Can vaccinations be weaponized?

[Guest]

6 hours ago, anynmsfmly said:

Another Source: COVID-19 Vaccines

Science Magazine Article on Vaccines: Science Magazine

[walla299]

1 hour ago, other one said:

I have several friends who have attracted this virus and though only two of them have died, those that survived have some serious problems...    some are old and some are not.   I don't think people are considering and documenting the damage the virus is doing to those that survive.  I only say that from personal experience with people I know...   I haven't read of anyone who id studying it, and maybe it's too soon for that.

I've read some reports of what they are calling "Covid Long Haulers." Those who caught the virus and still suffer long term after effects although its supposed to be in a small number of people who catch Covid. It would appear they are studying that as well. Since this is a new virus there is much to learn about its effects that will probably take years to learn. I'm not going to be first in line for the jab though, just in case of unexpected reactions to the vaccine.

[Logostician]

I think you'd have to ask the communist regime in China about that.  Of course, you won't get the truth.

China had their reasons for developing and spreading Covid throughout the world.  The USA and other countries are simply trying to play catch up and prevent the global economic destruction that China authored.  I don't think the rest of the world had time to add anything to their newly developed vaccines that would constitute a weapon.  But China had plenty of time to prepare a vaccine with whatever extra components they wanted before they ever even unleashed their Covid weapon on the world.  And they control almost every pharmaceutical compound precursor to make everything from pain releivers to vaccines.  Cornering these markets was no accident.  It was part of a well orchestrated, sytematic quest of global dominance, that includes biological weapons like Covid.  With their Tiananmen Square disregard for human life, and utter disdain for truthful disclosure of anything they do, nothing is beyond the pale for them.

Would China be willing to kill millions of people to solidify their position of global power?   You bet!  Would they deny and obscure their involvement in such operations every step of the way?  Yep!  Is power all that China really cares about?  Yes sir!  Is China collecting DNA information on individuals in social groups of multiple countries, including the USA, to be used as input into biological weapon targeting?  Yes they are!  And they are using the Covid vaçcination data, along with other, seemingly innocuous businesses entities to do it.

Most people are happier thinking that Covid occurred naturally in China in pangolins, or perhaps escaped lab animals from their highest level biological lab in Wuhan and eaten in a "wet market" that just so happens to also be in Wuhan.  What a coincidence huh?  It makes people uncomfortable to think that SARS viruses have been synthesized at this biological weapons lab for many years.  They would rather pretend that this lab doesn't exist, and that China would never actually use anything that this lab has been producing for many years.  They will beleive anything the Chinese state run media propoganda machine puts out.  And of course China has already killed more than a few real journalists who tried to expose the truth.  Do you trust them?  I don't!  At least the truth has a chance to eventually come to light in free societies but is aborted immediately in a communist regime when it does suit their narrative.

In a closed society, with little regard for human life, actively seeking global domination at any cost, with all of the technology to achieve this goal, what is out of bounds?  Nothing!

[NotAllThere]

7 hours ago, other one said:

When this first came out both New Zealand and Australia mapped the genome and there are several places where existing genes are duplicated to change the character of the virus so it will infect humans and extremely effectively....    It is statically impossible for nature to do that short of ten thousand years....     and it's not from a conspiracy place, just being observant from the very beginning and knowing where to look at the start before the covering up hits.....     No one that I am aware of in my circle thinks the virus is natural.   I'm surprised that you do.

 

Link to the  peer reviewed papers in respected journals or it's just unsubstantiated nonsense.

Here's one debunking the man-made idea. (Already referenced in this thread). https://www.nature.com/articles/s41591-020-0820-9 March 2020. 

Thus, the high-affinity binding of the SARS-CoV-2 spike protein to human ACE2 is most likely the result of natural selection on a human or human-like ACE2 that permits another optimal binding solution to arise. This is strong evidence that SARS-CoV-2 is not the product of purposeful manipulation.

 the genetic data irrefutably show that SARS-CoV-2 is not derived from any previously used virus backbone20

...we do not believe that any type of laboratory-based scenario is plausible.

And there's a video here that explains it in layman's terms why it's not probable that it was made in a lab.

https://www.businessinsider.com/coronavirus-lab-manmade-myth-debunked-2020-6?r=US&IR=T

It's not impossible that the virus was man made, but there is little evidence that it was, and plenty of evidence that it has arisen naturally.

There was a pre-review paper published by an Indian team that claimed evidence the it was man made, but it was withdrawn after other researchers pointed out flaws in the data. 

Edited December 9, 2020 by NotAllThere

[other one]

8 hours ago, walla299 said:

I've read some reports of what they are calling "Covid Long Haulers." Those who caught the virus and still suffer long term after effects although its supposed to be in a small number of people who catch Covid. It would appear they are studying that as well. Since this is a new virus there is much to learn about its effects that will probably take years to learn. I'm not going to be first in line for the jab though, just in case of unexpected reactions to the vaccine.

my sister in law has had most of the flu like symptoms three to 4 days a week since mid march.   It isn't getting any better at all.

[other one]

5 hours ago, NotAllThere said:

Link to the  peer reviewed papers in respected journals or it's just unsubstantiated nonsense.

Here's one debunking the man-made idea. (Already referenced in this thread). https://www.nature.com/articles/s41591-020-0820-9 March 2020. 

Thus, the high-affinity binding of the SARS-CoV-2 spike protein to human ACE2 is most likely the result of natural selection on a human or human-like ACE2 that permits another optimal binding solution to arise. This is strong evidence that SARS-CoV-2 is not the product of purposeful manipulation.

 the genetic data irrefutably show that SARS-CoV-2 is not derived from any previously used virus backbone20

...we do not believe that any type of laboratory-based scenario is plausible.

And there's a video here that explains it in layman's terms why it's not probable that it was made in a lab.

https://www.businessinsider.com/coronavirus-lab-manmade-myth-debunked-2020-6?r=US&IR=T

It's not impossible that the virus was man made, but there is little evidence that it was, and plenty of evidence that it has arisen naturally.

There was a pre-review paper published by an Indian team that claimed evidence the it was man made, but it was withdrawn after other researchers pointed out flaws in the data. 

yes and the same kind of people say that global warming is man made.....

[ladypeartree]

latest results of the vaccine being used in the UK recommend no one with allergies have it as apparently known allergy sufferers are suffering a reaction to it 

[ladypeartree]

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/health/medical/people-who-suffer-from-significant-allergic-reactions-should-not-take-covid-vaccine-uk-regulators-warn/ar-BB1bLBUv?ocid=msedgntp

[NotAllThere]

3 hours ago, other one said:

yes and the same kind of people say that global warming is man made.....

Ah the logical fallacy of guilt by association. Of course the evidence that global warming is man made is stronger than the counter evidence.

But that's just evidence of how deep the conspiracy runs... 

[NotAllThere]

3 hours ago, ladypeartree said:

latest results of the vaccine being used in the UK recommend no one with allergies have it as apparently known allergy sufferers are suffering a reaction to it 

No vaccine (and no medicine) is safe. It's a question of whether it's safer by a large enough margin than not taking it for the population as a whole.

Only anti-vaxxers claim that anyone (with any credibility) said that any vaccine was safe.