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On 11/12/2020 at 12:58 PM, missmuffet said:

Time will tell.

Yes time will tell.  This is what to look for. As time passes they will begin to realize something is not going as they were told. They will start getting edgy  about facing the beast. Many will abandon thee church in fear. because we have foreknowledge the true identity of the beast may not be reveled yet. This may be the great falling away that some say means desertion.


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19 hours ago, Mike Mclees said:

Yes time will tell.  This is what to look for. As time passes they will begin to realize something is not going as they were told. They will start getting edgy  about facing the beast. Many will abandon thee church in fear. because we have foreknowledge the true identity of the beast may not be reveled yet. This may be the great falling away that some say means desertion.

There will be a time in the near future when many will disappear. It will be one of the most tragic times in the history of our world. 


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3 hours ago, missmuffet said:

There will be a time in the near future when many will disappear. It will be one of the most tragic times in the history of our world. 

You will have to make this a little more clear


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4 hours ago, Mike Mclees said:

You will have to make this a little more clear

This catastrophe will happen fast and then the 7 year tribulation will be ushered in. The Bible does not tell us the timing between the rapture of the Church and the start of the 7 year tribulation. 


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On 11/11/2020 at 3:32 PM, Mike Mclees said:

This is a scary chapter where we read about the Beast from the sea and the beast of the earth. The antichrist and the false prophet Also in this chapter comes a dire warning to the believers in Christ. We are not to take the Mark of the beast or you shall be dammed. This warning is for the believers after the antichrist declares he is god which is 3&1/2 years after the church is already gone. Hmmm Sounds strange right?

They explain that by creating a new set of people called 'tribulation saints'. These are not 'pretrib rapture saints' but saints due hideous conditions for impurity from which fundamentally holy and purely righteous 'pretrib rapture saints' are immune; all due to their sinless and holy lives of perfect obedience.

It's not true of course. You asked the right question. 


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On 11/15/2020 at 7:17 PM, missmuffet said:

This catastrophe will happen fast and then the 7 year tribulation will be ushered in. The Bible does not tell us the timing between the rapture of the Church and the start of the 7 year tribulation. 

And that is because no such timing exists. Timing that contradicts the pretrib rapture does exist. No one is going anywhere early. Where we go one, we go all.

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On 11/12/2020 at 2:58 PM, missmuffet said:

Time will tell.

For those who have the patience to wait for it peace in the understanding...
 


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No peace agreement seen in Ez. 38, Dan. 9. Where is it?


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On 11/11/2020 at 5:32 PM, Mike Mclees said:

According to pre trib believers when the Middle East nations agree to peace with Israel that is the beginning of the final seven years and those who are of the right church that believes this doctrine will be swept up before any antichrist persecution and  seven years of Gods wrath. Any that are left behind will face 7 terrible years. What happens after the seven years is completed is still left to  the imagination I guess. Have I stated it as you  believe? This is as it was when I was in a pre Trib church and believed every  word.

As time and maturity came things started to not add up. Now I don't like being long winded. So i  will get write to the first question that hit me just last week. There is more of course. OK the peace agreement was made According to pre trib belief you  are now gone to heaven. I was reading from Revelation Chapter 13. This is a scary chapter where we read about the Beast from the sea and the beast of the earth. The antichrist and the false prophet Also in this chapter comes a dire warning to the believers in Christ. We are not to take the Mark of the beast or you shall be dammed. This warning is for the believers after the antichrist declares he is god which is 3&1/2 years after the church is already gone. Hmmm Sounds strange right?

It is obvious-there is no pre trib rapture. It is totally untrue.

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2 hours ago, Uriah said:

It is obvious-there is no pre trib rapture. It is totally untrue.

Suit yourself. 

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