Tithing

[Riverwalker]

6 minutes ago, Josheb said:

False dichotomy. 

Just because men made a distinction between what is reported prior to the gospels and what is reported in and following the gospels does not mean the distinction is incorrect. 

 

Do you know what the word, "testament" means (without first looking it up)? 

Aye

The Levitic  priesthood was the recipients of the tithes, because they did not own land, and they did not farm, field or craft. so it was assigned to the other 11 tribes to give 19% to them. If we had any Levitic priests around anymore, their might be a need to tithe

 

Nehemiah 10:37

And that we should bring the firstfruits of our dough, and our offerings, and the fruit of all manner of trees, of wine and of oil, unto the priests, to the chambers of the house of our God; and the tithes of our ground unto the Levites, that the same Levites might have the tithes in all the cities of our tillage.

(and dough here does not mean money   )

 

Also the broader point here is that tithing IS NOT GIVING TO GOD.  God walks on streets of Gold, I don't think he needs your money

The tithe was to support the priests

Edited February 2, 2021 by Riverwalker

[Riverwalker]

15 minutes ago, Josheb said:

It might interest everyone to know (you who are in the clergy probably already know this) the stats show the average pans out to only 3% of the Church give 3% of their income. Imagine what might happen if the Church had one more percent with which to work. We could and would change the world were we to actually practice the NT standard of giving cheerfully and generously based on real need and God's leading. 

Oh I agree, but it has to be the free and considered choice of the church to tithe.  Do we blame the church, the people or the times. I wonder what the tithing in the 50's and 60's was like.  I know my dad tithed every paycheck.  But we are surrounded by so much distraction in a feeding frenzy of a consumer market where no one is sated, that both spouses have to work just to support that habit.

We have lost our way

 

And still and yet I think the chief purpose of giving money is to honor the will of God with our first fruits (not our shabby seconds). And (says in a hushed voice) it doesn't always have to be money, it can be time, goods, whatever. Money....is secondary

Edited February 2, 2021 by Riverwalker

[johnthebaptist]

11 hours ago, Kristina said:

Do you believe you van still actively tithe in the community if you are not a church member..

I don't know why you couldn't.

It makes me wonder about something: We can give money to a church or charitable cause, but we can also donate our time. What is the interrelationship between the two?

[Don19]

4 hours ago, Peterlag said:

The gospels are not the New Testament. God did not put that blank paper between the Old Testament and the Gospels that says New Testament. Men did that.

The New Testament age began at Pentecost, indeed. However, everything in the Bible is relevant to the New Testament. Everything in the Bible is profitable. For anyone who has the knowledge of God, as well as maturity, it is great to read the Old Testament spiritually, because there is a lot of good stuff that God has put there for His elect to feast upon! It's stuff that the world doesn't know, because it can't see.

[Riverwalker]

My first lesson (and why I stopped attending that church) was when the Pastors was driving  Jaguars while the single moms were nursing beat up Yugos back and forth to church and work. Tithing faithfully because the preacher told them would get it back multiplied.  But it only seemed to multiply for the Pastors

 

I wonder how many less would be tithing without that malarkey

Edited February 2, 2021 by Riverwalker

[Peterlag]

15 minutes ago, Don19 said:

The New Testament age began at Pentecost, indeed. However, everything in the Bible is relevant to the New Testament. Everything in the Bible is profitable. For anyone who has the knowledge of God, as well as maturity, it is great to read the Old Testament spiritually, because there is a lot of good stuff that God has put there for His elect to feast upon! It's stuff that the world doesn't know, because it can't see.

One of the things the Old Testament should teach us is that we don't need to be Tithing.

[Don19]

1 minute ago, Peterlag said:

One of the things the Old Testament should teach us is that we don't need to be Tithing.

That's only true, if we are speaking after the manner of men. But like I said earlier, Jesus Christ is the tithe for all who believe in Him. Otherwise, to read Scriptures about tithing would profit us nothing, but all Scripture is given by the inspiration of God and is profitable.

[R. Hartono]

5 hours ago, Peterlag said:

The gospels are not the New Testament. God did not put that blank paper between the Old Testament and the Gospels that says New Testament. Men did that.

God has torn apart the curtain at the most Holy room, He has replaced animal ritual sacrifice from tithe offerings with Jesus.

[Peterlag]

4 hours ago, Don19 said:

That's only true, if we are speaking after the manner of men. But like I said earlier, Jesus Christ is the tithe for all who believe in Him. Otherwise, to read Scriptures about tithing would profit us nothing, but all Scripture is given by the inspiration of God and is profitable.

I'm not following your way of thinking. What do you mean when you say Jesus is the tithe?

[R. Hartono]

3 hours ago, Peterlag said:

I'm not following your way of thinking. What do you mean when you say Jesus is the tithe?

Jesus has replaced animal sacrificial offerings (tithe).