FrankIeCip Posted May 4, 2021 Group: Senior Member Followers: 4 Topic Count: 15 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 757 Content Per Day: 0.57 Reputation: 1,119 Days Won: 2 Joined: 09/25/2020 Status: Offline Birthday: 12/08/1978 Share Posted May 4, 2021 Salvation is God’s work. Not ours. You can’t save yourself or do anything to keep it that way. You are stripping God of His glory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie744 Posted May 4, 2021 Group: Royal Member Followers: 10 Topic Count: 55 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 2,690 Content Per Day: 1.72 Reputation: 862 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/29/2020 Status: Offline Share Posted May 4, 2021 4 minutes ago, FrankIeCip said: We are His possession. Bought and paid for. We are now part of His own body. Will he cut off His toe and throw it away? We are not our own. Nothing can separate us from His love. Nothing can separate us from Him. We are His. I don't know if you are saying this so I will have to ask -If you are saved then you will always be saved? I believe this has generated the acronym OSAS (once saved always saved)? Thanks, Charlie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrankIeCip Posted May 4, 2021 Group: Senior Member Followers: 4 Topic Count: 15 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 757 Content Per Day: 0.57 Reputation: 1,119 Days Won: 2 Joined: 09/25/2020 Status: Offline Birthday: 12/08/1978 Share Posted May 4, 2021 Yes. Truly saved, born again by God's will, not our own are secured in Him forever. Long time no chat Charlie. Hope everything is good with you. ?? Thanks, Frank 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrankIeCip Posted May 4, 2021 Group: Senior Member Followers: 4 Topic Count: 15 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 757 Content Per Day: 0.57 Reputation: 1,119 Days Won: 2 Joined: 09/25/2020 Status: Offline Birthday: 12/08/1978 Share Posted May 4, 2021 Romans 8 37Yet in all these things we are more than conquerors through Him who loved us. 38For I am persuaded that neither death nor life, nor angels nor principalities nor powers, nor things present nor things to come, 39nor height nor depth, nor any other created thing, shall be able to separate us from the love of God which is in Christ Jesus our Lord. I’m pretty sure we count as something created. ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie744 Posted May 4, 2021 Group: Royal Member Followers: 10 Topic Count: 55 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 2,690 Content Per Day: 1.72 Reputation: 862 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/29/2020 Status: Offline Share Posted May 4, 2021 Just now, FrankIeCip said: Yes. Truly saved, born again by God's will, not our own are secured in Him forever. Long time no chat Charlie. Hope everything is good with you. ?? Thanks, Frank Great to see you are doing well and continue to contribute your thoughts! Okay, if we are once saved, always saved, then we can not ever lose our salvation .... but there are folks who were believers and saved and maybe down the line they may have experienced a real catastrophe - day a drunk driver killed his family while they were coming home from a soccer game.... and he just could not deal with it and blamed God for this - saying and believing, "how could you let this happen... I have been worshipping you my entire life and this is my reward"? I don't believe one could or would say that "he was never really saved".... I believe this literally happened to Job and he would never abandon God or lose his faith and trust in God no matter what happened, but we are not Job.... Theoretically, I certainly believe we can lose our faith and those that are not believers can gain faith in Jesus.... but when life happens to us in ways that almost destroy us, the theoretical goes away and anything can occur... Look forward to your thoughts.... difficult issue, Charlie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrankIeCip Posted May 4, 2021 Group: Senior Member Followers: 4 Topic Count: 15 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 757 Content Per Day: 0.57 Reputation: 1,119 Days Won: 2 Joined: 09/25/2020 Status: Offline Birthday: 12/08/1978 Share Posted May 4, 2021 Yes we can absolutely say they were never saved. Remember we don’t know who is truly saved. We may have an idea but it’s God’s business. We are not Job but we are like him. Whatever comes our way we can handle because He will not give us more than we can handle. God forbid I lose my daughter. That’s not gonna change me. I will be devastated but I cant blame God. She’s my daughter but she belongs to Him. Everything is His. And we do not mourn as others, having no hope. God is sovereign and in control. His will be done. ?? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enoob57 Posted May 4, 2021 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 35 Topic Count: 100 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 41,398 Content Per Day: 8.00 Reputation: 21,570 Days Won: 76 Joined: 03/13/2010 Status: Offline Birthday: 07/27/1957 Share Posted May 4, 2021 1 John 2:19 19 They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would no doubt have continued with us: but they went out, that they might be made manifest that they were not all of us. KJV 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest clancy Posted May 4, 2021 Share Posted May 4, 2021 1 hour ago, FrankIeCip said: Whoever can walk away, lose faith, or whatever were NEVER HIS in the first place. I’m not gonna go back and forth with this. I just encourage you to read your Bible carefully and prayerfully. Remember there are wheat(born again/regenerate) and tares (professing Christians). They say they are in Him but He was never in them. If any man have not the Spirit of Christ he is none of His. You guys are basing your salvation on works whether you realize it or not. Excellent post Bro....Amen!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest clancy Posted May 4, 2021 Share Posted May 4, 2021 50 minutes ago, FrankIeCip said: Salvation is God’s work. Not ours. You can’t save yourself or do anything to keep it that way. You are stripping God of His glory. Amen!!.....whoever the Father gives to Jesus, He will never lose one,” not one”......we are His... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest clancy Posted May 4, 2021 Share Posted May 4, 2021 22 minutes ago, FrankIeCip said: Yes we can absolutely say they were never saved. Remember we don’t know who is truly saved. We may have an idea but it’s God’s business. We are not Job but we are like him. Whatever comes our way we can handle because He will not give us more than we can handle. God forbid I lose my daughter. That’s not gonna change me. I will be devastated but I cant blame God. She’s my daughter but she belongs to Him. Everything is His. And we do not mourn as others, having no hope. God is sovereign and in control. His will be done. ?? My thoughts and belief exactly...Praise God.Frankie!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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