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4 hours ago, iamlamad said:

It's useless to post against imagination. Total waste of time. 

 

The war of Armageddon has already started.

The final battle of Armageddon will take place soon, a few years, months maybe.

Israel will lose and Jerusalem will fall.

After that Jesus will come.

After the 7th trumpet, this planet ends in fire.

There are no more chances to be saved after the resur/rapt.

The gospel message will never be heard again on this planet turned to fire.

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Just look at the Middle East and Israel.

See the reality there.

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You are stuck at the 5th seal. You think that the 6th seal is the day of the Lord.

I agree, but it is the day of the Lord against 70 AD Jerusalem, and not the end in fire of the final day.

We are 1900 years past the 6th seal 70 AD event.

We are just before the 7th trumpet,

Where Jerusalem is surrounded by the 200 mill army from across the Euphrates River.

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This is it!

Wake up!

Light the darkness with the gospel message, Jesus is coming!

These coming days are souls last chance to be saved.


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7 hours ago, wingnut- said:

 

I know it says that.  I am not given over to my imagination.

 

 

LOL and yet it says angels, major fail on your part.  As I said previously, I know you are given over to your own imagination and I'm not posting for your benefit, others can read for themselves.  All I know is it is time for Christians to walk in victory and let go of imagination.

Demons are FALLEN ANGELS.......Did you not know that? Why all the simplistic semantics ? Dude people are shaking their head at you arguing that Angelic Beings that fell and thus sinned are not Demons. 

 

7 hours ago, wingnut- said:

I know it says that.  I am not given over to my imagination.

 

You can't out debate me on anything brother so you might as well quit trying. I think you have looking at these answers. You sure can't win a debate saying fallen angels are not demons. 


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11 hours ago, abcdef said:

 

The war of Armageddon has already started.

The final battle of Armageddon will take place soon, a few years, months maybe.

Israel will lose and Jerusalem will fall.

After that Jesus will come.

After the 7th trumpet, this planet ends in fire.

There are no more chances to be saved after the resur/rapt.

The gospel message will never be heard again on this planet turned to fire.

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Just look at the Middle East and Israel.

See the reality there.

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You are stuck at the 5th seal. You think that the 6th seal is the day of the Lord.

I agree, but it is the day of the Lord against 70 AD Jerusalem, and not the end in fire of the final day.

We are 1900 years past the 6th seal 70 AD event.

We are just before the 7th trumpet,

Where Jerusalem is surrounded by the 200 mill army from across the Euphrates River.

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This is it!

Wake up!

Light the darkness with the gospel message, Jesus is coming!

These coming days are souls last chance to be saved.

Realistically, THE WHOLE WORLD will know when Armageddon starts, for perhaps 70 nations will all send troops to Israel, to wipe them off the map. Did you not read the 6th vial?


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8 hours ago, iamlamad said:

Realistically, THE WHOLE WORLD will know when Armageddon starts, for perhaps 70 nations will all send troops to Israel, to wipe them off the map. Did you not read the 6th vial?

Don't you realize that this event is happening right now? Exactly as you have described it in your response?

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 The 6th trumpet has blown and the 6th vial has been poured out on the people of the Euphrates River.

The Roman Empire beast (iron in Dan.2, 4th beast in Dan.7) Vatican has ALREADY deceived the kings of the east Iran.

The deception is the Vatican-Iran treaty already signed years ago. (Look it up)

It gives the RCC certain allowances after Jerusalem falls, meaning that the Vatican approves the end of Israel and will not oppose it.

You may ask, "Why would the Vatican want Israel destroyed?"

Because right now there are 2 Israels, one the true Israel, and the Vatican who claims that they are exclusively Israel and that they have replaced Israel.

With the true Israel destroyed, the Vatican can claim the title of true Israel again, with the proof being that if the restored to Jerusalem Israel is destroyed, that would mean Israel is not God's people, but the Vatican is. 

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See that Jerusalem and Israel is surrounded right now.

You may be thinking like millions of others that the Magog battle of Rev 20 that ends in fire is hundreds of years away.

It is in front of you, the war of Armageddon between Israel, the kings of the east, and Magog has already started. The battle of Armageddon that ends it will happen soon. Israel will lose.

The 6th trumpet has already sounded, the winds of destruction are already blowing across the Euphrates towards Jerusalem.

The 6th vial is already poured out on the people of the Euphrates region (the waters are people Rev 17) and the kings of the east are crossing the Euphrates towards Jerusalem.

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Add together all the people who are working to destroy Israel, Iran, Iraq, Syria, Lebanon, Egypt, Russia, all Islam, and the Roman Empire RCC.

It's more than the 200 mill needed to fulfill the prophecies.

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Posted
10 hours ago, iamlamad said:

Realistically, THE WHOLE WORLD will know when Armageddon starts, for perhaps 70 nations will all send troops to Israel, to wipe them off the map. Did you not read the 6th vial?

1-7 seals, .......37 AD, Israel rejects the Pentecost gospel kingdom....... until........70 AD, Jerusalem falls, the 6th seal is the 67-70 AD destruction day of the Lord.

1/2 hour of silence........ The time between the 70 AD destruction............. and the giving of the Revelation, 85-96 AD ish.

1-4 trumpets...........70 AD....... until....... 1967 When Jerusalem is restored to Israel.

5th trumpet......1929....The city/state/nation of the Roman Empire is reborn, the Roman Empire is alive again.

6th trumpet.......9/11/01..... The power and strength of Iraq is "dried up" as a result of the trumpet. Iran, the winds of destruction, now begin to attack Jerusalem.

7th trumpet.......3 1/2 days after Jerusalem falls to the kings of the east Iran and the forces of Magog gentile nations Russia, etc.

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The vials are in a parallel time line but are centered on the Roman beast.

The 5th trumpet shows the Roman Empire returning from the place of the dead 1929,

The 5th vial shows the "seat of the beast" in 1929 Vatican, when the Roman Empire beast comes out of the abyss to live again, returning to sit on the exact same place that he sat 2000 years ago. 

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The 6th trumpet shows the army of false teachers (Islam and Iran), crossing the Euphrates River to surround Jerusalem that is restored to Israel.

The 6th vial shows that armies attack after Iraq is dried up, 2003 and after.

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The 7th trumpet shows Jesus taking possession of the kingdom before the stone strikes the statue of Dan. 2.

The 7th vial shows the stone striking and the result is the complete destruction of planet earth and the end of human life on this planet, which is turned into a planet of fire.

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You see, when you put the separate time lines together, in the correct order, then you see that the end is near,......here, maybe months, I don't know.

After Jerusalem falls, 3 1/2 days later Jesus will come.

Then the planet is fire.

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It's kind of funny to me,

That everyone is saying, "It's the end, it's the end."

And then when someone comes and says "hey wake up, it really is the end, " 

then they say "no, it's not really the end, it's only the end of the church/kingdom on planet earth, there is over a thousand years to go before the actual end."

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Now I will tell you a truth,

Preterism and pretrib are both designed to steer people to one conclusion.

That is, that the Bishop of Rome (BoR) is not the Antichrist. (He is the Antichrist.)

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Think about this,

Both pretrib and preterism leave out the history of 70 AD through our present time.

Preterism says that there is nothing at all after 70 AD, the entire Bible is fulfilled. 

Pretrib says that there is a prophetical "gap" and leaves out the period after 70 AD until now.

Both of these theories would bring someone to the conclusion that the BoR is not the Antichrist, because he would either been in the past, one of the Caesars of the time or future to us even today.

But the statue of Dan. 2 PROVES that there is no gap in the prophetic time line.

The iron legs/toes are continual and show NO GAP in the time line of the iron.

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Here are the questions that no one wants to answer,

Who was the iron nation of the iron legs/toes 2000 years ago?

Who was the iron nation 1000 years ago?

 Who was the iron nation 500 years ago?

Who is the iron nation RIGHT NOW?

There are no gaps in the statue.

The answer to all of these questions is Rome, Caesar and the Caesar worshipers.

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And you may be thinking, "Why didn't they just say that the beast is Rome?"

Because it was death to speak against Rome and Caesar, and the Bishop of Rome.

The Revelation was written with the symbolic language of the OT.

Only those who knew the scriptures would understand the symbols and know that the beast was Rome, the iron of Dan. 2 and the 4th beast of Dan. 7.

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So both timelines are not correct because the purposefully leave or create a gap where there is none, in the statue of Dan. 2.

I know that this is the opposite of what you have been taught,

But really, really, look at the statue and see the reality of the truth,

There is no gap in the iron of the statue.

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This means that the beast is Caesar and Rome, and the Bishop of Rome.

If the beast of Rome Antichrist has been here since the invasion of Israel and Jerusalem, it means that both theories are based on a incorrect time line.

 


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On 8/23/2020 at 8:55 PM, abcdef said:

 

The war of Armageddon has already started.

The final battle of Armageddon will take place soon, a few years, months maybe.

Israel will lose and Jerusalem will fall.

After that Jesus will come.

After the 7th trumpet, this planet ends in fire.

There are no more chances to be saved after the resur/rapt.

The gospel message will never be heard again on this planet turned to fire.

-----

Just look at the Middle East and Israel.

See the reality there.

-----

You are stuck at the 5th seal. You think that the 6th seal is the day of the Lord.

I agree, but it is the day of the Lord against 70 AD Jerusalem, and not the end in fire of the final day.

We are 1900 years past the 6th seal 70 AD event.

We are just before the 7th trumpet,

Where Jerusalem is surrounded by the 200 mill army from across the Euphrates River.

-------

This is it!

Wake up!

Light the darkness with the gospel message, Jesus is coming!

These coming days are souls last chance to be saved.

Wake up readers: this post is mostly MYTH. We are still in the church age and will remain so until the rapture: THEN the end comes with the stat of the DAy of the Lord, then the 70th week. Armegeddon will not come until JESUS RETURNS "AFTER the tribulation of those days." "Those days" of "tribulation" are ahead of us, not behind us.  We can't use imagination to understand Revelation: we must stick to the TEXT.


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3 minutes ago, iamlamad said:

Wake up readers: this post is mostly MYTH. We are still in the church age and will remain so until the rapture: THEN the end comes with the stat of the DAy of the Lord, then the 70th week. Armegeddon will not come until JESUS RETURNS "AFTER the tribulation of those days." "Those days" of "tribulation" are ahead of us, not behind us.  We can't use imagination to understand Revelation: we must stick to the TEXT.

I see that you did not answer the questions that I asked, Can you?

Who was the iron of the statue in Dan. 2, two thousand years ago, five hundred years ago, right now??

Can you answer?

 

The reason that  you will not answer is because that you would admit that there is no gap in the iron of the Dan. 2 timeline, proving that the Antichrist has been here all that time.

Proving yourself that the pretrib timeline is false.

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Answer the questions if you can.


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Posted
18 minutes ago, iamlamad said:

Wake up readers: this post is mostly MYTH. We are still in the church age and will remain so until the rapture: THEN the end comes with the stat of the DAy of the Lord, then the 70th week. Armegeddon will not come until JESUS RETURNS "AFTER the tribulation of those days." "Those days" of "tribulation" are ahead of us, not behind us.  We can't use imagination to understand Revelation: we must stick to the TEXT.

The great tribulation was on the people of Israel from 70 AD until 1967 when Jerusalem was restored to Israel.

It is history not future.

That is why pretrib must "skip over" this time period.

Because it proves that Rome, Caesar, and the Bishop of Rome, are the beast and the Antichrist.

And that they are past and present.

 


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Posted
25 minutes ago, iamlamad said:

Wake up readers: this post is mostly MYTH. We are still in the church age and will remain so until the rapture: THEN the end comes with the stat of the DAy of the Lord, then the 70th week. Armegeddon will not come until JESUS RETURNS "AFTER the tribulation of those days." "Those days" of "tribulation" are ahead of us, not behind us.  We can't use imagination to understand Revelation: we must stick to the TEXT.

 The War of Armageddon is happening in front of you.

The battle of Armageddon that ends the war is soon to happen.

You are just on the wrong time line.

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