JERUSALEM IS FALLING

[iamlamad]

3 hours ago, abcdef said:

 The War of Armageddon is happening in front of you.

The battle of Armageddon that ends the war is soon to happen.

You are just on the wrong time line.

So SHOW US a Google picture of the valley of Megiddo with millions of troops. 

Oh! Sorry, they aren't there yet, because the battle us FUTURE. The village at the bottom is Migiddo.  The valley of Megiddo is all that farm land morth of the village. NO TROOPS. No battle of Armageddon. It is FUTURE.

[iamlamad]

3 hours ago, abcdef said:

I see that you did not answer the questions that I asked, Can you?

Who was the iron of the statue in Dan. 2, two thousand years ago, five hundred years ago, right now??

Can you answer?

 

The reason that  you will not answer is because that you would admit that there is no gap in the iron of the Dan. 2 timeline, proving that the Antichrist has been here all that time.

Proving yourself that the pretrib timeline is false.

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Answer the questions if you can.

There were TWO LEGS on that image. One was referencing Rome (the nation) as the Western Leg, the other, nations surrounding Israel in the Middle east: the Eastern leg. Are there still people living in those areas? Of course there was no gap: Rome was not defeated as Babylon was, and they as Medo-Persia was. Rome just faded away with hundreds of small battles. But PEOPLE still live there. People still live in "Babylon" but today it is called Iraq. People still live in Persia, but today it is called Iran. All this proves is there are PEOPLE from which the Antichrist could come from. Some imagine he comes from Greece, and others from Syria or Turkey. Where he comes from is no where near as important as what he will do. 

Does that image still stand? No, it is long gone. The empires that make it up are long gone. But the land areas of these Empires STILL ARE - and people live there. There are still traces of the ancient city of Babylon, in Iraq. But today there are over 40 million people in Iraq. That is enough to have a sizable army.  Iran has over 80,000 people today. Sometime in our future a man with an army will take out three nations. These three will have been aligned (probably religiously) with 7 others. (Then in total). When three are gone, there will be seven left, and this man will then become the 8th king. In short, he will build an EMPIRE. At this point, no one will dare go into battle against him. (who is able to make war with him?)

Just so you know, these events have NOTHING TO DO with when the church will be caught up. 

The truth is, Daniel 9 GIVES us a gap. Believe it for it is TRUTH. 

 

[abcdef]

On 8/29/2020 at 2:51 PM, iamlamad said:

So SHOW US a Google picture of the valley of Megiddo with millions of troops. 

Oh! Sorry, they aren't there yet, because the battle us FUTURE. The village at the bottom is Migiddo.  The valley of Megiddo is all that farm land morth of the village. NO TROOPS. No battle of Armageddon. It is FUTURE.

Yes you are right, I don' see any armies there ,.............YET.

And we both agree that the battle is future.

The question is, how far in the future is it?

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In the standard pretrib time line (not mine), this happens almost at the end of the trib period. That would be about 6 1/2 years approx from the resur/rapt of the church.

So if the resur/rapt happened today, that would mean that the battle would take place almost at the end of 7 years from now.

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Here is the question, If the battle of Armageddon can take place approx 7 years from now, (your timeline)

Could the military actions taking place at this moment, possibly end in a battle 7 years from now in the valley of Armageddon?

Has the WAR of Armageddon, that ends with the BATTLE of Armageddon, have already started?

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Even though you don't see any troops there now, doesn't mean that they are not moving into position.

Even though there are not 200 mill there now, doesn't mean that within 6 1/2 years there won't be.

Even though right now, Israel has some support in the nations, doesn't mean that in 6 1/2 years Israel will still have their support.

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Do you believe that if Jesus came for the kingdom today, that this battle of Armageddon could take place 7 years from today?

If you believe that if Jesus came and the battle COULD take place 7 years from now,

Then understand this,

The battle can take place 7 years from now without Jesus coming first.

It might be a shorter time, or longer, but just knowing that it could take place, believing that it is possible, that it will take place soon,

Should open your eyes to the events that are taking place in the Middle East at this present time.

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You and I will still be here to see this battle take place, if we don't die first.

It might take place in more or less than 7 years.

It could be only a matter of months.

It depends on when Russia, Iran, and the others are GIVEN Israel, because the people who hate Israel are coming to power and are in power.

And they really don't love Israel, even though they pretend to.

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[iamlamad]

2 hours ago, abcdef said:

Yes you are right, I don' see any armies there ,.............YET.

And we both agree that the battle is future.

The question is, how far in the future is it?

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In the standard pretrib time line (not mine), this happens almost at the end of the trib period. That would be about 6 1/2 years approx from the resur/rapt of the church.

So if the resur/rapt happened today, that would mean that the battle would take place almost at the end of 7 years from now.

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Here is the question, If the battle of Armageddon can take place approx 7 years from now, (your timeline)

Could the military actions taking place at this moment, possibly end in a battle 7 years from now in the valley of Armageddon?

Has the WAR of Armageddon, that ends with the BATTLE of Armageddon, have already started?

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Even though you don't see any troops there now, doesn't mean that they are not moving into position.

Even though there are not 200 mill there now, doesn't mean that within 6 1/2 years there won't be.

Even though right now, Israel has some support in the nations, doesn't mean that in 6 1/2 years Israel will still have their support.

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Do you believe that if Jesus came for the kingdom today, that this battle of Armageddon could take place 7 years from today?

If you believe that if Jesus came and the battle COULD take place 7 years from now,

Then understand this,

The battle can take place 7 years from now without Jesus coming first.

It might be a shorter time, or longer, but just knowing that it could take place, believing that it is possible, that it will take place soon,

Should open your eyes to the events that are taking place in the Middle East at this present time.

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You and I will still be here to see this battle take place, if we don't die first.

It might take place in more or less than 7 years.

It could be only a matter of months.

It depends on when Russia, Iran, and the others are GIVEN Israel, because the people who hate Israel are coming to power and are in power.

And they really don't love Israel, even though they pretend to.

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Could the military actions taking place at this moment, possibly end in a battle 7 years from now in the valley of Armageddon?

Has the WAR of Armageddon, that ends with the BATTLE of Armageddon, have already started?  

Where is the WAR? I don't know of any war going on now. 

Do you believe that if Jesus came for the kingdom today, that this battle of Armageddon could take place 7 years from today?  This is a trick question: His NEXT coming is not for a "kingdom" but for His bride. If He came for His bride tonight, the Battle of Armageddon would be a little over 7 years into the future. 

You and I will still be here to see this battle take place, if we don't die first.  You can be if you want to be; I will be in heaven with the bride. But, if you were wise, you could take God's escape plan!

[abcdef]

10 hours ago, iamlamad said:

Could the military actions taking place at this moment, possibly end in a battle 7 years from now in the valley of Armageddon?

Has the WAR of Armageddon, that ends with the BATTLE of Armageddon, have already started?  

Where is the WAR? I don't know of any war going on now. 

Really?

Israel is bombing Syria and the Iranian bases in Syria.

Israel is bombing arms shipments to Hezbollah.

There is artillery exchanges in the Golan heights. 

Israel is shelling Gaza.

If you don't see a war going on you are not paying attention to the Middle East like you should be doing.

Try looking at the news once in a while.

 

10 hours ago, iamlamad said:

Do you believe that if Jesus came for the kingdom today, that this battle of Armageddon could take place 7 years from today?  This is a trick question: His NEXT coming is not for a "kingdom" but for His bride. If He came for His bride tonight, the Battle of Armageddon would be a little over 7 years into the future. 

He is coming for the kingdom. The church/bride/Israel, is the kingdom established on planet earth on the day of Pentecost. 1 Cor 15:23-28

 

10 hours ago, iamlamad said:

You and I will still be here to see this battle take place, if we don't die first.  You can be if you want to be; I will be in heaven with the bride. But, if you were wise, you could take God's escape plan!

The resur/rapt will not happen until AFTER the battle of Armageddon. Rev 16.

You will see it not long from now, months or a few years, I don't know exactly when.

Your mistake is believing that there is a world/planet after Jesus comes for the kingdom.

But after Jesus comes, this planet ends in fire. There will be NO survivors, No second chances to accept Jesus and be saved.

The saving gospel message will never again be heard on this planet.

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The proof of what I am saying is right in front of you. Israel is at war with the kings of the east and the gentile nations Magog.

As time goes by, it will become even more obvious than it is now.

You can deny it until the very end when Jerusalem falls if you want to.

But the truth will be seen, even if you deny it.

 

[abcdef]

On 8/29/2020 at 3:06 PM, iamlamad said:

Does that image still stand? No, it is long gone. The empires that make it up are long gone.

If the image is gone, ended in 476 AD, what is the stone striking?

 

[iamlamad]

1 hour ago, abcdef said:

If the image is gone, ended in 476 AD, what is the stone striking?

I wrote this before:  " the land areas of these Empires STILL ARE - and people live there. There are still traces of the ancient city of Babylon, in Iraq. But today there are over 40 million people in Iraq. That is enough to have a sizable army.  Iran has over 80,000 people today. Sometime in our future a man with an army will take out three nations."

The image was not a real image, it was a dream. It was to represent these empires and their timing. The empires are long gone, but PEOPLE still live there Our God, knowing the future, knew way back then what kind of people would be living there today. In most of the nations that made up that image, the leadership is of a religion that hates Jews and Christians, and so hates the REAL God. 

To find the answer to your question, we must first discover what or where these 10 toes are. There is a website: "The TEN toes: WHO are they?" I have not watched it. We can be very sure, the nations of those ten toes certainly exist today. 

Edited September 1, 2020 by iamlamad

[RonaldBruno]

On 8/15/2020 at 11:08 AM, Revelation Man said:

There is NO HUMAN 200 million man army

The 200 million demons coming out of  the Abyss not only manifest themselves as demon locusts who torture those who have the mark of the beast  for 5 months _  after they are done _ will possess 200 million men, mostly of Islamic nations, to attack Israel. Make no mistake, reprobates are Satan's slaves and will be spiritually influenced to do his will.

[iamlamad]

1 hour ago, abcdef said:

Really?

Israel is bombing Syria and the Iranian bases in Syria.

Israel is bombing arms shipments to Hezbollah.

There is artillery exchanges in the Golan heights. 

Israel is shelling Gaza.

If you don't see a war going on you are not paying attention to the Middle East like you should be doing.

Try looking at the news once in a while.

 

He is coming for the kingdom. The church/bride/Israel, is the kingdom established on planet earth on the day of Pentecost. 1 Cor 15:23-28

 

The resur/rapt will not happen until AFTER the battle of Armageddon. Rev 16.

You will see it not long from now, months or a few years, I don't know exactly when.

Your mistake is believing that there is a world/planet after Jesus comes for the kingdom.

But after Jesus comes, this planet ends in fire. There will be NO survivors, No second chances to accept Jesus and be saved.

The saving gospel message will never again be heard on this planet.

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The proof of what I am saying is right in front of you. Israel is at war with the kings of the east and the gentile nations Magog.

As time goes by, it will become even more obvious than it is now.

You can deny it until the very end when Jerusalem falls if you want to.

But the truth will be seen, even if you deny it.

 

If you don't see a war going on you are not paying attention to the Middle East like you should be doing.  Skirmishes, not war. 

He is coming for the kingdom. The church/bride/Israel, is the kingdom established on planet earth on the day of Pentecost.  You are trying to force TWO comings into one: it does not work. His next coming is ONLY to air, and then back to heaven. It is ONLY to collect His bride and take her to the homes He has prepared. 

The resur/rapt will not happen until AFTER the battle of Armageddon.  So show is the scripture of Paul's rapture after Armageddon.  Paul tells us his gathering will be BEFORE wrath, not after it! You are over 7 years off. 

Your mistake is believing that there is a world/planet after Jesus comes for the kingdom.  Your mistake is ignoring Christ's 1000 year reign. You really need to read these passages a little more carefully and without preconceived glasses on. 

But after Jesus comes, this planet ends in fire. There will be NO survivors, No second chances to accept Jesus and be saved.  Then explain those in natural bodies that enter the millennial reign. 

The saving gospel message will never again be heard on this planet.  The "everlasting Gospel" will be preached by angels as seen in Rev. 14. Since it is everlasting, it is sure to be preached during the millennial reign. 

Without a doubt, REAL war will break out soon. I suspect it will turn into World War III

[Revelation Man]

12 hours ago, RonaldBruno said:

The 200 million demons coming out of  the Abyss not only manifest themselves as demon locusts who torture those who have the mark of the beast  for 5 months _  after they are done _ will possess 200 million men, mostly of Islamic nations, to attack Israel. Make no mistake, reprobates are Satan's slaves and will be spiritually influenced to do his will.

Look at Rev. 9 again, you are in the WRONG WOE.......Woe #1 is the Demons who harm mankind for 5 months but are FORBIDDEN from killing anyone. The 200 Million are an Angelic Army of God given the go ahead to SLAY 1/3 of those who have the Mark of the Beast. Satan doesn't kill Satan, a House divided against itself can not stand. Verse 2-0 or 21 says its a PLAGUE from  God.

Revelation 9:20 And the rest of the men which were not killed by these plagues yet repented not of the works of their hands, that they should not worship devils, and idols of gold, and silver, and brass, and stone, and of wood: which neither can see, nor hear, nor walk 21 Neither repented they of their murders, nor of their sorceries, nor of their fornication, nor of their thefts.

In the 2nd Woe they have DIFFERENT BREASTPLATES also: 

Rev. 9:9 And they had breastplates, as it were breastplates of iron; and the sound of their wings was as the sound of chariots of many horses running to battle.

The Angels are not BOUND UP in the River Euphrates, they are BOUND to a DAY........YEAR.........and a MONTH !! It says so, they are BOUND to an APPOINTED TIME at the River Euphrates, to kill 1/3 of all mankind who have TAKEN the Mark of the Beast. Satan will not kill Satan.

Revelation 9:15 And the four angels were loosed(Go forth), which were prepared for an hour, and a day, and a month, and a year(Go FORTH), for to slay the third part of men. 16 And the number of the army of the horsemen were two hundred thousand thousand: and I heard the number of them.

17 And thus I saw the horses in the vision, and them that sat on them, having breastplates of fire, and of jacinth, and brimstone(Go look at the Jewish High Priests BREADTPLATE, its the exact same colors): and the heads of the horses were as the heads of lions(The Lion of Judah); and out of their mouths issued fire and smoke and brimstone(JUDGMENTS of God). 18 By these three was the third part of men killed, by the fire, and by the smoke, and by the brimstone, which issued out of their mouths.

What does the Asteroid bring upon Mankind? Fire, Smoke and Brimstone !! The 200 Million Army of God are His Messengers. They make all of God's orders come to pass.