trinity Preach The Trinity

[Your closest friendnt]

Ask some question so we can have a dialogue...

That's why we have no good communication...

Ask questions like have you come to understand that when someone believes in Jesus Christ the basis he also has the Father...

No one can have the Father in any other way.   Only ...

The way to the Father is Jesus.  .we did not have the Father before Jesus Christ death on the Cross.....

The Father sent Jesus Christ to open the way to him with his death on the Cross.   

That means the Father was childless....

Do you have any scriptures to oppose...if you do play your cards ..

 

[Fidei Defensor]

2 minutes ago, steve morrow said:

yes indeed JESUS  did say that --- and  JESUS  also said 

 

MARK 8:33  but when  HE  had turned about and looked on  HIS  disciples  HE  rebuked peter saying get thee behind satan thou art an offence unto  ME  for thou savourest not the things of  GOD  but those that be of men 

also he said this as well  

ACTS 5:20  go stand and speak in the temple to the people all the words of this life 

 

TITUS 1:13  THIS  WITNESS  IS  TRUE  WHEREFORE  REBUKE  THEM  SHARPLY  THAT  THEY  MAY  BE  SOUND  IN  THE  FAITH

 

LOVING  THE  LORD  JESUS  CHRIST

The Lord Jesus Christ is One with the Father and Holy Spirit (John 10:30, John 14, John 14:26, John 15:26, John 17:20-23, John 20:20-23, Matthew 28:19).

[Your closest friendnt]

2 minutes ago, Fidei Defensor said:

The Lord Jesus Christ is One with the Father and Holy Spirit (John 10:30, John 14, John 14:26, John 15:26, John 17:20-23, John 20:20-23, Matthew 28:19).

And what do you mean by that...

Because we are also one with them....

So please tell us something...when Jesus is Judging...

Is it Jesus Christ who is Judging ...

[Fidei Defensor]

“WE BELIEVE in one God,
the Father, the Almighty,
maker of heaven and earth,
of all that is, seen and unseen.

We believe in one Lord, Jesus Christ,
the only Son of God,
eternally begotten of the Father,
God from God, Light from Light,
true God from true God,
begotten, not made,
of one Substance with the Father.
Through him all things were made.

For us and for our salvation
he came down from heaven:
by the power of the Holy Spirit
he became incarnate from the Virgin Mary,
and was made man.

For our sake he was crucified under Pontius Pilate;
he suffered death and was buried.
On the third day he rose again
in accordance with the Scriptures;
he ascended into heaven
and is seated at the right hand of the Father.

He will come again in glory to judge the living and the dead,
and his kingdom will have no end.

We believe in the Holy Spirit, the Lord, the giver of life,
who proceeds from the Father and the Son.
With the Father and the Son he is worshiped and glorified.
He has spoken through the Prophets.
We believe in one holy catholic and apostolic Church.
We acknowledge one baptism for the forgiveness of sins.
We look for the resurrection of the dead,
and the life of the world to come. 

Amen.” (Nicene Creed) 

[Your closest friendnt]

I do not see any bible references and why? 

So what are you trying to say ....

Not to follow the disciples of Jesus Christ...or not to read the bible....

Where are the bible references....

I am not asking that you post scriptures reference for them..

I am asking if they posted bible references together with their Creed...

If it came as a package...the Nicea decree with scriptures...

How did the convince others they were correct...

With the Sword...

Jesus told Peter do not use the Sword...

Did they tell the believers if they asks inquiring questions that they won't pray for them after they died...

Did the Nicea greed people prayed for the dead..after they died...

 

[Fidei Defensor]

“Apostle’s Creed:

I believe in God, the Father Almighty,
maker of heaven and earth;

And in Jesus Christ his only Son, our Lord;
who was conceived by the Holy Spirit,
born of the Virgin Mary,
suffered under Pontius Pilate,
was crucified, dead, and buried;*
the third day he rose from the dead;
he ascended into heaven,
and sitteth at the right hand of God the Father Almighty;
from thence he shall come to judge the quick and the dead.

I believe in the Holy Spirit,
the holy catholic (all over the world) church,
the communion of saints,
the forgiveness of sins,
the resurrection of the body,
and the life everlasting. Amen.” 

[Your closest friendnt]

34 minutes ago, Your closest friendnt said:

And what do you mean by that...

Because we are also one with them....

So please tell us something...when Jesus is Judging...

Is it Jesus Christ who is Judging ...

Your answer 

The Nicea Creed...

24 minutes ago, Fidei Defensor said:

“WE BELIEVE in one God,
the Father, the Almighty,
maker of heaven and earth,
of all that is, seen and unseen.

We believe in one Lord, Jesus Christ,
the only Son of God,
eternally begotten of the Father,
God from God, Light from Light,
true God from true God,
begotten, not made,
of one Substance with the Father.
Through him all things were made.

For us and for our salvation
he came down from heaven:
by the power of the Holy Spirit
he became incarnate from the Virgin Mary,
and was made man.

For our sake he was crucified under Pontius Pilate;
he suffered death and was buried.
On the third day he rose again
in accordance with the Scriptures;
he ascended into heaven
and is seated at the right hand of the Father.

He will come again in glory to judge the living and the dead, 
and his kingdom will have no end.

We believe in the Holy Spirit, the Lord, the giver of life,
who proceeds from the Father and the Son.
With the Father and the Son he is worshiped and glorified.
He has spoken through the Prophets.
We believe in one holy catholic and apostolic Church.
We acknowledge one baptism for the forgiveness of sins.
We look for the resurrection of the dead,
and the life of the world to come. 

Amen.” (Nicene Creed) 

You did not answer the question with scriptures...

In the Nicea Creed..this and only part that says:

He will come again to Judge the living the dead...

Again no scriptures reference...

Does that say that Jesus is not Judging now from Heaven...when he comes back to Earth...then he will Judge the living and the dead. Q,  till that time ...no one is Judging? 

No scriptures reference...

And his kingdom will have no end....Q when his kingdom will start?  

No scriptures reference..

Please did they supply scriptures reference.   

Did they pray for the dead....

Does it say in the Creed to pray for the dead? 

The people who took part in the Nicea Greed...did they worship Mary....or asked the people to worship the  saints....scriptures references...

You ask for scripture reference...we are instructed to ask for scripture reference...

If you ask me I will give you scripture reference from the disciples.    The first generation of Apostles...

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I took Notice....that the Creed sais to be baptized for the forgiveness of sins....scripture reference from Paul...

[Fidei Defensor]

Worthy Christian Forums Statement of Faith: 

We believe in God, the almighty creator of heaven and earth.

We believe in the triunity of God. We believe that God is eternally One, and also eternally the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit — the three being distinct, but not separate. Each Person of the Godhead coexists from everlasting to everlasting.

We believe in the Messiah, Jesus, God’s only begotten son, God come in the flesh. He was conceived by the Holy Spirit, born of the virgin Mary. He suffered under Pontius Pilate. He was crucified, died and buried. On the third day, He rose again. Soon afterward He ascended into heaven. Now He is seated at the right hand of the Father and He will return to judge both the living and the dead and reign for evermore.

We believe all mankind are sinful and are therefore subject to God’s wrath and condemnation.

We believe that everyone is in need of God’s salvation. Mankind is absolutely unable to fulfill the heavy demands of God’s righteousness, holiness and glory. Therefore, God, in sending His Only Begotten Son, has accomplished redemption for us through the shedding of Jesus’ blood. Because of His Son’s death, God has forgiven us of our sins, reconciled us to Himself, and justified us by making Him our righteousness.

We believe that salvation is a gift received by faith alone, in Messiah alone, and is expressed in the individual’s recognition and repentance of sin, and the acceptance of the risen Messiah as Saviour, Lord and God.

We believe in the supreme Lordship of Jesus Christ, before whom every knee in heaven and on earth will bow. And that there is no other name under Heaven by which we can approach the holy throne of God. Jesus Christ is the one and only mediator between God and man.

We believe that immediately upon death, the soul of the believer is absent from the body, and present with the Lord.

We believe in the ongoing work of sanctification by the Holy Spirit after redemption for the purpose of producing life changing fruit — love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, meekness and self-control.

We believe that the 66 books of the Canon, from Genesis to Revelation are the exhaustive, inerrant and inspired word of God.

Link: https://worthyministries.com/statement-of-faith/

Edited July 27, 2020 by Fidei Defensor

[Your closest friendnt]

4 minutes ago, Fidei Defensor said:

Worthy Christian Forums Statement of Faith: 

We believe in God, the almighty creator of heaven and earth.

We believe in the triunity of God. We believe that God is eternally One, and also eternally the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit — the three being distinct, but not separate. Each Person of the Godhead coexists from everlasting to everlasting.

We believe in the Messiah, Jesus, God’s only begotten son, God come in the flesh. He was conceived by the Holy Spirit, born of the virgin Mary. He suffered under Pontius Pilate. He was crucified, died and buried. On the third day, He rose again. Soon afterward He ascended into heaven. Now He is seated at the right hand of the Father and He will return to judge both the living and the dead and reign for evermore.

We believe all mankind are sinful and are therefore subject to God’s wrath and condemnation.

We believe that everyone is in need of God’s salvation. Mankind is absolutely unable to fulfill the heavy demands of God’s righteousness, holiness and glory. Therefore, God, in sending His Only Begotten Son, has accomplished redemption for us through the shedding of Jesus’ blood. Because of His Son’s death, God has forgiven us of our sins, reconciled us to Himself, and justified us by making Him our righteousness.

We believe that salvation is a gift received by faith alone, in Messiah alone, and is expressed in the individual’s recognition and repentance of sin, and the acceptance of the risen Messiah as Saviour, Lord and God.

We believe in the supreme Lordship of Jesus Christ, before whom every knee in heaven and on earth will bow. And that there is no other name under Heaven by which we can approach the holy throne of God. Jesus Christ is the one and only mediator between God and man.

We believe that immediately upon death, the soul of the believer is absent from the body, and present with the Lord.

We believe in the ongoing work of sanctification by the Holy Spirit after redemption for the purpose of producing life changing fruit — love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, meekness and self-control.

We believe that the 66 books of the Canon, from Genesis to Revelation are the exhaustive, inerrant and inspired word of God.

Link: 

This is more reach with scripture references and so good with the Salvation issue with strong scripture references which if someone asks it can be given because they author are hear to help with the asking.   What a blessing...they do not depend on authority and fear of authority to make people understand it...they depend on the Holy Spirit that is working in every one the Paracletous....the Spirit of Truth...

The worthy ministry is very special to Jesus Christ very close to his heart...because they work in Love they are Sheppards. As Jesus had asked Peter be a Shepherd to my sheep..and to my Lambs....to both the Jews and the Gentiles.   

And this ministry does just that...they one with Peter in ministry...

PS 

This post is not about suggestions to make the Creed even more brighter so I just pray and leave it in Jesus Christ hands and timing...there is God's timing for everything...

 

Hope that you revisit your royalties...this is good suggestion for everyone...so please do not take as being said to you...mostly I said that for those who I am wondering why they do not believe better...

Why the mix their faith with much tradition leaning to the left...

 

 

[Fidei Defensor]

41 minutes ago, Your closest friendnt said:

This is more reach with scripture references and so good with the Salvation issue with strong scripture references which if someone asks it can be given because they author are hear to help with the asking.   What a blessing...they do not depend on authority and fear of authority to make people understand it...they depend on the Holy Spirit that is working in every one the Paracletous....the Spirit of Truth...

The worthy ministry is very special to Jesus Christ very close to his heart...because they work in Love they are Sheppards. As Jesus had asked Peter be a Shepherd to my sheep..and to my Lambs....to both the Jews and the Gentiles.   

And this ministry does just that...they one with Peter in ministry...

PS 

This post is not about suggestions to make the Creed even more brighter so I just pray and leave it in Jesus Christ hands and timing...there is God's timing for everything...

 

Hope that you revisit your royalties...this is good suggestion for everyone...so please do not take as being said to you...mostly I said that for those who I am wondering why they do not believe better...

Why the mix their faith with much tradition leaning to the left...

 

 

The Worthy Statement of Faith affirms the Scriptures,  The Nicene Creed and Apostle’s Creed. 

Alive shared earlier that members of Worthy are required to believe The Statement of Faith. If not you join Non-Conformists. 

Edited July 27, 2020 by Fidei Defensor