac begat Jacob;  SO ALL CHRISTIANS ARE NO LONGER WHAT THEY ONCE WERE IN THE FLESH BUT THEY ARE ALL ABRAHAMS SEED THEREFORE OF JACOB, AND JACOBS TROUBLE COMES UPON ALL OF JACOB.  

 

Romans 11:13 For I speak to you Gentiles, inasmuch as I am the apostle of the Gentiles, I magnify mine office:

Romans 11:14 If by any means I may provoke to emulation them which are my flesh, and might save some of them.

Romans 11:15 For if the casting away of them be the reconciling of the world, what shall the receiving of them be, but life from the dead?

Romans 11:16 For if the firstfruit be holy, the lump is also holy: and if the root be holy, so are the branches.

Romans 11:17 And if some of the branches be broken off, and thou, being a wild olive tree, wert graffed in among them, and with them partakest of the root and fatness of the olive tree;

not separate from but to come in and amongst

Romans 11:18 Boast not against the branches. But if thou boast, thou bearest not the root, but the root thee.

Romans 11:19 Thou wilt say then, The branches were broken off, that I might be graffed in.

Romans 11:20 Well; because of unbelief they were broken off, and thou standest by faith. Be not highminded, but fear:

Romans 11:21 For if God spared not the natural branches, take heed lest he also spare not thee.

certainly doesn't seem as if "rap" is a forgone conclusion does it?

Romans 11:22 Behold therefore the goodness and severity of God: on them which fell, severity; but toward thee, goodness, if thou continue in his goodness: otherwise thou also shalt be cut off.

sounds like a test is coming doesn't it?

Romans 11:23 And they also, if they abide not still in unbelief, shall be graffed in: for God is able to graff them in again.

Romans 11:24 For if thou wert cut out of the olive tree which is wild by nature, and wert graffed contrary to nature into a good olive tree: how much more shall these, which be the natural branches, be graffed into their own olive tree?

Romans 11:25 For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.

Romans 11:26 And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob:

Romans 11:27 For this is my covenant unto them, when I shall take away their sins.

Romans 11:28 As concerning THE GOSPEL , they are enemies for your sakes: but as touching the election, they are beloved for the father's sakes.

Romans 11:29 For the gifts and calling of God are without repentance.

Romans 11:30 For as ye in times past have not believed God, yet have now obtained mercy through their unbelief:

Romans 11:31 Even so have these also now not believed, that through your mercy they also may obtain mercy.

 

Romans 11:32 For God hath concluded them all in unbelief, that he might have mercy upon all.

Please quit trying to divide what God has put together.  It isn't the chosen PEOPLE against the ones Salvation was opened to,

IT IS THE GOOD AGAINST EVIL.   What does Christ say?  

Mark 3:23 And he called them unto him, and said unto them in parables, How can Satan cast out Satan?

Mark 3:24 And if a kingdom be divided against itself, that kingdom cannot stand.

Mark 3:25 And if a house be divided against itself, that house cannot stand.

[DeighAnn]

4 hours ago, The Light said:

You should probably read Revelation 5.

This revelation 5?

Revelation 5:1 And I saw in the right hand of him that sat on the throne a book written within and on the backside, sealed with seven seals.

Revelation 5:2 And I saw a strong angel proclaiming with a loud voice, Who is worthy to open the book, and to loose the seals thereof?

Revelation 5:3 And no man in heaven, nor in earth, neither under the earth, was able to open the book, neither to look thereon.

Revelation 5:4 And I wept much, because no man was found worthy to open and to read the book, neither to look thereon.

Revelation 5:5 And one of the elders saith unto me, Weep not: behold, the Lion of the tribe of Juda, the Root of David, hath prevailed to open the book, and to loose the seven seals thereof.

Revelation 5:6 And I beheld, and, lo, in the midst of the throne and of the four beasts, and in the midst of the elders, stood a Lamb as it had been slain, having seven horns and seven eyes, which are the seven Spirits of God sent forth into all the earth.

Revelation 5:7 And he came and took the book out of the right hand of him that sat upon the throne.

Revelation 5:8 And when he had taken the book, the four beasts and four and twenty elders fell down before the Lamb, having every one of them harps, and golden vials full of odours, which are the prayers of saints.

Revelation 5:9 And they sung a new song, saying, Thou art worthy to take the book, and to open the seals thereof: for thou wast slain, and hast redeemed us to God by thy blood out of every kindred, and tongue, and people, and nation;

Revelation 5:10 And hast made us unto our God kings and priests: and we shall reign on the earth.

Revelation 5:11 And I beheld, and I heard the voice of many angels round about the throne and the beasts and the elders: and the number of them was ten thousand times ten thousand, and thousands of thousands;

Revelation 5:12 Saying with a loud voice, Worthy is the Lamb that was slain to receive power, and riches, and wisdom, and strength, and honour, and glory, and blessing.

Revelation 5:13 And every creature which is in heaven, and on the earth, and under the earth, and such as are in the sea, and all that are in them, heard I saying, Blessing, and honour, and glory, and power, be unto him that sitteth upon the throne, and unto the Lamb for ever and ever.

Revelation 5:14 And the four beasts said, Amen. And the four and twenty elders fell down and worshipped him that liveth for ever and ever.

Yes, there are billions of people who have died and gone to paradise.  ONLY 2 out of all those billions who did not SEE DEATH.  THEY. the two will be RETURNING TO THE EARTH TO BE KILLED THOUGH. 

How WILL THAT BE HAPPENING WITH "THE CHURCH" AS every man is appointed death and judgment.

(except that remnant bunch who stand, overcome and endure to the end and are alive and remain when Christ returns)

 

[The Light]

23 minutes ago, Last Daze said:

Maybe in your mind it does.  Unless you can present some evidence of the abyss being a place where humans are incarcerated and released, I'm not convinced.

So who do you believe is in the abyss?

[DeighAnn]

4 hours ago, The Light said:

Oh, saved by knowledge? That would be Gnosticism. No thanks.

Come on. Stay in context. The hour of testing is whether or not a person will accept the mark of the beast. Those that escape that hour will not be on earth. UHHHHH, UMMMMM, PRETRIB RAPTURE.

Proverbs 9:8 Reprove not a scorner, lest he hate thee: rebuke a wise man, and he will love thee.

Proverbs 9:9 Give instruction to a wise man, and he will be yet wiser: teach a just man, and he will increase in learning.

Proverbs 9:10 The fear of the LORD is the beginning of wisdom: and the knowledge of the holy is understanding.

 

2  Timothy 2:15 Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.

2  Timothy 2:16 But shun profane and vain babblings: for they will increase unto more ungodliness.


 

Colossians 2:2 That their hearts might be comforted, being knit together in love, and unto all riches of the full assurance of understanding, to the acknowledgement of the mystery of God, and of the Father, and of Christ;

Colossians 2:3 In whom are hid all the treasures of wisdom and knowledge.


WHERE IS IT WRITTEN "ESCAPE THE HOUR' MEANS TRIP TO HEAVEN?