The wrath of the lamb versus the wrath of God.

[OneLight]

9 minutes ago, iamlamad said:

I suspect God is against mind altering drugs. He probably helped some people invent things like Vaccines. 

I am not against aspirin, but I never get headaches so never need it. No, I am not against all medications. I do trust in God as my healer. 

Thank you for your reply.  I agree with what you have said.

[Revelation Man]

22 hours ago, luigi said:

I will agree with you on the part that a horn stands for the power of a kingdom, as in its military capabilities.

The President of any nation speaks for its nation. The little horn, who is the beast's mouth speaks for its ten military member militaries nations. 

Dan 7:11 I beheld then because of the voice of the great words which the horn spake: I beheld even till the beast was slain, and his body destroyed, and given to the burning flame.

The Beast is described as being killed........having a Body.........and being cast into hell.

Satan nor any Demon has a body, they are Spirits, they thus can't die via that kind of death, they are placed in the bottomless pit, then in hell where they will suffer forever. Lastly, Satan is placed in the pit for 1000 years, he's NOT CAST INTO HELL.

The reason your theory doesn't work out is because the Beast being spoken of is not a Demon, its a MAN with a MOUTH and with a BODY who then DIES and is cast into HELL............The same points I already made. 

Edited September 18, 2020 by Revelation Man

[luigi]

1 hour ago, Revelation Man said:

Dan 7:11 I beheld then because of the voice of the great words which the horn spake: I beheld even till the beast was slain, and his body destroyed, and given to the burning flame.

The Beast is described as being killed........having a Body.........and being cast into hell.

Satan nor any Demon has a body, they are Spirits, they thus can't die via that kind of death, they are placed in the bottomless pit, then in hell where they will suffer forever. Lastly, Satan is placed in the pit for 1000 years, he's NOT CAST INTO HELL.

The reason your theory doesn't work out is because the Beast being spoken of is not a Demon, its a MAN with a MOUTH and with a BODY who then DIES and is cast into HELL............The same points I already made. 

The beast's seven heads represent seven kings, and would therefore include the people in their kingdoms.

Revelation 17:9 And here is the mind which hath wisdom. The seven heads are seven mountains, on which the woman sitteth. 10 And there are seven kings: five are fallen, and one is, and the other is not yet come; and when he cometh, he must continue a short space.

[luigi]

21 hours ago, iamlamad said:

I know you keep saying "fossil fuels" but I know such a thing is simply not in scripture.  It is not a sin to drive a car. It is not a sin to cook with natural gas. I suspect it as been the Holy Spirit's wisdom that has helped men invent many of the things we enjoy today. 

No, I certainly will not accept anything NOT IN SCRIPTURE. You shouldn't either. 

Not to burst your bubble here iamlamad, because I also have many of today's modern technological marvels, including a hybrid automobile; but when the Lord gathers they who love Him from the four winds and brings them to the land of Judea, which shall then be regarded the foremost of nations, what do you think are the unlimited amount of chariots that will be there? Answer: These aren't horse driven chariots, these are metaphorically describing horsepower driven vehicles. Automobiles are therefore one of the many idols that the Lord shall abolish.

Isaiah 2:2 And it shall come to pass in the last days, that the mountain of the Lord's house shall be established in the top of the mountains, and shall be exalted above the hills; and all nations shall flow unto it.

Isaiah 2:7 Their land also is full of silver and gold, neither is there any end of their treasures; their land is also full of horses, neither is there any end of their chariots:

Isaiah 2:18 And the idols he shall utterly abolish.

[Revelation Man]

2 hours ago, luigi said:

The beast's seven heads represent seven kings, and would therefore include the people in their kingdoms.

Revelation 17:9 And here is the mind which hath wisdom. The seven heads are seven mountains, on which the woman sitteth. 10 And there are seven kings: five are fallen, and one is, and the other is not yet come; and when he cometh, he must continue a short space.

The 4 Beasts are 4 kings also...Dan. 7:17 These great beasts, which are four, are four kings, which shall arise out of the earth.

Each Beast can be/can start as Kings, it simply means a POWER that rules over Israel/Mediterranean Sea Region (MSR), thus they start out as MEN/Kings and move on to Kingdoms. The Last Beast never passes his Kingdom on so he himself is THE BEAST. That is why God REDUCES the 7 Kingdom Heads to Kings who FALL in Revelation 17. So we can understand that Last Beast is a MAN, its never a Kingdom per se because its ONE MAN whole rules for 42 months claiming to be worthy of being worshiped as god. 

So, Egypt had ONE KING that Beasted over the MSR and once he passed his kingdom on it became the Kingdom which was THE BEAST POWER until the LAST KING fell from power over the MSR. Then Assyria had a King ARISE and Assyria became a Beast, likewise Nebuchadnezzar Beasted over the MSR and captured the Jewish peoples, once he died as a Beast power his Kingdom became the Beast power until Persia Conquered them and his son Fell (Mene, Mene, Tekel). Persia ruled the region via ONE KING then he passed his Kingdom on to another, who then had one King that Fell to Alexander the Great, who became the King that AROSE (Beasted) over the MSR. He died and the Four Generals ruled and the strongest became THE BEAST KINGDOM, and then eventually ONE KING Fell, probably Antiochus since he is the TYPE Anti-Christ, we all know the Anti-Christ will FALL. Then Rome had a king to arise as the Beast over the MSR, then Rome became a BEAST KINGDOM, and eventually Rome had ONE KING that Fell, the Beast System that was around for over 1000 years was suddenly non existent, there was no Israel to BEAST OVER, thus there can be NO BEAST over Israel AND the MSR. The LAST BEAST is thus the Anti-Christ, a MAN.........just like the 4 Kings who arose were BEASTS (Powers that ruled over Israel and the MSR) that ruled like a Dominate Kingdom. 

The problem as I see is way too many people do not recognize that a BEAST is simply a POWER that ARISES and then RULES over Israel and the whole Mediterranean Sea Region. They way over analyze what it means. 

1.) Egypt arose as a Beast Power over the MSR and Israel via ONE KING, he BEASTED FIRST then the Kingdom BEASTED as a whole.

2.) Assyria arose as a Beast Power over the MSR and Israel via ONE KING, he BEASTED FIRST then the Kingdom BEASTED.

3.) Babylon arose as a Beast Power over the MSR and Israel via ONE KING, he BEASTED FIRST then the Kingdom BEASTED.

4.) Persia arose as a Beast Power over the MSR and Israel via ONE KING, he BEASTED FIRST then the Kingdom BEASTED.

5.) Greece arose as a Beast Power over the MSR and Israel via ONE KING, he BEASTED FIRST then the Kingdom BEASTED.

6.) Rome arose as a Beast Power over the MSR and Israel via ONE KING, he BEASTED FIRST then the Kingdom BEASTED as a whole.

THIS...........is where we are at now, there was no Israel for nigh 2000 years from 70 AD to 1948, so there could be NO BEAST Power ruling over them, that is just simple math, 1 + 1 = 2. The coming Anti-Christ of course has to ARISE like all the others, and he will thus be a BEAST POWER over the MSR and Israel, but unlike all the others, he never passes his Kingdom on, so HE HIMSELF is the ONLY Beast Power in the end times to rule over the Mediterranean Sea Region and Israel, thus when he FALLS (cast into hell) he will be known as THE BEAST that RULED via being a Power over the MSR and Israel, there will be no other Beast Power. 

7.) Anti-Christ ARISES as a Beast Power over the MSR and Israel as ONE MAN, he Beasts over them and never passes his Kingdom on to another human being, so its never a BEAST KINGDOM per se like the others, just like Daniel 7:17 says the Beasts were also 4 Kings, he is a BEAST himself, and he himself is the BEAST that falls. 

Way to many people actually think the BEAST has to be a Demon, its not, a Beast is ANY POWER that Rules or has Dominion over Israel and the MSR. That can be Physical or Spiritual power. Thus Satan would be considered a BEAST over this whole world, hes the Ruler or god of this world. Thus Spiritually hes a Beast over the MSR and Israel, naturally. He placed a Demon named Apollyon over the MSR and thus in the Spirit world hes a Beast power also (Scarlet Colored Beast).

In the Physical realm, the 7 Beast Heads have nothing to do with Satan or Apollyon. So, the 7 Headed Beast are actual earthly Kingdoms, not Spiritual entities. They represent Egypt, Assyria, Babylon, Persia, Greece, Rome AND the Anti-Christ, the LAST BEAST HEAD is the Anti-Christ, thus when Rev. 13 seeks to clarify who is being spoken of they show that Beast Power has 10 CROWNS because hes the King of the European Union which was once FRACTURED, the 10 only represents the FULL KINGDOM, it doesn't mean 10 kings per se. 10 represents the full amount at any given moment in time.

Satan in Rev. 12 is shown to have 7 CROWNS on the 7 Heads, thus in the Spiritual realm hes been around for all of them, hes a BEAST POWER over the whole world, no man can have a CROWN on the 7 Heads because men do not live for 3000 years. Thus the Scarlet Colored Beast like Satan has been alive for all 7, but he was locked in the bottomless pit for nigh 2000 years, thus when hes released he will once again be a PRINCIPALITY/Power over the MSR and Israel. But the MEN do not have to be possessed by these Demon Spirits to be BEAST POWERS. That is what I am getting from you, its just not the case. The BEASTS simply means POWER OVER A REGION/Peoples. Satan rules in the Spirit world as a POWER..........but there are PHYSICAL KIGDOMS that rule as BEAST POWERS also.

Edited September 18, 2020 by Revelation Man

[luigi]

58 minutes ago, Revelation Man said:

The 4 Beasts are 4 kings also...Dan. 7:17 These great beasts, which are four, are four kings, which shall arise out of the earth.

Each Beast can be/can start as Kings, it simply means a POWER that rules over Israel/Mediterranean Sea Region (MSR), thus they start out as MEN/Kings and move on to Kingdoms. The Last Beast neve passes his Kingdom on so he himself is THE BEAST. That is why God REDUCES the 7 Kingdom Heads to Kings who FALL in Revelation 17. So we can understand that Last Beast is a MAN, its never a Kingdom per se because its ONE MAN whole rules for 42 months claiming to be worthy of being worshiped as god. 

So, Egypt had ONE KING that Beasted over the MSR and once he passed his kingdom on it became the Kingdom which was THE BEAST POWER until the LAST KING fell from power over the MSR. Then Assyria had a King ARISE and Assyria became a Beast, likewise Nebuchadnezzar Beasted over the MSR and captured the Jewish peoples, once he died as a Beast power his Kingdom became the Beast power until Persia Conquered them and his son Fell (Mene, Mene, Tekel). Persia ruled the region via ONE KING then he passed his Kingdom on to another, who then had one King that Fell to Alexander the Great, who became the King that AROSE (Beasted) over the MSR. he died and the Four Generals ruled and the strongest became TE BEAST KINGDOM, and then eventually ONE KING Fell, probably Antiochus since he is the TYPE Anti-Christ, we all know the Anti-Christ will FALL. Then Rome had a king to arise as the Beast over the MSR, then Rome became a BEAST KINGDOM, and eventually Rome had ONE KING that Fell, the Beast System that was around for over 1000 years was suddenly non existent, there was no Israel to BEAST OVER, thus there can be NO BEAST over Israel AND the MSR. The LAST BEAST is thus the Anti-Christ, a MAN.........just like the 4 Kings who arose were BEASTS (Powers that ruled over Israel and the MSR) that ruled like a Dominate Kingdom. 

The problem as I see it is way too many people do not recognize that a BEAST is simple a POWER that ARISES and then RULES over Israel and the whole Mediterranean Sea Region. They way over analyze what it means. 

1.) Egypt arose as a Beast Power over the MSR and Israel via ONE KING, he BEASTED FIRST then the Kingdom BEASTED as a whole.

2.) Assyria arose as a Beast Power over the MSR and Israel via ONE KING, he BEASTED FIRST then the Kingdom BEASTED as a whole.

3.) Babylon arose as a Beast Power over the MSR and Israel via ONE KING, he BEASTED FIRST then the Kingdom BEASTED as a whole.

4.) Persia arose as a Beast Power over the MSR and Israel via ONE KING, he BEASTED FIRST then the Kingdom BEASTED as a whole.

5.) Greece arose as a Beast Power over the MSR and Israel via ONE KING, he BEASTED FIRST then the Kingdom BEASTED as a whole.

6.) Rome arose as a Beast Power over the MSR and Israel via ONE KING, he BEASTED FIRST then the Kingdom BEASTED as a whole.

THIS...........is where we are at now, there was no Israel for nigh 2000 years from 70 AD to 1948, so there could be NO BEAST Power ruling over them, that is just simple math, 1 + 1 = 2. The coming Anti-Christ of course has to ARISE like all the others, and he will thus be a BEAST POWER over the MSR and Israel, but unlike all the others, he never passes his Kingdom on, so HE HIMSELF is the ONLY Beast Power in the end times to rule over the Mediterranean Sea Region and Israel, thus when he FALLS (cast into hell) he will be known as THE BEAST that RULED via Power over the MSR and Israel, there will be no other Beast Power. 

7.) Anti-Christ ARISES as a Beast Power over the MSR and Israel as ONE MAN, he Beasts over them and never passes his Kingdom on to another human being, so its never a BEAST KINGDOM per se like the others, just like Daniel 7:17 says the Beasts were also 4 Kings, he is a BEAST himself, and he himself is the BEAST that falls. 

Way to many people actually think the BEAST has to be a Demon, its not, a Beast is ANY POWER that Rules or has Dominion over Israel and the MSR. That can be Physical or Spiritual power. Thus Satan would be considered a BEAST over this whole world, hes the Ruler or god of this world. Thus Spiritually hes a Beast over the MSR and Israel, naturally. He placed a Demon named Apollyon over the MSR and thus in the Spirit world hes a Beast power also (Scarlet Colored Beast).

In the Physical realm, the 7 Beast Heads have nothing to do with Satan or Apollyon. So, the 7 Headed Beast are actual earthly Kingdoms, not Spiritual entities. They represent Egypt, Assyria, Babylon, Persia, Greece, Rome AND the Anti-Christ, the LAST BEAST HEAD is the Anti-Christ, thus when Rev. 13 seeks to clarify who is being spoken of they show that Beast Power has 10 CROWNS because hes the King of the European Union which was once FRACTURED, the 10 only represents the FULL KINGDOM, it doesn't mean 10 kings per se. 10 represents the full amount at any given time.

Satan in Rev. 12 is shown to have 7 CROWNS on the 7 Heads, thus in the Spiritual realm hes been around for all of them, hes a BEAST POWER over the whole world, no man can have a CROWN on the 7 Heads because men do not live for 3000 years. Thus the Scarlet Colored Beast like Satan has been alive for all 7, but he was locked in the bottomless pit for nigh 2000 years, thus when hes released he will once again be a PRINCIPALITY/Power over the MSR and Israel. But the MEN do not have to be possessed by these Demon Spirits to be BEAST POWERS. That is what I am getting from you, its just not the case. The BEASTS simply means POWER OVER A REGION/Peoples. Satan rules in the Spirit world as a POWER..........but there are PHYSICAL KIGDOMS that rule as POWERS also.

I see the four beast's who are also described as four kings in Daniel 7:17, the fourth beast of which being one king and yet also being comprised of 7 kings according to Revelation 17, being the world's four socio-economic type systems, comprised of first world nations, socialist type nations, third world nations, and nations that have a mixture of systems, as some of those in the Middle East. 

I also see the four beasts who represent all the world's governments in Daniel 7, and who all join together as one with the main 7 headed 10 horned beast in Revelation 13, as the four horsemen in Revelation 6.

[Revelation Man]

4 hours ago, luigi said:

I see the four beast's who are also described as four kings in Daniel 7:17, the fourth beast of which being one king and yet also being comprised of 7 kings according to Revelation 17, being the world's four socio-economic type systems, comprised of first world nations, socialist type nations, third world nations, and nations that have a mixture of systems, as some of those in the Middle East. 

I also see the four beasts who represent all the world's governments in Daniel 7, and who all join together as one with the main 7 headed 10 horned beast in Revelation 13, as the four horsemen in Revelation 6.

The Fourth Beast has nothing to do with the 7 kings of Rev. 17, save two of the heads arrive out of the fourth Beasts kingdom, that is Rome and the Anti-Christ. 

24 And the ten horns out of this kingdom are ten kings that shall arise: and another shall rise after them; and he shall be diverse from the first, and he shall subdue three kings.

THIS ABOVE: Can not be talking about Rome and Babylon (The First) because Daniel 7:3 already explains that ALL the Beasts were DIVERSE, thus saying Rome is DIVERSE from the FIRST makes no sense, does it? Because verse 3 says they are ALL DIVERSE, thus verse 24 should say Rome is diverse from ALL three Beasts. Pssttt, its not talking about Babylon, Persia or Greece, its talking about the Anti-Christ will be DIVERSE from the First Beast that came out of Europe (Rome). HE......as in A Man will be DIVERSE from the First as in Rome. Well, a MAN Beast is different from a Kingdom Dynasty, of course. This shows us the Fourth Beast Kingdom has TWO BEASTS that arise out of it. A Kingdom Beast...........Then 2000 some odd years later a MAN BEAST. The Anti-Christ/Little Horn. 

So, there are 5 Beasts there in total, one is called the Little Horn. 

The FOUR have nothing to do with the End Times, its the 5th Beast/Little Horn/Anti-Christ. He's DIVERSE from the First (Rome). 

Gotta run to my Radiation Doc, todays my last treatment. 

God Bless.

 

Edited September 18, 2020 by Revelation Man

[luigi]

3 minutes ago, Revelation Man said:

The Fourth Beast has nothing to do with the 7 kings of Rev. 17, save two of the heads arrive out of the fourth Beasts kingdom, that is Rome and the Anti-Christ. 

24 And the ten horns out of this kingdom are ten kings that shall arise: and another shall rise after them; and he shall be diverse from the first, and he shall subdue three kings.

THIS ABOVE: Can not be talking about Rome and Babylon (The First) because Daniel 7:3 already explains that ALL the Beasts were DIVERSE, thus saying Rome is DIVERSE from the FIRST makes no sense, does it? Because verse 3 says they ae ALL DIVERSE, these verse 24 should say Rome is diverse from ALL three Beasts. Pssttt, its not talking about Babylon, Persia or Greece, its talking about the Anti-Christ will be DIVERSE from the First Beast that came out of Europe (Rome). HE......a Man will be DIVERSE from the First. Well, a MAN Beast is different from a Kingdom Dynasty, of course. This shows us the Fourth Beast Kingdom has TWO BEASTS that arise out of it. A Kingdom Beast...........Then 2000 some odd years later a MAN BEAST. The Anti-Christ/Little Horn. 

So, there are 5 Beasts there in total, one is called the Little Horn. 

The FOUR have nothing to do with the End Times, its the 5th Beast/Little Horn/Anti-Christ. Hes DIVERSE from the First (Rome). 

Gotta run to my Radiation Doc, todays my last treatment. 

God Bless.

 

The fourth beast of ten horns in Daniel 7 is the same beast of 10 horns in Revelation 13. The only difference from the 4 beasts in Daniel 7 from the beast in Revelation 13 is that the four beasts in Daniel 7 are independent of each other (as the world's nations are today), while the beast in Revelation 13 has joined with all 4 four of the beasts in Daniel 7, as will be when the beasts new world order is initiated.

[Revelation Man]

3 hours ago, luigi said:

The fourth beast of ten horns in Daniel 7 is the same beast of 10 horns in Revelation 13.

Here is where everyone gets confused/goes off course, and I can't blame them, I only saw this about a month ago IN FULL, even though I had the framework down pat pretty much, the 10 Horns represents a........FRACTURED EUROPE.........not 10 End Time Kings per se. I found this by chance why researching God's use of Numbers in Revelation via the 144,000, so I said to me self (LOL) let me study the way God uses Numbers. So I did.

I found out whenever 10 and 7 us used it means COMPLETENESS, thus in Revelation the 7 Spirits and 7 Eyes only means God is everywhere and sees all things. Also, whenever 7 and 10 are used in conjunction, the number 7 always overrides the number 10. The number 12 means fullness, thus, the 144,000 = 12 x 12 x 10[ooo] which means ALL Israel, hardly anyone gets this is metaphoric in nature, it describes the 1/3 of the Jews who REPENT and Flee Judea when they see the AoD Jesus told them to be on the look out for. Now, for this understanding I have back-up scriptures that point this out as being correct.

The 7 Churches in Rev. 2 and 3 are not specific time frames, they are specific types of Churches throughout the 2000 some odd year Church Age period. Thus when God speaks to the Church of Smyrna, he tells them you will have Tribulation for 10 days !! Which means for the WHOLE CHURCH AGE.

Rev. 2:10 Fear none of those things which thou shalt suffer: behold, the devil shall cast some of you into prison, that ye may be tried; and ye shall have tribulation ten days: be thou faithful unto death, and I will give thee a crown of life.

Here, the 10 days is OBVIOUSLLY speaking about a specific time period where God can not answer how long it will be because God has not even told Jesus what day He is returning on. So here the Church Ages COMPLETENESS = 10 Days. The Whole Church Age = 10 Days.

The (10) Ten Commandments represents the FULLNESS of Gods Moral Codes, its not the Fullness of His massive Laws however, as we know it was for more vast in nature than just the 10, but the 10 Commandments stood in its place and represented God's Moral Code in general. So, the number 10 stands in for Completeness, so lets move on to how the number 10 is used via the Fourth Beast.

So, Rome arises as a Beast, then 10 Kings that are FRACTURED (remember, add in what we know from Daniel 2, they are as Iron & Clay, they will not cleave to one another, EVEN when they tried via the SEED of Men, or Royal Marriage) ARISE out of the Head of the Fourth Beast, which means a BUNCH OF Smaller Kingdoms (Kings) arise, and they are called 10, which means the Complete Number at any given time, it simply means out of Rome's HEAD arises a FRACTURED EUROPE, the number of Kings/Kingdoms from the time Rome fell, to the time the E.U. came back together in the 50s-70s during the 20th Century could have been many a varied numbers and varied times, but the number 10 stands for the FRACTURED EUROPE, that was a Iron and Clay, they could not reform into a Beast Kingdom, try as they might, until Israel was BREATHED on again and it BONES were told to live again, by God Himself. Amen. 

So, the 10 that ARISES out of his Head simply means the Kingdom of Rome received a Mortal Wound as a Beast Kingdom, and 10 ( A BUNCH of Kings/Kingdoms arose out of his head/Kingdom) arose, which only represents a Fracture Europe.....THEN LATER the Little Horn Arises amongst the 10 (which can mean 26 or 27). 

It is the same territory, its not the same Beast, there was a BEAST.......then there was NO BEAST for 2000 some odd years. The Little Horn is a 5th Beast that arises during the End Times out of the Fourth Beasts territory. Amongst the FRACTURED Europe Kingdoms that realign during the End Times. 

4 hours ago, luigi said:

The only difference from the 4 beasts in Daniel 7 from the beast in Revelation 13 is that the four beasts in Daniel 7 are independent of each other (as the world's nations are today), while the beast in Revelation 13 has joined with all 4 four of the beasts in Daniel 7, as will be when the beasts new world order is initiated.

This is just not the case, the Beast of Rev. 13 is John looking back through time at the 7 Beast Heads, which is why he cites the Lion, the Bear, and the Leopard. He also cites Rome there, if we are very keen we can see it, Rome is the Beast that receives the Mortal Wound, and the Anti-Christ/Man Beast/666/Little Horn is the Beast Head that REVIVES the 7 Headed FIGURATIVE BEAST.

Its like me drawing an IMAGINARY BEAST on a Pape that represents Egypt, Assyria, Babylon, Persia, Greece and Rome, they all could have been drawn over 2000 years ago as being DOMINANT KINGDOMS that ruled over Israel/MSR, but if i could live that long, try as I might, I could not draw that 7th Had for 2000 years because Israel was not a Nation in the region for 2000 years, so its impossible to rule of Israel and the MSR until Israel is reborn as a Nation (1948)..........NOW............and only now can I draw in that 7th Beast Head on this FIGURATIVE BEAST. It has nothing to do with the other 6 Beasts Brother, they have all lost Dominion. 

The Whole World probably comes together to fight God, but those Beasts are long gone. The 7 is showing the Kingdoms down through the ages brother. 

[luigi]

1 hour ago, Revelation Man said:

 

This is just not the case, the Beast of Rev. 13 is John looking back through time at the 7 Beast Heads, which is why he cites the Lion, the Bear, and the Leopard. He also cites Rome there, if we are very keen we can see it, Rome is the Beast that receives the Mortal Wound, and the Anti-Christ/Man Beast/666/Little Horn is the Beast Head that REVIVES the 7 Headed FIGURATIVE BEAST.

Its like me drawing an IMAGINARY BEAST on a Pape that represents Egypt, Assyria, Babylon, Persia, Greece and Rome, they all could have been drawn over 2000 years ago as being DOMINANT KINGDOMS that ruled over Israel/MSR, but if i could live that long, try as I might, I could not draw that 7th Had for 2000 years because Israel was not a Nation in the region for 2000 years, so its impossible to rule of Israel and the MSR until Israel is reborn as a Nation (1948)..........NOW............and only now can I draw in that 7th Beast Head on this FIGURATIVE BEAST. It has nothing to do with the other 6 Beasts Brother, they have all lost Dominion. 

The Whole World probably comes together to fight God, but those Beasts are long gone. The 7 is showing the Kingdoms down through the ages brother. 

You may claim they are different beasts, but you have the same descriptions of lion, bear, leopard, along with the fourth beast of ten horns in Daniel 7 who are separate from each other, that in Revelation 13 are joined to each other.