Time to cancel Netflix. (FYIs in case you missed it)

[LadyKay]

1 hour ago, other one said:

I just find it hard to believe that someone made a movie that was directed toward a group of people that are illegal.. 

Not saying I am okay with all of this. But the movie is a French movie and they are more sexual than the US. I would say this probably didn't even turns heads in France. 

[other one]

41 minutes ago, Aimes said:

I've heard it does. About a young girl who is new to the school and finds her place in the dance team. They're working to earn popularity via social media and such, which is what leads them to dance so provocatively, its in effort to get "likes" and win a following. 

so, did it work?

 

[other one]

31 minutes ago, LadyKay said:

Not saying I am okay with all of this. But the movie is a French movie and they are more sexual than the US. I would say this probably didn't even turns heads in France. 

I'm an old conspiracy guy.  been studying and researching conspiracies my whole life.   It is my lifetime hobby...    and when I see this many people go nuts over something and can't find anyone who's even seen the movie it raises red flags.   I guess I'll have to watch it myself as I usually do to get the rest of the story.

 

Later.

[Aimes]

37 minutes ago, other one said:

so, did it work?

 

No clue. Didn’t watch it. Just going off the summary I heard of the movie 

[LadyKay]

6 hours ago, other one said:

 I guess I'll have to watch it myself as I usually do to get the rest of the story.

Let us know what you find out. 

[other one]

Well, I did watch it and I guess because I am not a pedophile, I got a lot more informed than excited.    I'm posting the review at Rodger Ebert's web site for it was the best review I read before actually watching the movie....    it is fairly well right on with the plot....     and interestingly the plot itself pretty much condemns the girl's actions and so did most all the audience watching them dance...   Basically showing what can happen to a pre-teen when life gets too  much to handle.   There is a spiritual side of it that you will not hear about and unless you are familiar with voodoo you would miss it too....   though the mother brought in a shaman of some sort to check her out and declared she wasn't possessed later a group of older women did a ritual on her and from what I saw she was letting a spirit move her body. Don't know if that was intended in the movie or not, but I've seen the devil do things in a lot of movies that didn't make the news papers. ..  spirits might also explain how at 11 and never owning a phone how she managed to use it like a pro...    and how the phone she stole had a battery that never ran down...   and when the guy that she stole the phone from finds it and her she dashes into the bathroom and takes a picture of her bare crotch and hands it to him out of spite...   but the picture is published and that caused all her friends to turn on her...    one other scene was completely unnecessary was when some older girls was dancing a wardrobe malfunction uncovered a bare breast...    totally unnecessary and really nothing to do with the plot.   what movies these days don't do something similar.

 

So overall should we recommend the movie.....   it's hard to say...   if it had been promoted along the lines of the plot I would say maybe....    but since it was promoted as something sexual, most people would not be comfortable discussing it for a  very large part of the US has already made up it's mind that it's trash and would put a bad reputation on anyone supporting it....            and in reality the movie condemns itself...  so maybe we should just agree with it.

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https://www.rogerebert.com/reviews/cuties-movie-review-2020

There’s a saying in criticism that “depiction does not equal endorsement.” Art should be able to address taboos without necessarily advocating for them, but some surface-level readings miss what the work digs into because it’s not obvious at first glance. In the wake of conservative outrage over an early poster of debut writer/director Maïmouna Doucouré’s “Cuties,” this is a sentiment that bears repeating. The film actively critiques the very thing pearl-clutchers were mad about—the sexualization of children—but Doucouré received death threats. Netflix, the movie’s distributor, issued an apology. Controversy aside, “Cuties” is a difficult and challenging film, pushing the idea of “depiction does not equal endorsement” to its limit. It will not surprise me to read responses still accusing the movie of what it condemns. However, Doucouré uses these uncomfortable images to provoke a serious conversation about the sexualization of girls—especially regarding girls of color, the policing of a girl’s sexuality, double standards, the effect of social media on kids, and how children learn these behaviors. To do this, the director shows what it looks like for young girls to emulate what they see in music videos and grown-up dance routines. A few times in the film, we see the confused or even disgusted faces of adults watching the younger generation gyrate and twerk, biting their lips or their nail in a suggestive way. It’s likely that these girls don’t fully understand what those gestures mean, but they see it in pop culture and they imitate it, like several other generations of girls before them. Doucouré also explores some of the emotional tangles that come with wanting to fit in and to be taken seriously, as well as the repercussions that come with acting youthfully impulsive. Many of these experiences were rooted in the director’s own childhood or in the stories of girls she interviewed when working on the “Cuties” script. 

“Cuties” is a coming-of-age story of a girl caught between cultures and age. 11-year-old Amy (Fathia Youssouf Abdillahi), the eldest daughter of a Senegalese family living in Paris, must help her mother, Miriam (Maïmouna Gueye), around the apartment with mundane tasks like watching her younger siblings, going out for supplies, and cleaning messes. Then, Miriam learns that her husband has taken a new wife, and Amy is reluctantly swept up in the preparation for their impending nuptials. Although her family is devoutly Muslim, Amy begins to admire a dance group at school who call themselves Cuties—Angelica (Medina El Aidi), Coumba (Esther Gohourou), Jess (Ilanah Cami-Goursolas) and Yasmine (Myriam Hamma)—and tries to join their ranks. She starts dressing more like them and doing what they dare her to do. Finally, she figures out a way to get the cool girls to accept her by learning provocative moves that will help them win a dance competition against a rival group of older girls. Amy gets caught up in the whirlwind of her emotions and runs afoul of her mother’s expectations. 

Under Doucouré's direction, the film walks a fine line between its controversial imagery and taking a step back to reveal the emotional impulses that drive Amy and her friends to seek attention and affirmation. There are echos of films like “Eve’s Bayou,” “Girlhood” and “The Fits,” but given Amy’s age and the directness with which “Cuties” addresses the issue of sexualizing young girls, the film feels uniquely its own. With the help of cinematographer Yann Maritaud, Doucouré adds little surrealistic elements and uses color to make her images pop off the screen. For instance, there’s a recurring motif of Amy transfixed by the dress she’s supposed to wear for her father’s wedding, and different things happen to it that correspond to what she’s going through. It’s likely not a mistake that the turquoise color of the dress echoes some of the colors around the apartment, tying together the threads of culture and home into one. For every dance scene that may make you want to avert your eyes, there are other uncomplicated moments of childhood playtime like Amy and Angelica talking with their mouths full of gummy bears or four of the girls running with shopping bags throwing confetti, like they’re leading a parade for themselves. As if following the beat of Niko Noki’s music for the film, “Cuties” moves at a quick, riveting pace. The two parts of Amy’s world are seamlessly connected together by editors Stéphane Mazalaigue and Mathilde Van de Moortel. The movie is so much more nuanced and bold than the first wave of outrage charged. With “Cuties,” Doucouré announces herself as a director with a keen visual style who’s unafraid to explore these cultural and social tensions. After all, these are issues facing many young girls growing up today in various corners of the world. You’d just never know it because their coming-of-age horror stories aren't always told in film. 

Perhaps the most important message of “Cuties” is that no matter what Amy says or does, she’s still just an 11-year-old girl. People are quick to judge her for trying to act like an adult, but really, all she wants is to feel cool and fit in. She wants to be liked, and what person who survived middle school couldn’t identify with that? She thought the way to do that was to emulate others. Instead, she becomes a cautionary tale in the process. 

 

[Salvation67]

Brothers and sisters, we should not watch or encourage others to watch this horrible movie. (I know, I know... will have to parry the parochial yard stick on this one LOL! ) Its all good,  got the RCC on ignore so I won't have to hear it.

[LadyKay]

8 minutes ago, Chicken coop2 said:

What is RCC?

Could be me. I get put on ignore a lot. LOL!

[Salvation67]

1 minute ago, LadyKay said:

Could be me. I get put on ignore a lot. LOL!

Nope, not you LadyKay. I like you 

[LadyKay]

2 minutes ago, Salvation67 said:

Nope, not you LadyKay. I like you 

Somebody likes me!