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The last feast of the Jewish year was the “feast of tabernacles” which is a prophesy of the harvest of the righteous. This eight day feast begins with a holy convocation in the wilderness followed by the final holy convocation when a solemn assembly(rapture/resurrection) takes place on the 8th day:

Leviticus 23:34-36 Speak unto the children of Israel, saying, On the fifteenth day of this seventh month is the feast of tabernacles for seven days unto Jehovah. (35) On the first day shall be a holy convocation: ye shall do no servile work. (36) Seven days ye shall offer an offering made by fire unto Jehovah: on the eighth day shall be a holy convocation unto you; and ye shall offer an offering made by fire unto Jehovah: it is a solemn assembly; ye shall do no servile work.

For more understanding on who are part of this solemn assembly please see this link:

https://sumofthyword.com/2019/03/16/psalm-82-the-congregation-of-god/

The “feast of tabernacles” is also called the “feast of ingathering” at the end of the year when the final harvest is brought in from the field:

Exodus 23:16 and the feast of harvest, the first-fruits of thy labors, which thou sowest in the field: and the feast of ingathering, at the end of the year, when thou gatherest in thy labors out of the field.

Exodus 34:22 And thou shalt observe the feast of weeks, even of the first-fruits of wheat harvest, and the feast of ingathering at the year’s end.

Jesus called the field the world:

Matthew 13:38 and the field is the world; and the good seed, these are the sons of the kingdom; and the tares are the sons of the evil one;

Jesus is letting both the wheat and the tares grow together in the world until the tribulation commences. Then 7 years of increasing tribulation will prove the wheat from the tares. The tares will be gathered up FIRST into bundles for the fires of hell:

Matthew 13:30 Let both grow together until the harvest: and in the time of the harvest I will say to the reapers, Gather up first the tares, and bind them in bundles to burn them; but gather the wheat into my barn.

Then the saints are gathered from all over the world by the rapture/resurrection into our ONE solemn assembly out of the field and in the clouds with our savior Jesus:

Matthew 13:41-43 The Son of man shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that cause stumbling, and them that do iniquity, (42) and shall cast them into the furnace of fire: there shall be the weeping and the gnashing of teeth. (43) Then shall the righteous shine forth as the sun in the kingdom of their Father. He that hath ears, let him hear.

As we come out of the world we are to enter into the rest in our seven year wilderness before we enter our promised final rest on the 8th day/year:

Leviticus 23:39-43 Howbeit on the fifteenth day of the seventh month, when ye have gathered in the fruits of the land, ye shall keep the feast of Jehovah seven days: on the first day shall be a solemn rest, and on the eighth day shall be a solemn rest. (40) And ye shall take you on the first day the fruit of goodly trees, branches of palm-trees, and boughs of thick trees, and willows of the brook; and ye shall rejoice before Jehovah your God seven days. (41) And ye shall keep it a feast unto Jehovah seven days in the year: it is a statute for ever throughout your generations; ye shall keep it in the seventh month. (42) Ye shall dwell in booths seven days; all that are home-born in Israel shall dwell in booths; (43) that your generations may know that I made the children of Israel to dwell in booths, when I brought them out of the land of Egypt: I am Jehovah your God.

Nehemiah 8:18 Also day by day, from the first day unto the last day, he read in the book of the law of God. And they kept the feast seven days; and on the eighth day was a solemn assembly, according unto the ordinance.

Hebrews 4:9-11 There remaineth therefore a sabbath rest for the people of God. (10) For he that is entered into his rest hath himself also rested from his works, as God did from his. (11) Let us therefore give diligence to enter into that rest, that no man fall after the same example of disobedience.

This solemn rest on the eighth day as well as Abraham being told to circumcise the flesh on the eighth day both represent our rapture/resurrection when our corruptible flesh will be cut off for the last time as we gather in the clouds at the last trump:

Genesis 17:12 And he that is eight days old shall be circumcised among you, every male throughout your generations, he that is born in the house, or bought with money of any foreigner that is not of thy seed.

1 Corinthians 15:50-54 Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption. (51) Behold, I tell you a mystery: We all shall not sleep, but we shall all be changed, (52) in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed. (53) For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality. (54) But when this corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and this mortal shall have put on immortality, then shall come to pass the saying that is written, Death is swallowed up in victory.

Those “booths” the Jews were told to dwell in during the feast of tabernacles in type represent our personal temple where the Holy Spirit dwells within us:

1 Corinthians 3:16-17 Know ye not that ye are the temple of God, and that the Spirit of God dwelleth in you? (17) If any man defile the temple of God, him shall God destroy; for the temple of God is holy, which temple ye are.

The tribulation will prove who will be the tares that fall away in disobedience and who will be the wheat that enters the kingdom of God:

Acts 14:22 Confirming the souls of the disciples, and exhorting them to continue in the faith, and that we must through much tribulation enter into the kingdom of God.

Peter clearly said that the church must be the first to go through fiery trials to prove if we will obey the gospel:

1 Peter 4:12-19 Beloved, think it not strange concerning the fiery trial among you, which cometh upon you to prove you, as though a strange thing happened unto you: (13) but insomuch as ye are partakers of Christ’s sufferings, rejoice; that at the revelation of his glory also ye may rejoice with exceeding joy. (14) If ye are reproached for the name of Christ, blessed are ye; because the Spirit of glory and the Spirit of God resteth upon you. (15) For let none of you suffer as a murderer, or a thief, or an evil-doer, or as a meddler in other men’s matters: (16) but if a man suffer as a Christian, let him not be ashamed; but let him glorify God in this name. (17) For the time is come for judgment to begin at the house of God: and if it begin first at us, what shall be the end of them that obey not the gospel of God? (18) And if the righteous is scarcely saved, where shall the ungodly and sinner appear? (19) Wherefore let them also that suffer according to the will of God commit their souls in well-doing unto a faithful Creator.

The post above is just a small sample of all the scriptural proofs found for a post trib rapture in this link:

https://sumofthyword.com/2016/10/04/the-rapture-of-the-church-is-after-the-tribulation/

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18 minutes ago, Moby said:

 

The tribulation will prove who will be the tares that fall away in disobedience and who will be the wheat that enters the kingdom of God:

 

I see the tribulation that will prove who will be the tares that fall away in disobedience, and who will be the wheat that enters the kingdom of God, pertaining to when the Lord will once again shake not only the earth, but also heaven. Those with little faith in the Word, having little root in the Word, will therefore fall away when things get rough.

Hebrews 12:26 Whose voice then shook the earth: but now he hath promised, saying, Yet once more I shake not the earth only, but also heaven. 27 And this word, Yet once more, signifieth the removing of those things that are shaken, as of things that are made, that those things which cannot be shaken may remain.

Matthew 13:21 Yet hath he not root in himself, but dureth for a while: for when tribulation or persecution ariseth because of the word, by and by he is offended.


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3 hours ago, Moby said:

The last feast of the Jewish year was the “feast of tabernacles” which is a prophesy of the harvest of the righteous. This eight day feast begins with a holy convocation in the wilderness followed by the final holy convocation when a solemn assembly(rapture/resurrection) takes place on the 8th day:

Leviticus 23:34-36 Speak unto the children of Israel, saying, On the fifteenth day of this seventh month is the feast of tabernacles for seven days unto Jehovah. (35) On the first day shall be a holy convocation: ye shall do no servile work. (36) Seven days ye shall offer an offering made by fire unto Jehovah: on the eighth day shall be a holy convocation unto you; and ye shall offer an offering made by fire unto Jehovah: it is a solemn assembly; ye shall do no servile work.

For more understanding on who are part of this solemn assembly please see this link:

https://sumofthyword.com/2019/03/16/psalm-82-the-congregation-of-god/

The “feast of tabernacles” is also called the “feast of ingathering” at the end of the year when the final harvest is brought in from the field:

Exodus 23:16 and the feast of harvest, the first-fruits of thy labors, which thou sowest in the field: and the feast of ingathering, at the end of the year, when thou gatherest in thy labors out of the field.

Exodus 34:22 And thou shalt observe the feast of weeks, even of the first-fruits of wheat harvest, and the feast of ingathering at the year’s end.

Jesus called the field the world:

Matthew 13:38 and the field is the world; and the good seed, these are the sons of the kingdom; and the tares are the sons of the evil one;

Jesus is letting both the wheat and the tares grow together in the world until the tribulation commences. Then 7 years of increasing tribulation will prove the wheat from the tares. The tares will be gathered up FIRST into bundles for the fires of hell:

Matthew 13:30 Let both grow together until the harvest: and in the time of the harvest I will say to the reapers, Gather up first the tares, and bind them in bundles to burn them; but gather the wheat into my barn.

Then the saints are gathered from all over the world by the rapture/resurrection into our ONE solemn assembly out of the field and in the clouds with our savior Jesus:

Matthew 13:41-43 The Son of man shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that cause stumbling, and them that do iniquity, (42) and shall cast them into the furnace of fire: there shall be the weeping and the gnashing of teeth. (43) Then shall the righteous shine forth as the sun in the kingdom of their Father. He that hath ears, let him hear.

As we come out of the world we are to enter into the rest in our seven year wilderness before we enter our promised final rest on the 8th day/year:

Leviticus 23:39-43 Howbeit on the fifteenth day of the seventh month, when ye have gathered in the fruits of the land, ye shall keep the feast of Jehovah seven days: on the first day shall be a solemn rest, and on the eighth day shall be a solemn rest. (40) And ye shall take you on the first day the fruit of goodly trees, branches of palm-trees, and boughs of thick trees, and willows of the brook; and ye shall rejoice before Jehovah your God seven days. (41) And ye shall keep it a feast unto Jehovah seven days in the year: it is a statute for ever throughout your generations; ye shall keep it in the seventh month. (42) Ye shall dwell in booths seven days; all that are home-born in Israel shall dwell in booths; (43) that your generations may know that I made the children of Israel to dwell in booths, when I brought them out of the land of Egypt: I am Jehovah your God.

Nehemiah 8:18 Also day by day, from the first day unto the last day, he read in the book of the law of God. And they kept the feast seven days; and on the eighth day was a solemn assembly, according unto the ordinance.

Hebrews 4:9-11 There remaineth therefore a sabbath rest for the people of God. (10) For he that is entered into his rest hath himself also rested from his works, as God did from his. (11) Let us therefore give diligence to enter into that rest, that no man fall after the same example of disobedience.

This solemn rest on the eighth day as well as Abraham being told to circumcise the flesh on the eighth day both represent our rapture/resurrection when our corruptible flesh will be cut off for the last time as we gather in the clouds at the last trump:

Genesis 17:12 And he that is eight days old shall be circumcised among you, every male throughout your generations, he that is born in the house, or bought with money of any foreigner that is not of thy seed.

1 Corinthians 15:50-54 Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption. (51) Behold, I tell you a mystery: We all shall not sleep, but we shall all be changed, (52) in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed. (53) For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality. (54) But when this corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and this mortal shall have put on immortality, then shall come to pass the saying that is written, Death is swallowed up in victory.

Those “booths” the Jews were told to dwell in during the feast of tabernacles in type represent our personal temple where the Holy Spirit dwells within us:

1 Corinthians 3:16-17 Know ye not that ye are the temple of God, and that the Spirit of God dwelleth in you? (17) If any man defile the temple of God, him shall God destroy; for the temple of God is holy, which temple ye are.

The tribulation will prove who will be the tares that fall away in disobedience and who will be the wheat that enters the kingdom of God:

Acts 14:22 Confirming the souls of the disciples, and exhorting them to continue in the faith, and that we must through much tribulation enter into the kingdom of God.

Peter clearly said that the church must be the first to go through fiery trials to prove if we will obey the gospel:

1 Peter 4:12-19 Beloved, think it not strange concerning the fiery trial among you, which cometh upon you to prove you, as though a strange thing happened unto you: (13) but insomuch as ye are partakers of Christ’s sufferings, rejoice; that at the revelation of his glory also ye may rejoice with exceeding joy. (14) If ye are reproached for the name of Christ, blessed are ye; because the Spirit of glory and the Spirit of God resteth upon you. (15) For let none of you suffer as a murderer, or a thief, or an evil-doer, or as a meddler in other men’s matters: (16) but if a man suffer as a Christian, let him not be ashamed; but let him glorify God in this name. (17) For the time is come for judgment to begin at the house of God: and if it begin first at us, what shall be the end of them that obey not the gospel of God? (18) And if the righteous is scarcely saved, where shall the ungodly and sinner appear? (19) Wherefore let them also that suffer according to the will of God commit their souls in well-doing unto a faithful Creator.

The post above is just a small sample of all the scriptural proofs found for a post trib rapture in this link:

https://sumofthyword.com/2016/10/04/the-rapture-of-the-church-is-after-the-tribulation/

I'm not seeing a day is as a year to the lord. I don't know where you are getting a 7 year tribulation out of this. 

 


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1 hour ago, Shilohsfoal said:

I'm not seeing a day is as a year to the lord. I don't know where you are getting a 7 year tribulation out of this. 

 

Did you study this link at the bottom of my post as it is loaded with so many precepts that when brought together clearly prove when the rapture/resurrection happens within the feast of Tabernacles:

https://sumofthyword.com/2016/10/04/the-rapture-of-the-church-is-after-the-tribulation/

That link is entirely too long to copy and post and 80% scripture by volume so Rob is clearly not giving his opinion but amassing the multitudes of witnesses that prove his thesis:

https://sumofthyword.com/

It absolutely amazes me how many people on forums I have visited refuse to open a link!?!


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20 hours ago, Moby said:

The last feast of the Jewish year was the “feast of tabernacles” which is a prophesy of the harvest of the righteous. This eight day feast begins with a holy convocation in the wilderness followed by the final holy convocation when a solemn assembly(rapture/resurrection) takes place on the 8th day:

Leviticus 23:34-36 Speak unto the children of Israel, saying, On the fifteenth day of this seventh month is the feast of tabernacles for seven days unto Jehovah. (35) On the first day shall be a holy convocation: ye shall do no servile work. (36) Seven days ye shall offer an offering made by fire unto Jehovah: on the eighth day shall be a holy convocation unto you; and ye shall offer an offering made by fire unto Jehovah: it is a solemn assembly; ye shall do no servile work.

For more understanding on who are part of this solemn assembly please see this link:

https://sumofthyword.com/2019/03/16/psalm-82-the-congregation-of-god/

The “feast of tabernacles” is also called the “feast of ingathering” at the end of the year when the final harvest is brought in from the field:

Exodus 23:16 and the feast of harvest, the first-fruits of thy labors, which thou sowest in the field: and the feast of ingathering, at the end of the year, when thou gatherest in thy labors out of the field.

Exodus 34:22 And thou shalt observe the feast of weeks, even of the first-fruits of wheat harvest, and the feast of ingathering at the year’s end.

Jesus called the field the world:

Matthew 13:38 and the field is the world; and the good seed, these are the sons of the kingdom; and the tares are the sons of the evil one;

Jesus is letting both the wheat and the tares grow together in the world until the tribulation commences. Then 7 years of increasing tribulation will prove the wheat from the tares. The tares will be gathered up FIRST into bundles for the fires of hell:

Matthew 13:30 Let both grow together until the harvest: and in the time of the harvest I will say to the reapers, Gather up first the tares, and bind them in bundles to burn them; but gather the wheat into my barn.

Then the saints are gathered from all over the world by the rapture/resurrection into our ONE solemn assembly out of the field and in the clouds with our savior Jesus:

Matthew 13:41-43 The Son of man shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that cause stumbling, and them that do iniquity, (42) and shall cast them into the furnace of fire: there shall be the weeping and the gnashing of teeth. (43) Then shall the righteous shine forth as the sun in the kingdom of their Father. He that hath ears, let him hear.

As we come out of the world we are to enter into the rest in our seven year wilderness before we enter our promised final rest on the 8th day/year:

Leviticus 23:39-43 Howbeit on the fifteenth day of the seventh month, when ye have gathered in the fruits of the land, ye shall keep the feast of Jehovah seven days: on the first day shall be a solemn rest, and on the eighth day shall be a solemn rest. (40) And ye shall take you on the first day the fruit of goodly trees, branches of palm-trees, and boughs of thick trees, and willows of the brook; and ye shall rejoice before Jehovah your God seven days. (41) And ye shall keep it a feast unto Jehovah seven days in the year: it is a statute for ever throughout your generations; ye shall keep it in the seventh month. (42) Ye shall dwell in booths seven days; all that are home-born in Israel shall dwell in booths; (43) that your generations may know that I made the children of Israel to dwell in booths, when I brought them out of the land of Egypt: I am Jehovah your God.

Nehemiah 8:18 Also day by day, from the first day unto the last day, he read in the book of the law of God. And they kept the feast seven days; and on the eighth day was a solemn assembly, according unto the ordinance.

Hebrews 4:9-11 There remaineth therefore a sabbath rest for the people of God. (10) For he that is entered into his rest hath himself also rested from his works, as God did from his. (11) Let us therefore give diligence to enter into that rest, that no man fall after the same example of disobedience.

This solemn rest on the eighth day as well as Abraham being told to circumcise the flesh on the eighth day both represent our rapture/resurrection when our corruptible flesh will be cut off for the last time as we gather in the clouds at the last trump:

Genesis 17:12 And he that is eight days old shall be circumcised among you, every male throughout your generations, he that is born in the house, or bought with money of any foreigner that is not of thy seed.

1 Corinthians 15:50-54 Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption. (51) Behold, I tell you a mystery: We all shall not sleep, but we shall all be changed, (52) in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed. (53) For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality. (54) But when this corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and this mortal shall have put on immortality, then shall come to pass the saying that is written, Death is swallowed up in victory.

Those “booths” the Jews were told to dwell in during the feast of tabernacles in type represent our personal temple where the Holy Spirit dwells within us:

1 Corinthians 3:16-17 Know ye not that ye are the temple of God, and that the Spirit of God dwelleth in you? (17) If any man defile the temple of God, him shall God destroy; for the temple of God is holy, which temple ye are.

The tribulation will prove who will be the tares that fall away in disobedience and who will be the wheat that enters the kingdom of God:

Acts 14:22 Confirming the souls of the disciples, and exhorting them to continue in the faith, and that we must through much tribulation enter into the kingdom of God.

Peter clearly said that the church must be the first to go through fiery trials to prove if we will obey the gospel:

1 Peter 4:12-19 Beloved, think it not strange concerning the fiery trial among you, which cometh upon you to prove you, as though a strange thing happened unto you: (13) but insomuch as ye are partakers of Christ’s sufferings, rejoice; that at the revelation of his glory also ye may rejoice with exceeding joy. (14) If ye are reproached for the name of Christ, blessed are ye; because the Spirit of glory and the Spirit of God resteth upon you. (15) For let none of you suffer as a murderer, or a thief, or an evil-doer, or as a meddler in other men’s matters: (16) but if a man suffer as a Christian, let him not be ashamed; but let him glorify God in this name. (17) For the time is come for judgment to begin at the house of God: and if it begin first at us, what shall be the end of them that obey not the gospel of God? (18) And if the righteous is scarcely saved, where shall the ungodly and sinner appear? (19) Wherefore let them also that suffer according to the will of God commit their souls in well-doing unto a faithful Creator.

The post above is just a small sample of all the scriptural proofs found for a post trib rapture in this link:

https://sumofthyword.com/2016/10/04/the-rapture-of-the-church-is-after-the-tribulation/

To Tabernacle means to DWELL WITH God. In the HARVEST CHAPTER of Rev. 14 we see that the Wheat (Israel) grows together with the Wicked Tares until the very end, thus they are Gathered in to the Fathers barn in verse 1 on the Mt of Olives and the Wicked Tares are placed in the Wine-press of God's Wrath to be gathered into bundles (the grave) to be burned in 1000 years. (Second Death). The Rapture of the Church is clearly seen in a FLASHBACK in Rev. 14:14 via Jesus from a cloud as he thrusts in the Sickle to Harvest.

Jesus fulfilled the first three Spring Feasts

1.) Feast of Passover (Jesus is our Passover blood)

2.) Feast of Unleavened Bread (Jesus was WITHOUT SIN)

3.) Feast of First-fruits (Jesus is the first-fruits of the dead)

 

THEN the Summer Harvest arrives aka the Feast of Weeks/Pentecost........CHURCH AGE. It all alone on the Calendar.

4.) Feast of Weeks/Pentecost/Church Age (We are harvesting souls for Jesus/God as we speak, this always ENDED via the blasting of a Shofar Trumpet !! BOOM. The Last Trump ends the Church Age Harvest !! BOOM. )

 

The Fall Feasts not yet fulfilled by Jesus/God.

5.) Feast of Trumps (This never did anything much, except ending the Summer Harvest, and announcing that the Feasts of Atonement and Tabernacles were both NIGH AT HAND.)

6.) Feast of Atonement ( Israel MUST ATONE during the 70th week, the Church has already been called to Heaven via the Last Trump which ends the Harvest {Church Age}, now Israel must ATONE before the 70th week can end, just as Daniel prophesied. )

7.) Feast of Tabernacles (To tabernacle means to dwell with God, well where does Jesus reign for 1000 years from? Jerusalem, that's where, so Israel then TABERNACLES with God/Jesus.)

 

The 7 Feasts are/were a PRELUDE to the whole history of mankind down through the ages. 

 

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Posted
1 hour ago, Moby said:

Did you study this link at the bottom of my post as it is loaded with so many precepts that when brought together clearly prove when the rapture/resurrection happens within the feast of Tabernacles:

https://sumofthyword.com/2016/10/04/the-rapture-of-the-church-is-after-the-tribulation/

That link is entirely too long to copy and post and 80% scripture by volume so Rob is clearly not giving his opinion but amassing the multitudes of witnesses that prove his thesis:

https://sumofthyword.com/

It absolutely amazes me how many people on forums I have visited refuse to open a link!?!

Can you provide just one verse that states a day to the Lord is a year? 


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Posted (edited)
7 hours ago, Shilohsfoal said:

Can you provide just one verse that states a day to the Lord is a year? 

Please remember that our Father purposely hid His deeper truths that we discover as we diligently study:

Proverbs 25:2  It is the glory of God to conceal a thing; But the glory of kings is to search out a matter.\

Here is a portion of that link where Rob proves “the day of the Lord” is also called “the day of vengeance of our God” to proclaim “the year of the Lord’s favor” that He also declares is “the year of recompense” and the “year of the His redeemed”:

So lets see if we can find some more clues as to how long “the day of the Lord” is:

Jeremiah 46:10 For this is the day of the Lord GOD of hosts, a day of vengeance, that he may avenge him of his adversaries: and the sword shall devour, and it shall be satiate and made drunk with their blood: for the Lord GOD of hosts hath a sacrifice in the north country by the river Euphrates.

Isaiah 34:8 For Jehovah has a day of vengeance, the year of recompense for the cause of Zion.

Isaiah 61:2 to proclaim the year of the Lord’s favor, the day of vengeance of our God; to comfort all that mourn;

Isaiah 63:4 For the day of vengeance was in my heart, the year of my redeemed is come.

From those 4 passages above we can conclude “the day of the Lord” is also called “the day of vengeance of our God” to proclaim “the year of the Lord’s favor” that He also declares is “the year of recompense” and the “year of the His redeemed” when he pours out His wrath which comes  after the tribulation is over and the sun and moon are darkened:

Mark 13:24-25 But in those days, after that tribulation, the sun shall be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, (25) and the stars shall be falling from heaven, and the powers that are in the heavens shall be shaken.

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6 hours ago, Revelation Man said:

To Tabernacle means to DWELL WITH God. In the HARVEST CHAPTER of Rev. 14 we see that the Wheat (Israel) grows together with the Wicked Tares until the very end, thus they are Gathered in to the Fathers barn in verse 1 on the Mt of Olives and the Wicked Tares are placed in the Wine-press of God's Wrath to be gathered into bundles (the grave) to be burned in 1000 years. (Second Death). The Rapture of the Church is clearly seen in a FLASHBACK in Rev. 14:14 via Jesus from a cloud as he thrusts in the Sickle to Harvest.

Jesus fulfilled the first three Spring Feasts

1.) Feast of Passover (Jesus is our Passover blood)

2.) Feast of Unleavened Bread (Jesus was WITHOUT SIN)

3.) Feast of First-fruits (Jesus is the first-fruits of the dead)

THEN the Summer Harvest arrives aka the Feast of week/Pentecost...........CHURCH AGE. It all alone on the Calendar.

4.) Feast of Weeks/Pentecost/Church Age (We are harvesting souls for Jesus/God as we speak, this always ENDED via the blasting of a Shofar Trumpet !! BOOM. The Last Trump ends the Church Age Harvest !! BOOM. )

The Fall Feasts not yet fulfilled by Jesus/God.

5.) Feast of Trumps (This never did anything much, except ending the Summer Harvest, and announcing that the Feast of Atonement and Tabernacles are both NIGH AT HAND.)

6.) Feast of Atonement ( Israel MUST ATONE during the 70th week, the Church has already been called to Heaven via the Last Trump which ends the Harvest {Church Age}, now Israel must ATONE before the 70th week can end, just as Daniel prophesied. )

7.) Feast of Tabernacles (To tabernacle means to dwell with God, well where does Jesus reign for 1000 years from? Jerusalem, that's where, so Israel then TABERNACLES with God/Jesus.

The 7 Feasts are/were a PRELUDE to the whole history of mankind down through the ages.

I suggest you do a little deeper study on where mount Zion is located:

Hebrews 12:18-24  For ye are not come unto a mount that might be touched, and that burned with fire, and unto blackness, and darkness, and tempest,  (19)  and the sound of a trumpet, and the voice of words; which voice they that heard entreated that no word more should be spoken unto them;  (20)  for they could not endure that which was enjoined, If even a beast touch the mountain, it shall be stoned;  (21)  and so fearful was the appearance, that Moses said, I exceedingly fear and quake:  (22)  but ye are come unto mount Zion, and unto the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem, and to innumerable hosts of angels,  (23)  to the general assembly and church of the firstborn who are enrolled in heaven, and to God the Judge of all, and to the spirits of just men made perfect,  (24)  and to Jesus the mediator of a new covenant, and to the blood of sprinkling that speaketh better than that of Abel.

When we are born again we are raised up with Jesus and made to sit with him in the heavenly places which is obviously a spiritual place while we are physically still on the earth:

Ephesians 2:4-6  but God, being rich in mercy, for his great love wherewith he loved us,  (5)  even when we were dead through our trespasses, made us alive together with Christ (by grace have ye been saved),  (6)  and raised us up with him, and made us to sit with him in the heavenly places, in Christ Jesus:

Please notice that the text in Revelation 14:2 is clearly saying John heard a voice FROM heaven while he was witnessing Jesus with the 144,000 on mount Zion:

Revelation 14:1-2  And I saw, and behold, the Lamb standing on the mount Zion, and with him a hundred and forty and four thousand, having his name, and the name of his Father, written on their foreheads.  (2)  And I heard a voice from heaven, as the voice of many waters, and as the voice of a great thunder: and the voice which I heard was as the voice of harpers harping with their harps: 

Those 144,000 Christians on mount Zion with Jesus are a corporate body of men who are already perfected in Christ so that there is no lying doctrines in their mouth:

Luke 6:40  The disciple is not above his teacher: but every one when he is perfected shall be as his teacher.

Revelation 14:3-5  and they sing as it were a new song before the throne, and before the four living creatures and the elders: and no man could learn the song save the hundred and forty and four thousand, even they that had been purchased out of the earth.  (4)  These are they that were not defiled with women; for they are virgins. These are they that follow the Lamb whithersoever he goeth. These were purchased from among men, to be the firstfruits unto God and unto the Lamb.  (5)  And in their mouth was found no lie: they are without blemish.

Those 144,000 Christians are the corporate manchild born out of the woman and already out in their wilderness as Moses was a type who are the corporate  "they" waiting to nourish the woman who will be fleeing into their wilderness once the tribulation starts:

Revelation 12:5-6  And she was delivered of a son, a man child, who is to rule all the nations with a rod of iron: and her child was caught up unto God, and unto his throne.  (6)  And the woman(church) fled into the wilderness, where she hath a place prepared of God, that there they may nourish her a thousand two hundred and threescore days.

They are the firstfruits sent forth into their wilderness as a corporate body on the white horse as the tribulation commences:

Revelation 6:1-2  And I saw when the Lamb opened one of the seven seals, and I heard one of the four living creatures saying as with a voice of thunder, Come.  (2)  And I saw, and behold, a white horse, and he that sat thereon had a bow; and there was given unto him a crown: and he came forth conquering, and to conquer.

I think one of the biggest errors the NT church makes is ignoring what Paul clearly said in Ephesians chapter 2! Here is a small portion from this link:

https://sumofthyword.com/2017/12/19/all-israel/

That clearly proves the believing Gentile becomes a part of the commonwealth of Israel:

Under the old covenant the Gentiles were alienated from the commonwealth of Israel but the new covenant reconciled both the Jew and the Gentile into one body. The Gentiles became fellow-citizens of Israel as fellow saints of the household of God:

Ephesians 2:11-22 Wherefore remember, that once ye, the Gentiles in the flesh, who are called Uncircumcision by that which is called Circumcision, in the flesh, made by hands; (12) that ye were at that time separate from Christ, alienated from the commonwealth of Israel, and strangers from the covenants of the promise, having no hope and without God in the world. (13) But now in Christ Jesus ye that once were far off(believing Gentiles) are made nigh in the blood of Christ. (14) For he is our peace, who made both one, and brake down the middle wall of partition, (15) having abolished in his flesh the enmity, even the law of commandments contained in ordinances; that he might create in himself of the two one new man, so making peace; (16) and might reconcile them both in one body unto God through the cross, having slain the enmity thereby: (17) and he came and preached peace to you that were far off, and peace to them that were nigh: (18) for through him we both have our access in one Spirit unto the Father. (19) So then ye are no more strangers and sojourners, but ye are fellow-citizens with the saints, and of the household of God, (20) being built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Christ Jesus himself being the chief corner stone; (21) in whom each several building, fitly framed together, groweth into a holy temple in the Lord; (22) in whom ye also are builded together for a habitation of God in the Spirit.

Zechariah prophesied 800 years before Paul that Gentiles who were “afar off” are now a part of the commonwealth of Israel as the temple of God when they put their faith in Jesus Christ as believers:

Zechariah 6:9 & 15 And the word of Jehovah came unto me, saying,….(15) And they that are far off(believing Gentiles) shall come and build in the temple of Jehovah; and ye shall know that Jehovah of hosts hath sent me(the Word made flesh who is Jesus) unto you. And this shall come to pass, if ye will diligently obey the voice of Jehovah your God.

Father never intended for His children to be just from the physical seed of Abraham but the children of His promise:

Romans 9:6-8 But it is not as though the word of God hath come to nought. For they are not all Israel, that are of Israel: (7) neither, because they are Abraham’s seed, are they all children: but, In Isaac shall thy seed be called. (8) That is, it is not the children of the flesh that are children of God; but the children of the promise are reckoned for a seed.

Christ redeemed both the physical Jews and the Gentiles so that both might receive the promise of the Spirit through faith:

Galatians 3:13-14 Christ redeemed us from the curse of the law, having become a curse for us; for it is written, Cursed is every one that hangeth on a tree: (14)  that upon the Gentiles might come the blessing of Abraham in Christ Jesus; that we might receive the promise of the Spirit through faith.

This silly idea that the tribulation is only for that little tiny country in the middle east has caused so much confusion as to the whole purpose of tribulation:

Acts 14:22  confirming the souls of the disciples, exhorting them to continue in the faith, and that through many tribulations we must enter into the kingdom of God.

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The wise virgins are taken but the foolish virgins are left behind n yelled "Looord Loooord…let us iiiiiiin...." 

Their scream echoed in the great tribulation.?????


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Posted
6 hours ago, Moby said:

I suggest you do a little deeper study on where mount Zion is located:

 

I just informed you via my 35 years of ministry,  what the 7 Feasts actually mean and here comes the subterfuge/runaround. Just for grins, there really is no New Covenant, the PROMISE was the original covenant, but the Jews were so ingrained into the Law they thought it was a New Covenant (to them) so it was spoken by Paul as New......Read Galatians 3, the Law was given 430 YEARS AFTER THE PROMISE !!

6 hours ago, Moby said:

When we are born again we are raised up with Jesus and made to sit with him in the heavenly places which is obviously a spiritual place while we are physically still on the earth:

 

When we are born again we have a Mediator, one Jesus Christ whom we have access to 24/7/365. We do not sit in heavenly places per se, we still have sin flesh and are tempted on earth daily. Paul and Peter were both Martyred.

6 hours ago, Moby said:

Please notice that the text in Revelation 14:2 is clearly saying John heard a voice FROM heaven while he was witnessing Jesus with the 144,000 on mount Zion:

 

The 144,000 is a Metaphor for all the Jews that fled from Judea (Matt. 24:15-17) to the Petra/Bozrah mountainous area. The number 12 represents fullness, the number 10 represents completeness, thus 12 x 12 x 10[000] = ALL Israel. As Paul, quoting Isaiah stated, all Israel will be saved, not every Jew, it means the seed of Abraham is preserved, just as God promised him it would be. 

Isaiah 63:1 Who is this that cometh from Edom, with dyed garments from Bozrah? this that is glorious in his apparel, travelling in the greatness of his strength? I that speak in righteousness, mighty to save. 2 Wherefore art thou red in thine apparel, and thy garments like him that treadeth in the winefat? 3 I have trodden the winepress alone; and of the people there was none with me: for I will tread them in mine anger, and trample them in my fury; and their blood shall be sprinkled upon my garments, and I will stain all my raiment.

For the day of vengeance is in mine heart, and the year of my redeemed is come.5 And I looked, and there was none to help; and I wondered that there was none to uphold: therefore mine own arm brought salvation unto me; and my fury, it upheld me. 6 And I will tread down the people in mine anger, and make them drunk in my fury, and I will bring down their strength to the earth.

Now go read verses 7-14, its the Israeli Jews praising God for His tender mercies !!

7 I will mention the lovingkindnesses of the Lord, and the praises of the Lord, according to all that the Lord hath bestowed on us, and the great goodness toward the house of Israel, which he hath bestowed on them according to his mercies, and according to the multitude of his lovingkindnesses. 8 For he said, Surely they are my people, children that will not lie: so he was their Saviour (Jesus).

9 In all their affliction he was afflicted, and the angel of his presence saved them: in his love and in his pity he redeemed them; and he bare them, and carried them all the days of old. 10 But they rebelled, and vexed his holy Spirit: therefore he was turned to be their enemy, and he fought against them(God forsaked Israel for nigh 2000 years thus the VALLEY OF DRY BONES Prophecy).

11 Then he remembered the days of old, Moses, and his people, saying, Where is he that brought them up out of the sea with the shepherd of his flock? where is he that put his holy Spirit within him? 12 That led them by the right hand of Moses with his glorious arm, dividing the water before them, to make himself an everlasting name? 13 That led them through the deep, as an horse in the wilderness, that they should not stumble? 14 As a beast goeth down into the valley, the Spirit of the Lord caused him to rest: so didst thou lead thy people, to make thyself a glorious name.

The ABOVE is the Rev. 14 Harvest of the Wheat and Tares. Jesus comes to Bozrah with stained Garments. The voice in heaven means nothing, except the Jews have repented and its a representation of Joy in Heaven, the Jewish people have been GRAFTED back in. You have to understand the prose of God to get these things brother, you over emphasize the minute points, its prose.

6 hours ago, Moby said:

Those 144,000 Christians on mount Zion with Jesus are a corporate body of men who are already perfected in Christ so that there is no lying doctrines in their mouth:

 

These are the Jews that fled Judea, go find ANYWHERE that says they are SUPER PREACHERS, you will not find it. NOTICE: they are seen in Rev. 7, just before the Judgments start in Rev. 8, the Seals ARE NOT Judgments. Thus the 144,000 are the 3 to 5 million Jews who repent as Zechariah 13:8-9 say, 1/3 of the Jews will repent and 2/3 will perish. Malachi 4:5-6 says that Elijah is sent back to turn Israel back unto God BEFORE the Day of the Lord God's Wrath comes. So, the Jews repent BEFORE they are Conquered and thus Flee Judea, NOTICE: In Rev. 7 the Angel is told to HURT NOT the Earth, Sea nor Trees until the 144,000 are SEALED (Protected in the Petra/Bozrah area) in the head, thus they are HUMAN BEINGS who need protection. 

6 hours ago, Moby said:

Those 144,000 Christians are the corporate manchild born out of the woman and already out in their wilderness as Moses was a type who are the corporate  "they" waiting to nourish the woman who will be fleeing into their wilderness once the tribulation starts:

 

I have heard this CORPORATE lingo before, its always associated with the Rev. 12 Woman being the Church.......So I see you coming brother. Its not the Church its the Jews (Israel). I do not miss anything. I remember all things I have seen pretty much.

6 hours ago, Moby said:

Revelation 12:5-6  And she was delivered of a son, a man child, who is to rule all the nations with a rod of iron: and her child was caught up unto God, and unto his throne.  (6)  And the woman(church) fled into the wilderness, where she hath a place prepared of God, that there they may nourish her a thousand two hundred and threescore days.

Ahhhhhhhhh............as if right on cue you prove my point.........LOL. Woman = the Church = YOU ARE WRONG.

6 hours ago, Moby said:

Those 144,000 Christians on mount Zion with Jesus are a corporate body of men who are already perfected in Christ so that there is no lying doctrines in their mouth:

 

No, they are ISRAEL...........Try reading Genesis 37:9 it will give you the answer.

Genesis 37:9 And he dreamed yet another dream, and told it his brethren, and said, Behold, I have dreamed a dream more; and, behold, the sun and the moon and the eleven stars made obeisance to me.

You get it now? Or does it still escape you? Because the WOMAN, with the Sun (Jacob), Moon (Rachel) and 11 Stars (Josephs brothers) can't be any more obvious as per to whom it is. Its Israel. 

6 hours ago, Moby said:

This silly idea that the tribulation is only for that little tiny country in the middle east has caused so much confusion as to the whole purpose of tribulation:

 

Its starting to be a waste of Time.....you are one of those cats who uses REPLACEMENT THEOLOGY, but I can flush it out from you pretty easily in most instances. 

The Tribulation is for the Wicked Tares (God's Wrath) and for all those who did not come to Christ Jesus in time. They must now repent or else, and eve if they do they (Remnant Church) will become Martyrs. The Jews are the only ones protected for 1260 days, and if you understood prophesy you would know why !! God promised Abraham an ETERNAL SEED, and Jesus says if he didn't come back (after 7 years) there would be no flesh on earth saved, and there are only 15 million Jews and the Beast is trying to kill them off, so that would be accomplished very fast, if God Himself did not protect them in the Petra/Bozrah area. This is why they are protected.

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