Time to cancel Netflix. (FYIs in case you missed it)

[LadyKay]

44 minutes ago, Mozart's Starling said:

Uhhhh this involves actual kids......it is not expression like a piece of art. This movie is evil and should not have any excuses made for it.  So they are making REAL KIDS twerk. Come on here of all places I wouldn't expect to see excuses for it.

I think we are all in agreement on here that this is a bad movie.  I don't see anyone here saying it is not. 

[teddyv]

10 minutes ago, LonerAndy said:

And that is a point.  I can say for myself that I have never had any porn or anything like that on my computer ever.

And for me.... and this is just me apparently... My internet company is not funding directly, or indirectly, pedophilia.  The company is not sponsoring sexualizing 11-year-olds, nor are they defending it.

The internet provider is only engaged in one thing... providing internet.

To say we shouldn't have the internet because you could if you choose, use it to look at underage girls in whore outfits.... is like saying you could use a car to drive to a strip club, or you could use a car to run people over and murder them.

By that logic, no one should own a car?

Because all through this entire ridiculous Covid-19 freak out over a sneeze shut down... I've been going to church online... over the internet.

How you use the internet does matter, just like how you use your car matters.... do you agree?

Of course. But I use Netflix for family-friendly reasons. Sure, it's a specific company that is actively putting this show on for it's viewers (I read the movie won an award in a film festival in Europe somewhere). But they have already, and continue to, put on various adult-oriented soft core stuff, violent movies and all sorts of other less than Christian media.

I suppose we can argue about the responsibilities of our ISP's to allow certain content and storage of that content on their servers. That is arguably enabling the porn industry.

[LadyKay]

20 minutes ago, teddyv said:

A couple years ago, History Channel (the Canadian version anyway) was showing Top Gun (???). That channel went off the rails years ago.

Yeah. I remember when it really was a history channel. And Discovery channel had science stuff. TLC was a learning channel. They use to show real surgery being done. That was seriously cool. Now it is all reality tv.  Even MTV isn't about music anymore.  

[teddyv]

1 minute ago, LadyKay said:

Yeah. I remember when it really was a history channel. And Discovery channel had science stuff. TLC was a learning channel. They use to show real surgery being done. That was seriously cool. Now it is all reality tv.  Even MTV isn't about music anymore.  

Too many channels with not enough content. I suspect those good science, history and other quality shows cost money which the ad revenue just could not keep up with. 

[LonerAndy]

5 minutes ago, teddyv said:

Of course. But I use Netflix for family-friendly reasons. Sure, it's a specific company that is actively putting this show on for it's viewers (I read the movie won an award in a film festival in Europe somewhere). But they have already, and continue to, put on various adult-oriented soft core stuff, violent movies and all sorts of other less than Christian media.

I suppose we can argue about the responsibilities of our ISP's to allow certain content and storage of that content on their servers. That is arguably enabling the porn industry.

Yeah it did win an award, which is insane.

As for enabling the porn industry... should we boycott cameras?  Should we boycott printers?  Should we boycott magazines?  Should we boycott paper?  Should boycott trucks?

If you want to talk about enabling.... there are millions of things that enable the porn industry, that we use on a routine daily basis.

If you want to go that route... then logically you would need to become Amish.  That's the only way to avoid using anything that could be used to enable porn.

This is why we have to rationally determine where to draw a line.

The line for me, it is when my money goes to something that DIRECTLY funds or supports, something that is pure evil.

As I said before, my problem with Netflix isn't that this movie ended up on their service.  My problem is that once they were confronted with the undeniably fact that this is unambiguous sexualizing of 11 year old girls, in prostitution outfits.....  they defended it.  This is horrific to me.

I don't know how as a Christian, that I can give the money G-d gave to me, to a company that is openly going to support pedophilia.

[teddyv]

 

3 minutes ago, LonerAndy said:

Yeah it did win an award, which is insane.

As for enabling the porn industry... should we boycott cameras?  Should we boycott printers?  Should we boycott magazines?  Should we boycott paper?  Should boycott trucks?

If you want to talk about enabling.... there are millions of things that enable the porn industry, that we use on a routine daily basis.

If you want to go that route... then logically you would need to become Amish.  That's the only way to avoid using anything that could be used to enable porn.

This is why we have to rationally determine where to draw a line.

The line for me, it is when my money goes to something that DIRECTLY funds or supports, something that is pure evil.

As I said before, my problem with Netflix isn't that this movie ended up on their service.  My problem is that once they were confronted with the undeniably fact that this is unambiguous sexualizing of 11 year old girls, in prostitution outfits.....  they defended it.  This is horrific to me.

I don't know how as a Christian, that I can give the money G-d gave to me, to a company that is openly going to support pedophilia.

I'm a bit confused how sexualized pre-teen/teen girls in a movie equals a company endorsing pedophilia.  Have Netflix executives said that? Is this display going to cause men to suddenly be inappropriately attracted to young girls? It just seems there is a category error going on here.

[other one]

43 minutes ago, JohnR7 said:

Perhaps we should use a missle to take out those servers. That would put an end to it real quick. 

the way the internet is made you'd have to pretty much destroy the world.

[other one]

30 minutes ago, David1701 said:

Well said, LonerAndy.

When I was young in the faith (mid to late 1980s) no-one I knew would have tried to defend this (even unsaved people).  How things have degenerated...

who's defending the movie.....  most of us are just saying lets not cut our noses off to spite our face.

 

[other one]

21 minutes ago, teddyv said:

Too many channels with not enough content. I suspect those good science, history and other quality shows cost money which the ad revenue just could not keep up with. 

we just dvr everything we watch and fast forward through all the commercials.  they are pretty much all the same length.   4 minutes is 8 fast forward clicks and you can just look away for a bit.

[other one]

15 minutes ago, teddyv said:

 

I'm a bit confused how sexualized pre-teen/teen girls in a movie equals a company endorsing pedophilia.  Have Netflix executives said that? Is this display going to cause men to suddenly be inappropriately attracted to young girls? It just seems there is a category error going on here.

since i haven't seen the movie i couldn't answer that.....