It's Supernatural

[Dennis1209]

Lately there have been threads and topics dealing with ouija boards and tinkering with the supernatural spiritual world. What if that tinkering became full blown and is on steroids, with billions spent? I'd like to hear your thoughts and opinions. What do you think the results may produce if they are successful; I'm speaking of The Large Hadron Collider (LHC) at CERN. Is it for scientific research or delving into the supernatural spirit world and other dimensions? I propose the latter. The Higgs boson particle; appropriately dubbed "the God particle".

In the tribulation there's going to be angels with keys to the bottomless pit, releasing monster supernatural locusts, four bad, bad angels confined under the River Euphrates, etc.. What if the Lord in part, gave the keys to those angels because of mans efforts in trying to conjure up the spirits? Okay boy's, you tried, now here they are.

In a number of places in the Bible; heaven opened; doors of heaven opened. In modern terms, we would say a 'gate' or 'portal' opened to another dimension. The Lord allowed the Witch of Endor to conjure up Samuel for Saul. The goings on at CERN don't seem to be benign, benevolent, scientific and innocent for more reasons that I'm going to mention. 

There's no doubt they are looking for the key to another dimension. Your thoughts?

 

 

 

 

[Michael37]

36 minutes ago, Dennis1209 said:

I'd like to hear your thoughts and opinions. What do you think the results may produce if they are successful; I'm speaking of The Large Hadron Collider (LHC) at CERN. Is it for scientific research or delving into the supernatural spirit world and other dimensions? I propose the latter. The Higgs boson particle; appropriately dubbed "the God particle".

You have a concern about CERN.

Even though scientists by definition are engaged in observing, measuring, recording, repeating, and predicting what happens in the natural, physical realm of matter and energy, we know that the principalities and powers of this darkened world will use anyone and anything they can to corrupt, deceive, and exploit.

Some of the most scientifically gifted people believe in God and the Bible, but others are convinced that human intelligence is supreme and so worship at its shrine.

Recently on TV news it was stated that our Government is looking at buying the latest facial recognition program to be installed in every conceivable nook and cranny so that our society is completely dependant on technology at every point in time and space. The trouble is that now so many people are wearing masks these may be required to have trackable coded ID chips or the wearer gets arrested... 

[Dennis1209]

48 minutes ago, Michael37 said:

You have a concern about CERN.

Even though scientists by definition are engaged in observing, measuring, recording, repeating, and predicting what happens in the natural, physical realm of matter and energy, we know that the principalities and powers of this darkened world will use anyone and anything they can to corrupt, deceive, and exploit.

Some of the most scientifically gifted people believe in God and the Bible, but others are convinced that human intelligence is supreme and so worship at its shrine.

Recently on TV news it was stated that our Government is looking at buying the latest facial recognition program to be installed in every conceivable nook and cranny so that our society is completely dependant on technology at every point in time and space. The trouble is that now so many people are wearing masks these may be required to have trackable coded ID chips or the wearer gets arrested... 

Well, that's one of my points I was going to expound on; our technology. The technology being used at CERN and all the other advanced technologies, how it's panning out today, and how it will used in the tribulation. Whom first funds, grants and confiscates advanced technologies for the use of war and control of people, [governments & military]. How will the Antichrist control all buying and selling; get rid of those whom don't worship him and go along with the program? All that technology is here and being implemented right now. Everything you do is being recorded, filtered and monitored. Artificial intelligence is now way beyond the videos of "Sophie the Robot" of Youtube. Algorithm's are being phased out and replaced with AI. Siri, Alexa, your phone, computer, etc. are spying on us.

Just as with CERN, they are not searching for a cure for cancer; they're looking to theories and physics to unwrap the mysteries of creation and trying to break into another dimension; dabbling into the spiritual realm. Just like Wernher von Braun when asked,"how did Germany get 50 years ahead of the world in technology so quickly", he replied, "we had help". I believe CERN is getting some of that 'help' also. Their research and discoveries will not be used for the benefit of mankind.

Revelation 19:19 (KJV) And I saw the beast, and the kings of the earth, and their armies, gathered together to make war against him that sat on the horse, and against his army.

I've often thought, what arrogance, what gall these evil spiritual beings and human have; to make was against their Creator and think they have a chance? I suspect with all this evil supernatural power and beings, a lot of advanced technology is in play also?

It's a blessing to live in this generation and see all these things advancing, aligning and coming to a prophetic climax. 

Edited October 16, 2020 by Dennis1209

[teddyv]

I remember the early days of the LHC where people seemed to think that there were going to be black holes spawned because of it and destroy the earth. As far as delving into the supernatural with a machine, I'm not sure that's even possible. That would suggest that the supernatural is in fact not supernatural. 

Fun fact, the Higg's Boson while sometimes referred to as the "God Particle", it was originally coined as the "G-----m Particle" because of it's difficulty in detection.

[other one]

Kind of like Hubble, there are different people looking at and for different things.  So, it really depends on who you ask to get at the things they are looking for.

[Starise]

On 10/16/2020 at 4:42 PM, Dennis1209 said:

Lately there have been threads and topics dealing with ouija boards and tinkering with the supernatural spiritual world. What if that tinkering became full blown and is on steroids, with billions spent? I'd like to hear your thoughts and opinions. What do you think the results may produce if they are successful; I'm speaking of The Large Hadron Collider (LHC) at CERN. Is it for scientific research or delving into the supernatural spirit world and other dimensions? I propose the latter. The Higgs boson particle; appropriately dubbed "the God particle".

In the tribulation there's going to be angels with keys to the bottomless pit, releasing monster supernatural locusts, four bad, bad angels confined under the River Euphrates, etc.. What if the Lord in part, gave the keys to those angels because of mans efforts in trying to conjure up the spirits? Okay boy's, you tried, now here they are.

In a number of places in the Bible; heaven opened; doors of heaven opened. In modern terms, we would say a 'gate' or 'portal' opened to another dimension. The Lord allowed the Witch of Endor to conjure up Samuel for Saul. The goings on at CERN don't seem to be benign, benevolent, scientific and innocent for more reasons that I'm going to mention. 

There's no doubt they are looking for the key to another dimension. Your thoughts?

 

 

 

 

 

I was caught up for some time investigating CERN as deeply as I could. There's at least one pastor preaching a sermon specifically on it. YouTube is full of videos on CERN. 

YouTube as you know is potentially a very unreliable source of information. One gets the impression more free information comes from there than from most TV networks or similar. Free as in less policing the messages. Lately that hasn't been the case as certain channels are being squelched. Not to mention shameless liars who are looking to get play counts and could care less if it's true or not. It's fairly east to make a video, put an enticing picture on it and post it up. For the layman who simply wants to know the answers it can be a veritable mine field. There's more than one collider, but CERN is the largest one. 

The occult is anything that tries to do what God does without God. There's God's agenda and then there's Satan's secret agenda. I call it boiling the frog. Put a frog in a pot of water and turn the heat up slowly and he won't notice he's being boiled to death. This is Satan's "agenda". To initiate a grand scheme that will eventually have Him in complete control of the planet working through the anti-christ. The Bible states his spirit is alive and well presently.

The goal of CERN is to play God and I would guess much of it's support and funding has come from those who are trying to punch a hole in space time. Some of them are simply what people call atheists. They might not realize they are really playing into the hands of the evil one. Some of them are probably occultists and Satanists. CERN is one of the largest and most expensive things man has ever made and so far we have heard very little about what it actually does or has done.

There are a few external things about CERN that point to it being less than an unbiased scientific organization. I believe the statue out front indicates more than it simply being an innocent gift from the Hindu community. The bizarre opening ceremony was blatant occult imagery, much like a modern pop concert. 

Jesus said in Acts 1:7 " It is not for you to know the times or seasons" Punching a hole in time/space would seem to circumvent that. 

Daniel 7:25 NIV says- He will speak against the Most High and oppress his holy people and try to change the set times and the laws. The holy people will be delivered into his hands for a time, times and half a time.

Most translations make this seem that "times and seasons" or in the NIV " times and laws" means trying to change festivals dates or something similar. Some versions say it as the AC will "think to change" or "try to change". This would seem to say that the AC was misguided or really didn't totally accomplish his goals.

To be clear, the RC church has in fact added and combined pagan holidays with so called Christian holidays that have lived on to be called Christmas and Easter. We are not commanded or even expected to observe those holidays. Most protestant denominations follow right along with all of it. Christians should be worshipping Jesus all year and not a baby on Christmas. 

In my opinion the "times" mentioned in Daniel 7:25 could be time warping or time bending. Not something ancient men would have even considered. In light of recent technology it's a strong possibility. Maybe you've heard of the Philadelphia experiment? Time is a construct and it can be tampered with. Men have no idea what they are doing though. CERN in my opinion is like when men first tried to make flying machines. Yes it seems complicated and it's doing something, however, they still have no earthly idea what they are doing. Only God knows what to do. Who knows? CERN could be responsible for some of the cataclysmic events that will happen in the future. Quite the opposite from progress.

In the end though God is sovereign. To coin an old phrase, "You can't touch dis". The info I've seen on CERN in the negative often tries to make us fearful. We have no reason to be fearful as Christians. Let them rip earth in two and bring on their own demise. We wait for anew heaven and a new earth.

Edited October 18, 2020 by Starise

[teddyv]

So, what is everyone doing at all the other colliders around the world?

The LHC was successful in verifying a prediction for one of the most fundamental particles of the universe. That's why these things get built.

There is no secret cabal of satanists or atheists running the machine to open portals to whatever. 

[Dennis1209]

9 hours ago, Starise said:

 

I was caught up for some time investigating CERN as deeply as I could. There's at least one pastor preaching a sermon specifically on it. YouTube is full of videos on CERN. 

YouTube as you know is potentially a very unreliable source of information. One gets the impression more free information comes from there than from most TV networks or similar. Free as in less policing the messages. Lately that hasn't been the case as certain channels are being squelched. Not to mention shameless liars who are looking to get play counts and could care less if it's true or not. It's fairly east to make a video, put an enticing picture on it and post it up. For the layman who simply wants to know the answers it can be a veritable mine field. There's more than one collider, but CERN is the largest one. 

The occult is anything that tries to do what God does without God. There's God's agenda and then there's Satan's secret agenda. I call it boiling the frog. Put a frog in a pot of water and turn the heat up slowly and he won't notice he's being boiled to death. This is Satan's "agenda". To initiate a grand scheme that will eventually have Him in complete control of the planet working through the anti-christ. The Bible states his spirit is alive and well presently.

The goal of CERN is to play God and I would guess much of it's support and funding has come from those who are trying to punch a hole in space time. Some of them are simply what people call atheists. They might not realize they are really playing into the hands of the evil one. Some of them are probably occultists and Satanists. CERN is one of the largest and most expensive things man has ever made and so far we have heard very little about what it actually does or has done.

There are a few external things about CERN that point to it being less than an unbiased scientific organization. I believe the statue out front indicates more than it simply being an innocent gift from the Hindu community. The bizarre opening ceremony was blatant occult imagery, much like a modern pop concert. 

Jesus said in Acts 1:7 " It is not for you to know the times or seasons" Punching a hole in time/space would seem to circumvent that. 

Daniel 7:25 NIV says- He will speak against the Most High and oppress his holy people and try to change the set times and the laws. The holy people will be delivered into his hands for a time, times and half a time.

Most translations make this seem that "times and seasons" or in the NIV " times and laws" means trying to change festivals dates or something similar. Some versions say it as the AC will "think to change" or "try to change". This would seem to say that the AC was misguided or really didn't totally accomplish his goals.

To be clear, the RC church has in fact added and combined pagan holidays with so called Christian holidays that have lived on to be called Christmas and Easter. We are not commanded or even expected to observe those holidays. Most protestant denominations follow right along with all of it. Christians should be worshipping Jesus all year and not a baby on Christmas. 

In my opinion the "times" mentioned in Daniel 7:25 could be time warping or time bending. Not something ancient men would have even considered. In light of recent technology it's a strong possibility. Maybe you've heard of the Philadelphia experiment? Time is a construct and it can be tampered with. Men have no idea what they are doing though. CERN in my opinion is like when men first tried to make flying machines. Yes it seems complicated and it's doing something, however, they still have no earthly idea what they are doing. Only God knows what to do. Who knows? CERN could be responsible for some of the cataclysmic events that will happen in the future. Quite the opposite from progress.

In the end though God is sovereign. To coin an old phrase, "You can't touch dis". The info I've seen on CERN in the negative often tries to make us fearful. We have no reason to be fearful as Christians. Let them rip earth in two and bring on their own demise. We wait for anew heaven and a new earth.

Those are exactly my thoughts and conclusions. There's just too many odd things and symbolic gestures concerning CERN that don't add up, unless there's more to it. I'd have to re-check my sources [might be a book from Thomas Horn?] but; evidently a former director of CERN spilled some beans and said something to the effect of; sending something through or getting something from the otherside. Dimensional and spiritual go hand in hand and I'm sure they are more than aware of that. 

Again from memory: Why did CERN decide to 'bury' the LHC at that precise location. Right at the border line of two sovereign nations [Switzerland and France]. Could it be there's something historically and spiritually 'special' about that precise location? Why does a scientific organization [CERN] hold an official seat as a United Nations observer; as well as a 'religious' institution [Vatican]? The Vatican and their legal court battles with the Native Americans over Mt. Graham and their observatory is another intriguing story. 

At any rate; it's my personal opinion they are not seeking knowledge for scientific purposes for the betterment and advancement of mankind; but rather to fulfill an agenda. We see the role of the United Nations shaping up and organizing end-time events and their quest for global control. I'm wondering if CERN and the Large Hadron Collider will play a role in unlocking the abyss and opening a portal? Conspiracy no, that's exactly what they're trying to accomplish. The Restrainer is currently restraining. 

1 Corinthians 13:12 (KJV) For now we see through a glass, darkly; but then face to face: now I know in part; but then shall I know even as also I am known.

That glass seems to be clearing up a bit.

Daniel 12:4 (KJV) But thou, O Daniel, shut up the words, and seal the book, even to the time of the end: many shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall be increased.  [Emphasis added]

The 'book' seems to be opening? The last seven years is filled with the supernatural events and activities, to the point that it seems the supernatural becomes the natural. Earth dwellers seeing and hearing a "flying angel" preaching the Gospel; ho hum, nothing to see here citizen, move on. 

As you're probably aware: Major new media is covering and showing video recordings of fighter pilots chasing UFO'S, and official active military personnel coming forth commenting on it [a soft disclosure]. The changes of military procedures, protocol and reporting. Now no one can dispute the existence of these objects that defy our laws of physics. I'm personally thinking these objects are dimensional meant for conditioning and a deception. 

Times, they are a getting interesting! 

[Mantis]

11 hours ago, Starise said:

 

I was caught up for some time investigating CERN as deeply as I could. There's at least one pastor preaching a sermon specifically on it. YouTube is full of videos on CERN. 

YouTube as you know is potentially a very unreliable source of information. One gets the impression more free information comes from there than from most TV networks or similar. Free as in less policing the messages. Lately that hasn't been the case as certain channels are being squelched. Not to mention shameless liars who are looking to get play counts and could care less if it's true or not. It's fairly east to make a video, put an enticing picture on it and post it up. For the layman who simply wants to know the answers it can be a veritable mine field. There's more than one collider, but CERN is the largest one. 

The occult is anything that tries to do what God does without God. There's God's agenda and then there's Satan's secret agenda. I call it boiling the frog. Put a frog in a pot of water and turn the heat up slowly and he won't notice he's being boiled to death. This is Satan's "agenda". To initiate a grand scheme that will eventually have Him in complete control of the planet working through the anti-christ. The Bible states his spirit is alive and well presently.

The goal of CERN is to play God and I would guess much of it's support and funding has come from those who are trying to punch a hole in space time. Some of them are simply what people call atheists. They might not realize they are really playing into the hands of the evil one. Some of them are probably occultists and Satanists. CERN is one of the largest and most expensive things man has ever made and so far we have heard very little about what it actually does or has done.

There are a few external things about CERN that point to it being less than an unbiased scientific organization. I believe the statue out front indicates more than it simply being an innocent gift from the Hindu community. The bizarre opening ceremony was blatant occult imagery, much like a modern pop concert. 

Jesus said in Acts 1:7 " It is not for you to know the times or seasons" Punching a hole in time/space would seem to circumvent that. 

Daniel 7:25 NIV says- He will speak against the Most High and oppress his holy people and try to change the set times and the laws. The holy people will be delivered into his hands for a time, times and half a time.

Most translations make this seem that "times and seasons" or in the NIV " times and laws" means trying to change festivals dates or something similar. Some versions say it as the AC will "think to change" or "try to change". This would seem to say that the AC was misguided or really didn't totally accomplish his goals.

To be clear, the RC church has in fact added and combined pagan holidays with so called Christian holidays that have lived on to be called Christmas and Easter. We are not commanded or even expected to observe those holidays. Most protestant denominations follow right along with all of it. Christians should be worshipping Jesus all year and not a baby on Christmas. 

In my opinion the "times" mentioned in Daniel 7:25 could be time warping or time bending. Not something ancient men would have even considered. In light of recent technology it's a strong possibility. Maybe you've heard of the Philadelphia experiment? Time is a construct and it can be tampered with. Men have no idea what they are doing though. CERN in my opinion is like when men first tried to make flying machines. Yes it seems complicated and it's doing something, however, they still have no earthly idea what they are doing. Only God knows what to do. Who knows? CERN could be responsible for some of the cataclysmic events that will happen in the future. Quite the opposite from progress.

In the end though God is sovereign. To coin an old phrase, "You can't touch dis". The info I've seen on CERN in the negative often tries to make us fearful. We have no reason to be fearful as Christians. Let them rip earth in two and bring on their own demise. We wait for anew heaven and a new earth.

I kind of think when the anti-Christ will try to “change times” He may change the year. Like a reset. Instead of basing time of the birth of Jesus he would make it year one or something. So he gets the recognition of time.

[teddyv]

I'm pretty sure they built it there because of the existing colliders at an existing researc facilty. There sheer size of it coupled with geography meant it had to cross the border. With both nations in the EU the border is fairly irrelevant anyway.

Edited October 18, 2020 by teddyv
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