would like everyones opinion

[godslilpromise]

I believe that God alone is the judge of all people. Not man. I know that when Jesus returns he will reward everyone according to their works. But, I have a question about the position we should take when we are wronged in a brutal way that is something that we should maybe not just overlook.

My husband was a christian when he came together with me five years ago. I believe in what the bible says about a christian loving another christian. We are suppossed to be there for one another and protect each other. This is/was my own husband. My husband had a way of hiding the bad things that were happening to him. He wouldn't tell me about them(i don't always know the reason why) but one point at the job he is currently working at, a man that was his foreman was being indecent towards all the young guys that were working there. (i wont go into details) but i will just say that it would to me be assault and battery. He never mentioned this to a police officer or to a lawyer(the more common route). He was too afraid of losing his job. Many other young men that worked under this guy were treated the same way. one young boy that stood up to him was later fired. his father was encouraging him to sue. This is where my question comes in. I don't know but I think that alot of what my husband was doing to me was coming a lot from this situation at his job. I don't know this for a fact though. regardless, I am about to be going into the paralegal field. I will soon have access to lawyers and attorneys as well as better money. I am trying to make a decision as to what position to take with my husband, but i also want to sue the company in question, who committed these assaults on my husband. i dont know if i should, or just sit passively by(maybe not passively, maybe let God deal out his own justice towards the perpetrators). what would anybody else do. would you sue or would you let God have his own say? should we as christians take matters into our own hands? what would be the correct thing to do in this whole situation? any ideas.

Edited July 30, 2005 by godslilpromise

[refugepsa91]

For one thing if what this guy is doing is comparable to assualt and battery then he should be turned in...to the company first then to the police. Period.

This isn't something that you have to turn the other cheek on...he has got to be taken out of a position where he can't abuse anymore young men...or anyone else for that matter.

As far as sueing for a monetary award...I would be alot more interested in seeing justice served to this man...

Love and Blessings,

Angel

[Work in Progress]

For one thing if what this guy is doing is comparable to assualt and battery then he should be turned in...to the company first then to the police. Period.

I agree.

Christians aren't to sue Christians but to take their matters before the Church for settling.

But with non Christians? I don't know - I would think it would be okay- that's what our court system is for, right?

I don't think you, personally, would have a case though. It would be your husband (the victim) that would have to sue, right?

I wish you well in your new endeavors. More money - hey, that's always a good (and much needed) thing!

[other one]

I agree with the last two. I would not try and make money on any of it, and I have lived that for a long time. But to loose a good job over it might not be the smartest thing to do either. That is something that must be weighed carefully.

Money does not by happiness, but it can stave off hunger, and I don't think anyone here has the right to tell you to sacrifice a good job over something that you most likely can't stop anyway. A letter to higher management not signed just explaining the situation will do the same as putting your job on the line. If they are interested in fixing the problem they will, but a lot of companies these days instruct their foreman to really push people and it may well be coming from above and you just don't know it..... Don't know from not being there.

Do be careful though if your husband likes his job and/or needs it.

Just pray over it and ask the Lord for instructions.

But I do say not to try and make money from it, and I do live what I preach on that.

se

[godslilpromise]

the thought of money is not entering my mind. what enters my mind is all the suffering me and him have been through in the span of two short years. nobody has the right to touch somebody on a job, any job. it's sick and despicable. it makes me sick to my stomach that there are people in this world that think that it's a necessary evil to pushing people for the sake of a company(if thats what these guys are doing) frankly i think they SHould pay through the nose for the things they are allowing to happen to employees that innocently sign on with them. we put our trust in those who employ us to fair and honest. it's a sad day in these great United States when somebody picks on a young person, and directs sexual innuendo towards them all for the sake of feeling powerful, don't you think? Essentialy, thats what has taken place.

i know we are not suppossed to bring wrath on another person, God deals out his own perfect justice. But I must say I feel that what these people allowed to happen and what they have been doing(for only God knows how long) needs to be exposed and something needs to be done about it. Sorry, I just get so ticked at the thought of what has been going on. Funny thing, he punched the guy in the shoulder(told him he shouldn't have done that) but he felt good to have stood up for himself. The guy goes to say that he could have him arrested(he could have) but the funny thing is that this guy was doing a whole lot worse stuff and my husband just shut up and took it. I wanted to go about it through legal avenues. But then, feel the desire to allow God to handle it.

Now it's five months later, my husband hurt me and he's out of my life. How much of this was because of these guys? I have suffered because of these guys humiliating my husband in front of other guys(men) while he is trying to work. How embarrasing and defacing is it for a man to have to get sexually harrassed by another man. How many men could just 'grin and bear it'. I mean who would put up with that? Money is not an issue although i feel like it would be justice for them to have to hurt for what they do(did). this guy is STill employed, this program still runs. When i met my husband he was someone who knew the stories of the bible, and he took it so seriously. when my husband is leaving he is now someone who doesn't care about anybody on this planet, not even me. he know has an injunction served on him because i'm afraid of him because he gets physically violent with me. I don't know what happened? Calling the police was a last resort and i felt like i was doing the wrong thing that night. but what do i do??? This was not my life.

anyways, i appreciate all the feedback. i have been asking for an answer from God for a while. Nothing yet.

Edited July 30, 2005 by godslilpromise

[Trust & Obey]

Paul said that Christians shouldn't be taking other believers to court before the world.

Yet, there is no mention of suing non-believers. I think it depends on the situation. Where do you feel the Spirit leading? Have you sought God over this?

[Khristeeanos]

1 Corinthians 6

1If any of you has a dispute with another, dare he take it before the ungodly for judgment instead of before the saints? 2Do you not know that the saints will judge the world? And if you are to judge the world, are you not competent to judge trivial cases? 3Do you not know that we will judge angels? How much more the things of this life! 4Therefore, if you have disputes about such matters, appoint as judges even men of little account in the church! 5I say this to shame you. Is it possible that there is nobody among you wise enough to judge a dispute between believers? 6But instead, one brother goes to law against another

[godslilpromise]

I have talked to him about it. No answers as of yet. this year i'm trying to reenter school, and get on with my life and met my own needs. I don't talk to my husband. I'm not going to live with someone who is physically abusing me(for any reason). My husband has been in court. I didn't press charges, although if i had it would have been completely fair! I just don't know what is going on with this person i trusted at one time!! Too many bad things happening and coming together at one time?? now everything is messed up?? I don't have any answers as to what is what. I only know some base details(like what was happening at his job with that foreman) and with another foreman. I don't know about my husbands life anymore(not like he ever told me to much anyways) what a complicated situation.

[Artemus Prime]

*has never thought about the implications of this subject before....hmm....*

AP