Fine Linen is the Righteousness of Saints

[Revelation Man]

11 hours ago, Uriah said:

See what I mean? Like a 13 yr. old.

(BTW I said you don't stick to a topic but bounce all over the place-I'm not into scatterbrained ramblings) 

You replies are like a 5 year old. No real substance, you want to run your mouth, but you never add anything but quips, that is why I laugh at you. You use it as an excuse because you can't answer. Since you don'y add anything, I might as well put you on ignore instead of wasting my time. You offer nothing of substance as far as I can see, you its just a waste of time seeing your quip replies which are not Christ like to start with, then when someone MOCKS you replies as being child like, you try to turn it on them being a 13 year old, not realizing I was making light of you capacity. 

[Revelation Man]

1 hour ago, Diaste said:

All in spite of the definition and centuries of practice. And fyi, that is not what's happening in Rev 14.

It will never come to you..........That I am confident of. I didn't have to look it up to understand it. You don't even understand how its used in a play or why. 

1 hour ago, Diaste said:

I guess we'll find out.

I already know, God doesn't keep us guessing. 

[Uriah]

1 hour ago, Revelation Man said:

You replies are like a 5 year old. No real substance, you want to run your mouth, but you never add anything but quips, that is why I laugh at you. You use it as an excuse because you can't answer. Since you don'y add anything, I might as well put you on ignore instead of wasting my time. You offer nothing of substance as far as I can see, you its just a waste of time seeing your quip replies which are not Christ like to start with, then when someone MOCKS you replies as being child like, you try to turn it on them being a 13 year old, not realizing I was making light of you capacity. 

So you admit to being a mocker, the predictable step before raging. I really shouldn't feed the beast. But my offer is still valid: if you want to actually DISCUSS something and stay on topic instead of tossed salad replies-fine.

[WilliamL]

On 6/30/2020 at 3:58 AM, Diaste said:

I don't disagree. The point was the appropriation of the positives and shunning of the one negative, "And he was given power to make war with the saints and overcome them." If hagios is the saints 12 times, then why isn't it the same groups of saints all 13 times?

Because the same group of saints have not always lived on the earth at the same time. The term in Revelation applies to God's people on earth, both ones to be raptured, and later the ones who become faithful after the rapture.

[Diaste]

14 hours ago, WilliamL said:

Because the same group of saints have not always lived on the earth at the same time. The term in Revelation applies to God's people on earth, both ones to be raptured, and later the ones who become faithful after the rapture.

And we are back to the illogic of the pretrib rapture and the proximal cause of the pretrib rapture; "we are not appointed to wrath". It seems some are. Why is that? Good Caucasian western saint aren't appointed to be in wrath(an ill defined term in the pretrib mind) but other saints are.

[WilliamL]

On 7/7/2020 at 3:37 AM, Diaste said:

And we are back to the illogic of the pretrib rapture and the proximal cause of the pretrib rapture; "we are not appointed to wrath". It seems some are. Why is that? Good Caucasian western saint aren't appointed to be in wrath(an ill defined term in the pretrib mind) but other saints are.

The simple answer is that "those who were ready went in with Him to the marriage." Matt. 25:10

That is, those who are faithful and waiting for the Lord at His coming in the clouds are raptured. But those who come to faith only after they see His glory at the right hand of the Father -- the Zech 12:10 folks -- are not raptured.

[Diaste]

18 hours ago, WilliamL said:

The simple answer is that "those who were ready went in with Him to the marriage." Matt. 25:10

That is, those who are faithful and waiting for the Lord at His coming in the clouds are raptured. But those who come to faith only after they see His glory at the right hand of the Father -- the Zech 12:10 folks -- are not raptured.

The problem remains however; some are in the wrath of God, believers, to which wrath believers are not appointed. This is the escape clause, the exit strategy of pretrib; and it only applies to a select group of believers. Other believers are inferior it appears and must endure wrath.

[Justin Adams]

On 7/7/2020 at 10:37 AM, Diaste said:

And we are back to the illogic of the pretrib rapture and the proximal cause of the pretrib rapture; "we are not appointed to wrath". It seems some are. Why is that? Good Caucasian western saint aren't appointed to be in wrath(an ill defined term in the pretrib mind) but other saints are.

Pre-trib is unfortunately self serving and has no real GOOD implications for our Great God Who is Good all the time.

Those that wait in vain for that great sky-elevator must sooner or later rethink their ideas and hopefully not lose heart.