Jesus vs Michael

[Daniel Marsh]

My answer:The archangel Michael is simply who the Bible says he is. He is the archangel Michael. There's not a single verse of scripture that says the archangel Michael is Jesus Christ.

"To which of the angels did God ever say, 'Sit at my right hand'?" -- Hebrews 1:13. Jesus could not therefore be the archangel Michael because scripture does say that Jesus will sit at the right hand of God the Father.

"It was not to angels that he has subjected the world to come" -- Hebrews 2:5. You asked me where the Bible says that angels will not judge the world. Here it is. Because the Archangel Michael is an angel, he could not be the Ruler of the world, could he? Since Scripture says Jesus is to be the Judge and ruler, he cannot be the Archangel.

I like the way Ken Taylor puts Hebrews 1:14 in his paraphrased Living Bible: "The angels are only spirit-messengers sent out to help and care for those who are to receive his salvation." Angels do accomplish specific tasks for Yahweh, but they do not and will not "judge" the world. That's very clear from a reading of chapters one and two of Hebrews.

Now, as to who Jesus Christ is, here are scriptures that clearly identify Him as God:
"The Word was God" -- John 1:1. This passage is clearly an echo of Genesis 1:1. It points to the eternal existence of "The Word" (Jesus). Eternal pre-existence is a quality which only God possesses. I like the way the New English Bible translates John 1:1: "What God was, the Word was."
"Thomas said to him, 'My Lord and my God." -- John 20:28. Unless you want to perform weird mental gymnastics with the syntax of this statement, you have to say that Thomas was saying that Jesus was God. Thomas is not addressing two different persons. He is speaking to Jesus whom he calls both Lord and God.
"From them is traced the human ancestry of Christ, who is God over all" -- Romans 9:5. Doesn't the apostle Paul clearly identifies Christ as God in this passage?
"In Christ all the fullness of the Deity lives in bodily form" -- Colossians 2:9. If all the fullness of the Deity is in Christ, then He is Deity, isn't He? Here's how Bible scholar William Barclay translates Colossians 2:9: "It is in Christ that godhead in all its completeness dwells in bodily form."
"But about the Son he says, 'Your throne, O God, will last forever and ever" -- Hebrews 1:8. Isn't the Son here being clearly addressed as "God"? You cannot come to any other conclusion if you correctly analyze the grammar of this sentence. Earlier in verse 7, the writer has talked about what angels are and then uses the linking word "but." Doesn't that conjunction "but" signal that the writer is no longer talking about angels (even archangels)?
"They will call him Immanuel -- which means 'God with us'" -- Matthew 1:23. The title says "God with us." It doesn't say Jesus is "Archangel Michel with us" or "Someone who is like God with us" or "Someone who is almost God with us." It cannot be stated any more clearly than "God with us."
"They will make the teaching about God our Savior attractive" -- Titus 2:10. "Savior" is what Jesus is called over and over again in Scripture. Take a look in the previous chapter of Titus: Titus 1:4. Or look at what is written in 2 Peter 3:18 and 1 John 4:14. We don't have two Saviors; we have one. If the Savior is Jesus, then isn't Paul here identifying him as God?
http://home.snu.edu/~hculbert/jehovahe.htm#michael

[Rosenberg57]

I know both Jesus and Micheal, and they are different Beings.

[R. Hartono]

Thats true.

Mikhail was sent to take Moses's body from grave.

He was also sent to replace Gabriel to hold the spiritual ruler of Persia at the time of Daniel

Many christians without Holy Spirit discernment claim Jesus as Michael

[NotAllThere]

 

11 hours ago, R. Hartono said:

Thats true.

Mikhail was sent to take Moses's body from grave.

He was also sent to replace Gabriel to hold the spiritual ruler of Persia at the time of Daniel

Many christians without Holy Spirit discernment claim Jesus as Michael

That's the Seventh Day Adventists, isn't it?

[R. Hartono]

17 minutes ago, NotAllThere said:

 

That's the Seventh Day Adventists, isn't it?

Theres no SDA in this nation.

[Daniel Marsh]

41 minutes ago, NotAllThere said:

 

That's the Seventh Day Adventists, isn't it?

JW's and SDA teach that Jesus was Michael.    

[Willa]

2 hours ago, NotAllThere said:

 

That's the Seventh Day Adventists, isn't it?

Jehovah Witness

[Dennis1209]

Jude 9 (KJV) Yet Michael the archangel, when contending with the devil he disputed about the body of Moses, durst not bring against him a railing accusation, but said, The Lord rebuke thee.

Anyone ever heard a scriptural reason why Satan wanted the body of Moses. As far as I remember, this is the only scriptural occurrence of something like this and strange? 

[NotAllThere]

2 hours ago, R. Hartono said:

Theres no SDA in this nation.

There are in this. 

[Daniel Marsh]

2 hours ago, Dennis1209 said:

Jude 9 (KJV) Yet Michael the archangel, when contending with the devil he disputed about the body of Moses, durst not bring against him a railing accusation, but said, The Lord rebuke thee.

Anyone ever heard a scriptural reason why Satan wanted the body of Moses. As far as I remember, this is the only scriptural occurrence of something like this and strange? 

The Assumption of Moses reads, 

"

106 ORIGINAL ASSUMPTION OF MOSES 

the action in the original Assumption was probably as 
follows : 

i. Michael is commissioned to bury Moses : 

ii. Satan opposes his burial, and that on two grounds 

(a) First, he claims to be the lord of matter (hence the 
body rightfully should be handed over to him). 

To this claim Michael rejoins : " The Lord rebuke thee, 
for it was God s Spirit that created the world and all 
mankind." (Hence not Satan, but God was the Lord 
of matter.) (b) Secondly, Satan brings the charge of 
murder against Moses. (The answer to this charge is 
wanting.) 

iii. Having rebutted Satan s accusations, Michael then 
proceeds to charge Satan with having inspired the serpent 
to tempt Adam and Eve. 

iv. Finally, all opposition having been overcome, the 
Assumption takes place in the presence of Joshua and 
Caleb, and in a very peculiar way. A twofold presenta 
tion of Moses appears : one is Moses " living in the 
spirit," which is carried up to heaven ; the other is the 
dead body of Moses, which is buried in the recesses of 
the mountains. 

This sketch is founded, as we have observed, on quota 
tions and references occurring in St. Jude and subse 
quent writers. We shall now reproduce it in the actual 
phraseology of these writers. "   https://archive.org/stream/assumptionofmose00unknuoft/assumptionofmose00unknuoft_djvu.txt

 

I think the real reason was for Satan to tempt Israelites to worship Moses' Body.