Tongues?

[Waggles]

2 hours ago, enoob57 said:

Now my point- tongues of today are vacated from reason and feelings is the promotion point of their use! So how can a person be obedient to God in trying of spirits if reasoning through verbal communication is blocked and the emotional aspects are all that can be ascertained?

And how is praying in tongues emotional? 

Rather it is spiritual and done in the power of the Holy Spirit. 

I do not get emotional when praying in the Spirit, but I do get refreshed. 

Isa 28:11  For by people of strange lips and with a foreign tongue the LORD will speak to this people, 
12  to whom he has said, “This is rest; give rest to the weary; and this is repose”; yet they would not hear. 

[enoob57]

4 hours ago, Waggles said:

And how is praying in tongues emotional? 

Because it is not based on reason as no one knows what they are saying... but they feel refreshed which is an emotional response...

4 hours ago, Waggles said:

do not get emotional when praying in the Spirit, but I do get refreshed. 

point above...

4 hours ago, Waggles said:

Isa 28:11  For by people of strange lips and with a foreign tongue the LORD will speak to this people, 
12  to whom he has said, “This is rest; give rest to the weary; and this is repose”; yet they would not hear. 

This passage Isa 28:5-13 is in reference to the rejection of God’s Prophet… if you don’t understand my Prophet – then you will hear the Assyrian language…
(cf. Isa 28:13; 33:19; Jer 5:15). Paul quotes this verse in 1 Cor 14:21 in his discussion of "speaking in tongues."

[Waggles]

6 minutes ago, enoob57 said:

Because it is not based on reason as no one knows what they are saying... but they feel refreshed which is an emotional response...

Good grief, what twaddle.

[Justin Adams]

2 minutes ago, Waggles said:

Good grief, what twaddle.

Is that 'revival' twaddle, or 'spiritual' twaddle.

Or is it meant to convey 'I have no coherent answer to that'.

[David1701]

8 hours ago, enoob57 said:

Because it is not based on reason as no one knows what they are saying... but they feel refreshed which is an emotional response...

You can feel spiritually refreshed, without reference to emotions.  You sense it ("feel" it - "feel" has more than one usage).  Of course, it's likely that an emotion like gladness or contentment will accompany this sense of having been refreshed, but the sense of having been refreshed spiritually is not, in itself, an emotion.

Regarding speaking in tongues: it bypasses the mind, which can be very useful; and I can attest that it does lead to spiritual refreshing.  It also often leads to closer fellowship with the Lord and to Holy Spirit led prayers and praise, in your own language.

Jackie Pullinger (see the book "Chasing the Dragon"), a famous missionary to Hong Kong, said that God led her to speak in tongues for 15 mins, every day.  For months, she felt nothing, but good things kept happening.

The gift of tongues (and all the other gifts) are still in operation; but, unbelief prevents many denominations and individuals from entering in to the fulness of what God has for his people.

Edited January 31, 2021 by David1701
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[Duck]

3 hours ago, David1701 said:

Jackie Pullinger (see the book "Chasing the Dragon"), a famous missionary to Hong Kong, said that God led her to speak in tongues for 15 mins, every day.  For months, she felt nothing, but good things kept happening.

We went to one of her meetings. She got the whole place to stand up and talk gibberish at the same time! There were hundreds of people there. Utter madness!

[David1701]

58 minutes ago, Duck said:

We went to one of her meetings. She got the whole place to stand up and talk gibberish at the same time! There were hundreds of people there. Utter madness!

I don't agree with people all talking in tongues at once.  I agree with you that that is confusion and that people will think it's mad (in fact, I've seen it happen - unbelievers visiting such a meeting and saying that they're all mad).

Everyone makes mistakes; but she is a godly woman, who has borne much fruit.

[Alive]

1 hour ago, Duck said:

We went to one of her meetings. She got the whole place to stand up and talk gibberish at the same time! There were hundreds of people there. Utter madness!

In all my years, I have never once seen anything like this in a meeting.

I could probably count on one hand the times someone spoke in tongues in a meeting.

Just saying.

[Duck]

13 minutes ago, Chicken coop2 said:

Perhaps they were all using a prayer language to speak one on one with God. 

Many Americans, unfortunately, when hearing people speak in foreign language refer to it as gibberish. 

There was a man with us (unfortunately we joined in) speaking his native Russian, and she came over and said ‘are you speaking your own language’ he replied yes, she reprovingly said ‘speak in tongues’!

i’ll tell you the truth, if there is such a gift, in our age, that meeting ruined it for us.

Some old Christian friends of ours had already left ‘before the silliness began’ As they put it. We should have joined them instead 

[Duck]

28 minutes ago, David1701 said:

I don't agree with people all talking in tongues at once.  I agree with you that that is confusion and that people will think it's mad (in fact, I've seen it happen - unbelievers visiting such a meeting and saying that they're all mad).

Everyone makes mistakes; but she is a godly woman, who has borne much fruit.

Fair enough