Then ten lost tribes of Hebrew are still exist and alive until today (not in Israel).

[R. Hartono]

James 1:1 James, a servant of God and of the Lord Jesus Christ, to the twelve tribes which are scattered among the nations, greetings.

Apostle James has written that the twelve tribes actually scattered outside Israel and even more after the destruction of Jerusalem at 70 AD and even worst after the greatest battle against the Roman by the 3rd war of Bar Kokhba  circa 135 AD. with the majority of the Jewish population of the province killed, enslaved, or exiled, and their national existence and identity became obscured as they were dispersed into unknown nations. Which is actually another more severe punishment from God Himself after their captivity into Babylon.

However, this is the undisputable evidence that the twelve tribes of Israel are still exist and preserved until today despite of the ten lost tribes taken captive to Assyria around 740 BC and scattered among nations, as God will send angels to seal them at the four corners of the earth (not in Israel) : 

Rev 1:7 After this I saw four angels standing at the four corners of the earth, holding back the four winds of the earth to prevent any wind from blowing on the land or on the sea or on any tree. ² Then I saw another angel coming up from the east, having the seal of the living God. He called out in a loud voice to the four angels who had been given power to harm the land and the sea: ³ “Do not harm the land or the sea or the trees until we put a seal on the foreheads of the servants of our God.” ⁴ Then I heard the number of those who were sealed: 144,000 from all the tribes of Israel.

⁵ From the tribe of Judah 12,000 were sealed, from the tribe of Reuben 12,000, from the tribe of Gad 12,000,

⁶ from the tribe of Asher 12,000, from the tribe of Naphtali 12,000, from the tribe of Manasseh 12,000,

⁷ from the tribe of Simeon 12,000, from the tribe of Levi 12,000, from the tribe of Issachar 12,000,

⁸ from the tribe of Zebulun 12,000, from the tribe of Joseph 12,000, from the tribe of Benjamin 12,000.

These twelve tribes of the Hebrew will be revealed as the servants of God in the Great Tribulation when the fullness of the gentiles is reached (their time is up) and God returns the mandate of salvation to the Hebrew and these twelve tribes shall be led by the 2 OT prophets (probably Moses and Elijah) like they did lead the ancient Hebrew from Egypt to Kanaan (battling hostile gentiles) to preach the Gospel of Jesus salvation to the world in the great tribulation as the Holy Spirit the restrainer and the Church's wise virgins (where He dwelt with) has been removed.

2 Thes 2:7 For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only He who now holdeth back will hold him back, until He is taken out of the way.

These 144000 Hebrew will not be hurt by the tormenting locusts with scorpion tails which torture all mankind without exception but did not kill them : ^{Rev 9:4} They were told not to harm the grass of the earth or any plant or tree, but only those people who did not have the seal of God on their foreheads.

And the two witnesses will stand against antichrist and false prophet like the old time Moses and Aaron stood against Pharaoh until they were killed by the beast from the bottomless pit and then the AOD takes place as these two no longer resist the antichrist NWO.

THE 144000 HEBREW WILL CONTINUE TO BE ON EARTH UNTIL JESUS RETURN TO ARMAGEDDON BATTLE WITH THE SAINTS AND THEN JESUS WILL LAND ON THE MT.ZION PROBABLY AT THE SAME SPOT FROM WHERE HE DEPARTED. THE 144000 WILL WELCOME THIS EVENT WITH A NEW SONG THAT REACHED HEAVEN BECAUSE CHRIST MILLENNIUM BEGINS !!!

Rev 14 1 Then I looked, and there before me was the Lamb, standing on Mount Zion, and with him 144,000 who had his name and his Father’s name written on their foreheads.

Zechariah 14:3 Then the LORD will go out to fight against those nations, as He fights in the day of battle. 4 On that day His feet will stand on the Mount of Olives, east of Jerusalem, and the Mount of Olives will be split in two from east to west, forming a great valley, with half the mountain moving to the north and half to the south. 5 You will flee by My mountain valley, for it will extend to Azal. You will flee as you fled from the earthquake in the days of Uzziah king of Judah. Then the LORD my God will come, and all the holy ones with Him.…

The 144000 Hebrew are not christians of spiritual Israel grafted to the Olive tree because christians as spiritual Israel DO NOT BELONG TO ANY TRIBE.

 

Edited January 9, 2021 by R. Hartono

[Who me]

9 hours ago, R. Hartono said:

This is the undisputable evidence that the twelve tribes of Israel are still exist and preserved until today despite of the ten lost tribes taken captive to Assyria around 740 BC and God will send angels to seal them at the four corners of the earth (not in Israel) : 

 

Are you talking about ten people groups who have somehow managed to isolate them selves from intermarrying and absorbing nonjewish customs.

Please remember these tribes were exiled because of there failure to follow God's laws and who by the time of the return of the copied Jews were nolonger Jewish as hey did not return to Israel.

You also have to address the issue of salvation. Are the Jews saved by virtue of there being Jewish or solely through faith in Jesus?

[The Light]

4 hours ago, Who me said:

 

Are you talking about ten people groups who have somehow managed to isolate them selves from intermarrying and absorbing nonjewish customs.

I think he is talking about 12 groups of people who are considered Jews (12 tribes, not just the tribe of Judah) if they are born of a Jewish woman. Jewish customs or non Jewish customs are of no importance.

4 hours ago, Who me said:

Please remember these tribes were exiled because of there failure to follow God's laws and who by the time of the return of the copied Jews were nolonger Jewish as hey did not return to Israel.

Interesting. Can you post the scripture that supports this line of thought. If this is true then Hitler killed a bunch of people for nothing????

4 hours ago, Who me said:

You also have to address the issue of salvation. Are the Jews saved by virtue of there being Jewish or solely through faith in Jesus?

Not sure what you see as an issue. The Word is clear on this.

Acts 4:12

Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.

Blindness will be removed from part of Israel when the fullness of the Gentiles comes in at the pretribulation rapture, which is pre 70th week of Daniel.

[R. Hartono]

7 hours ago, The Light said:

If this is true then Hitler killed a bunch of people for nothing????

Isnt it good that some of this Jews were hidden from Hitler ? Otherwise they wud all be captured.

Remember Herod killed all babies under two years old but Jesus escaped to Egypt.

Edited January 5, 2021 by R. Hartono

[Revelation Man]

On 1/4/2021 at 12:09 AM, R. Hartono said:

This is the undisputable evidence that the twelve tribes of Israel are still exist and preserved until today despite of the ten lost tribes taken captive to Assyria around 740 BC and God will send angels to seal them at the four corners of the earth (not in Israel) : 

Rev 1:7 After this I saw four angels standing at the four corners of the earth, holding back the four winds of the earth to prevent any wind from blowing on the land or on the sea or on any tree. ² Then I saw another angel coming up from the east, having the seal of the living God. He called out in a loud voice to the four angels who had been given power to harm the land and the sea: ³ “Do not harm the land or the sea or the trees until we put a seal on the foreheads of the servants of our God.” ⁴ Then I heard the number of those who were sealed: 144,000 from all the tribes of Israel.

⁵ From the tribe of Judah 12,000 were sealed, from the tribe of Reuben 12,000, from the tribe of Gad 12,000,

⁶ from the tribe of Asher 12,000, from the tribe of Naphtali 12,000, from the tribe of Manasseh 12,000,

⁷ from the tribe of Simeon 12,000, from the tribe of Levi 12,000, from the tribe of Issachar 12,000,

⁸ from the tribe of Zebulun 12,000, from the tribe of Joseph 12,000, from the tribe of Benjamin 12,000.

These twelve tribes of the Hebrew will be revealed as the servants of God in the Great Tribulation when the fullness of the gentiles is reached (their time is up) and God returns the mandate of salvation to the Hebrew and these twelve tribes shall be led by the 2 OT prophets (probably Moses and Elijah) like they did lead the ancient Hebrew from Egypt to Kanaan (battling hostile gentiles) to preach the Gospel of Jesus salvation to the world in the great tribulation as the Holy Spirit the restrainer and the Church's wise virgins (where He dwelt with) has been removed.

2 Thes 2:7 For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only He who now holdeth back will hold him back, until He is taken out of the way.

These 144000 Hebrew will not be hurt by the tormenting locusts with scorpion tails which torture all mankind without exception but did not kill them : ^{Rev 9:4} They were told not to harm the grass of the earth or any plant or tree, but only those people who did not have the seal of God on their foreheads.

And the two witnesses will stand against antichrist and false prophet like the old time Moses and Aaron stood against Pharaoh until they were killed by the beast from the bottomless pit and then the AOD takes place as these two no longer resist the antichrist NWO.

THE 144000 HEBREW WILL CONTINUE TO BE ON EARTH UNTIL JESUS RETURN TO ARMAGEDDON BATTLE WITH THE SAINTS AND THEN JESUS WILL LAND ON THE MT.ZION PROBABLY AT THE SAME SPOT FROM WHERE HE DEPARTED.

Rev 14 1 Then I looked, and there before me was the Lamb, standing on Mount Zion, and with him 144,000 who had his name and his Father’s name written on their foreheads.

Zechariah 14:3 Then the LORD will go out to fight against those nations, as He fights in the day of battle. 4 On that day His feet will stand on the Mount of Olives, east of Jerusalem, and the Mount of Olives will be split in two from east to west, forming a great valley, with half the mountain moving to the north and half to the south. 5 You will flee by My mountain valley, for it will extend to Azal. You will flee as you fled from the earthquake in the days of Uzziah king of Judah. Then the LORD my God will come, and all the holy ones with Him.…

The 144000 Hebrew are not christians of spiritual Israel grafted to the Olive tree because christians as spiritual Israel DO NOT BELONG TO ANY TRIBE.

 

No Tribes were ever lost. ONE SEED in the nation from ANY TRIBE meant that tribe was never lost, I think we all agree with that premise. So, Jerusalem was the "Great City" of Israel, many people from the 10 Northern tribes lived in Jerusalem because it was the Capital/Great City of Israel AND many of those tribes hated the EVIL that became the Northern Kingdoms, likewise people from Judah that loved wickedness moved to the Northern Kingdom. 

So, when God allowed the Northern Kingdoms to be toted off, He knew that they each had SEED living in Judah/Jerusalem !! So, this MYTH that the Northern tribes were lost is just not factual in nature. Those tribes were NEVER LOST, the TWO-STICKS Prophecy in Ezekiel comes to pass via the Northern Kingdoms having SEED living in Judah and thus living as ONE NATION (One Stick), go read the Prophecy. 

So, the Two-Sticks BECAME One Stick, meaning the 10 tribes became a part of Judah in essence. Then, the tribes kept their traditions, of course, but each tribe kind of got swallowed up in the Judean culture over time, of course, and by the time of the 70 AD Event, they were all deemed Judeans/Jews via the culture, and in 1948, when they all returned to Israel, they were all called Jews, but when they were DISPRESED the word over, ALL 12 Tribes were dispersed as Judeans or Jews.

So, my point is, there was NEVER any lost tribes. 

Edited January 5, 2021 by Revelation Man

[R. Hartono]

4 hours ago, Revelation Man said:

So, the Two-Sticks BECAME One Stick, meaning the 10 tribes became a part of Judah in essence. Then, the tribes kept their traditions, of course, but each kind of got swallowed up in the Judean culture over time, of course, and by the time of the 70 AD Event, they were all deemed Judeans,

 

They never became the part of Judah as apostle James wrote it :

James 1:1 1 James, a servant of God and of the Lord Jesus Christ, to the twelve tribes which are scattered among the nations, greetings.

Edited January 5, 2021 by R. Hartono

[Revelation Man]

15 hours ago, R. Hartono said:

They never became the part of Judah as apostle James wrote it :

James 1:1 1 James, a servant of God and of the Lord Jesus Christ, to the twelve tribes which are scattered among the nations, greetings.

The book of James was written AFTER the 70 AD sacking of Jerusalem and the Diaspora of the Jewish peoples. So, your comment made no sense. The facts are that there were NEVER any lost tribes anyway, not that some of the Northern Tribes weren't toted off in 500 or so B.C., but that there were SEED from EVERY TRIBE living in Judea at the time of the Diaspora. 

There are no lost tribes, and never was. If you have 100 players from the Marshall football team and half were on a plane that wrecked, was the Marshall football team completely lost ? Of course not, there are still people who survived the crash, and people who were on a different plane. Even if there was no 2nd plane, and all but two players died, there would still be TWO PLAYERS LIVING, and thus they would have children, and there children would have children etc. etc. People like you get lost in the small details, and you can't see the BIG PICTURE. Common sense tells you I am right, but you can't let go of the fact that for YEARS you actually thought the 10 tribes were LOST. 

I mean, a 5th grader can tell you that if these 10 tribes had PEOPLE LIVING in Jerusalem, then they always had KIDS who were of those 10 TRIBES Alive and living in Jerusalem at the time of the Diaspora. But you would  then have to admit, you BELIVED an erroneous understanding for years. You seemingly are grasping at straws.

Edited January 6, 2021 by Revelation Man

[Dennis1209]

6 hours ago, Revelation Man said:

The book of James was written AFTER the 70 AD sacking of Jerusalem and the Diaspora of the Jewish peoples. So, you comment make no sense.

Can you cite your sources? Every reference I've seen puts his death well before A.D. 70. Here's my brief note:

(9) JAMES – (Greek form of Jacob) a.k.a. JAMES the Less (in stature, or little), JAMES the Just, son of Alphaeus a.k.a. CLEOPAS. The “brother” (Gal 1: 18-19) or near kinsman or cousin of our Lord. Author of the Epistle which bears his name. Head of the church at Jerusalem. There’s some confusion with the three James in the N.T. Ministered in Syria. First century secular historian Flavis Josephus says (antiq 20.9.1) he was stoned and clubbed to death. Some say he was thrown over a hundred feet down from the SE pinnacle of the temple and survived, then was beaten to death with a fuller’s club. Tradition fixes his martyrdom at A.D. 62.

[R. Hartono]

7 hours ago, Revelation Man said:

The book of James was written AFTER the 70 AD sacking of Jerusalem and the Diaspora of the Jewish peoples. So, you comment make no sense. The facts are that there were NEVER any lost tribes anyway, not that some of the Northern Tribes weren't toted off in 500 or so BC, but that there were SEED from EVERY TRIBE living in Judea at the time of the Diaspora. 

There are no lost tribes, and never was. If you have 100 players from the Marshall football team and half were on a plane tat wrecked, was the Marshall football team completely lost ? Of course not, there are still people who survived the crash, and people who were on a different plane. Even if there was no 2nd plane, and all but two plyers dies, there would still be TWO PLAYERS LIVING, and thus they would have children, and there children would have children etc. etc. People like you get lost in the small details, and you can't see the BIG PICTURE. Common sense tells you I am right, but you can't let go of the fact that for YEARS you actually thought the 10 tribes were LOST. 

 

I mean, a 5th grader can tell you if these 10 tribes had PEOPLE LIVING in Jerusalem, then they always had KIDS who were of those 10 TRIBES Alive and living in Jerusalem at the time of the Diaspora. But you would have to admit, you BELIVED an erroneous understanding for years. You seemingly are grasping at straws.

All Gospel except Revelation was written be4 70 AD thats why there was no mentioning of temple destruction.

Peace.

Edited January 6, 2021 by R. Hartono

[R. Hartono]

7 hours ago, Revelation Man said:

The book of James was written AFTER the 70 AD sacking of Jerusalem and the Diaspora of the Jewish peoples. So, you comment make no sense. The facts are that there were NEVER any lost tribes anyway, not that some of the Northern Tribes weren't toted off in 500 or so BC, but that there were SEED from EVERY TRIBE living in Judea at the time of the Diaspora. 

There are no lost tribes, and never was. If you have 100 players from the Marshall football team and half were on a plane tat wrecked, was the Marshall football team completely lost ? Of course not, there are still people who survived the crash, and people who were on a different plane. Even if there was no 2nd plane, and all but two plyers dies, there would still be TWO PLAYERS LIVING, and thus they would have children, and there children would have children etc. etc. People like you get lost in the small details, and you can't see the BIG PICTURE. Common sense tells you I am right, but you can't let go of the fact that for YEARS you actually thought the 10 tribes were LOST. 

 

I mean, a 5th grader can tell you if these 10 tribes had PEOPLE LIVING in Jerusalem, then they always had KIDS who were of those 10 TRIBES Alive and living in Jerusalem at the time of the Diaspora. But you would have to admit, you BELIVED an erroneous understanding for years. You seemingly are grasping at straws.

They never became the part of Judah as you claimed so (your own theory). James wrote it they were scattered in nations, i believe in James.