Regenerated-Adult Posted February 24, 2021 Group: Removed from Forums for Breaking Terms of Service Followers: 1 Topic Count: 9 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 196 Content Per Day: 0.16 Reputation: 53 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/26/2021 Status: Offline Share Posted February 24, 2021 about theology, morality, philosophy, science, history, and so on. If they were actually saints, they probably wouldn't engage in such crass and gross behaviour with other people who claim to be "born again". Yet it continues to happen, and there is seemingly no end in sight. It's not any part of my conception of what a Christian is supposed to be, or be like. When Christians gather together, and someone says, "You just committed the ad hom fallacy", you know you are dealing with nothing but a troll and not a saint, by any means. It's amazing to me to see a group of people united in something disunited in the small print of it. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Riverwalker Posted February 24, 2021 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 92 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 2,054 Content Per Day: 0.59 Reputation: 1,753 Days Won: 4 Joined: 12/09/2014 Status: Offline Popular Post Share Posted February 24, 2021 1 minute ago, Regenerated-Adult said: about theology, morality, philosophy, science, history, and so on. If they were actually saints, they probably wouldn't engage in such crass and gross behaviour with other people who claim to be "born again". Yet it continues to happen, and there is seemingly no end in sight. It's not any part of my conception of what a Christian is supposed to be, or be like. When Christians gather together, and someone says, "You just committed the ad hom fallacy", you know you are dealing with nothing but a troll and not a saint, by any means. It's amazing to me to see a group of people united in something disunited in the small print of it. Well there is a difference between argument and discussion. What defines whether we are discussing or arguing is not so much emotions, but whether we are listening. If we have our preconceived notions and are not willing to hear what someone else has to say then we are arguing None of us have a complete picture of God and we need to share and listen to others ideas and revelation to fill in the blanks in our understanding. We have a volcano here in California called Mt Shasta and it sticks up 14,000 right in the middle of a valley. You can see it from all sides a from miles away. But each side of that mountain has a different look, and if we only saw our view of it, we would have a very incomplete perception of that mountain. We have to be willing to see it from other peoples perspective to get the complete picture. 7 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marathoner Posted February 24, 2021 Group: Royal Member Followers: 17 Topic Count: 74 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 10,550 Content Per Day: 7.15 Reputation: 13,703 Days Won: 100 Joined: 05/24/2020 Status: Offline Share Posted February 24, 2021 51 minutes ago, Regenerated-Adult said: about theology, morality, philosophy, science, history, and so on. If they were actually saints, they probably wouldn't engage in such crass and gross behaviour with other people who claim to be "born again". Yet it continues to happen, and there is seemingly no end in sight. It's not any part of my conception of what a Christian is supposed to be, or be like. When Christians gather together, and someone says, "You just committed the ad hom fallacy", you know you are dealing with nothing but a troll and not a saint, by any means. It's amazing to me to see a group of people united in something disunited in the small print of it. I understand what you are saying and agree with some of the sentiments you've expressed, but let's remember that Jesus Christ has called forth a many-membered Body from this world. This is a truth which @Riverwalker touches upon in his response to you, how none of us possesses the "entire picture" and in fact, have need of one another to complete the knowledge which His Spirit imparts to us all. Yes, this is key: the Lord is pleased to impart knowledge to us all. Considering how we're all men and women who see darkly and know only in part, the beauty of God's wisdom is manifest in how each of us bears something good and worthwhile to contribute to the Body of Christ. Some are learned in letters while others bear the faith of a child; some of us have have suffered trial and tribulation in no small measure in this world. Others have endured in the faith for many years... the point being that the same Spirit ministers to us and so we share much in common, but the Lord imparts different gifts and talents to each. Never forget that while we are in this world we are learning, growing, and being conformed to the image of the Son of God by His Spirit. "Work in progress" applies to us, @Regenerated-Adult. The Lord revealed much about His mercy and forgiveness to me, and so I'm quick to encourage my brothers and sisters to bear with each other, pouring out the same love for each other that Christ bears for us all. There's also the matter of this medium. Written communication alone can be perilous at times, another reason why I urge patience and mercy. Let us forgive one another because love covers all things. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneLight Posted February 24, 2021 Group: Royal Member Followers: 22 Topic Count: 1,294 Topics Per Day: 0.21 Content Count: 31,762 Content Per Day: 5.20 Reputation: 9,763 Days Won: 115 Joined: 09/14/2007 Status: Offline Share Posted February 24, 2021 (edited) While I agree with all that is being said, what I noticed missing is the ability to properly communicate an idea or thought. I do not speak well in a public setting, but when given the time to write out my thoughts, they become much clearer and to the point without being offensive, unless they are meant to be offensive. There is also the Teacher/Student attitude some hold dear to where they are the teacher, so what they say is correct, and you, being the student, must accept what is being taught. There is also pride and arrogance we all have to deal with. I've found that when I take the time to write out what I want to say, reread it as if I was reading it for the first time (no preconceived idea as to what the author means), I can easily examine how I come across and make necessary corrections. In other words, am I replying in the flesh or in the spirit? Edited February 24, 2021 by OneLight spelling 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marathoner Posted February 24, 2021 Group: Royal Member Followers: 17 Topic Count: 74 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 10,550 Content Per Day: 7.15 Reputation: 13,703 Days Won: 100 Joined: 05/24/2020 Status: Offline Share Posted February 24, 2021 2 minutes ago, OneLight said: While I agree with all that is being said, what I noticed missing is the ability to properly communicate an idea or thought. It was your place to add this, brother. I confess that whenever I witness the many-membered Body of Christ at work I can barely contain my excitement and joy. This is how it should be. What can I say? The simple fact that God chose to bless me in such a way, that I might witness His marvelous works while I sojourn in this world, is a blessing beyond compare. It is my reward and altogether a humbling experience. I appreciate your contributions in the forum, @OneLight. I'm glad you're here. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post BeyondET Posted February 24, 2021 Group: Royal Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 118 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 2,981 Content Per Day: 1.25 Reputation: 825 Days Won: 0 Joined: 11/29/2017 Status: Offline Birthday: 04/01/1968 Popular Post Share Posted February 24, 2021 1 hour ago, Regenerated-Adult said: about theology, morality, philosophy, science, history, and so on. If they were actually saints, they probably wouldn't engage in such crass and gross behaviour with other people who claim to be "born again". Yet it continues to happen, and there is seemingly no end in sight. It's not any part of my conception of what a Christian is supposed to be, or be like. When Christians gather together, and someone says, "You just committed the ad hom fallacy", you know you are dealing with nothing but a troll and not a saint, by any means. It's amazing to me to see a group of people united in something disunited in the small print of it. Nothing wrong with debating, disagreeing, but when words or actions turn to belittling, insulting then respect has gone out the window. one of the worst thing someone can do is try and use scripture to beat someone over the head with it, I’ve seen that a few times just recently at that. People can be very sneaky and vicious, no matter where you go rather a Christian web site or a public church you will find wolves in sheep clothing. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WilliamL Posted February 24, 2021 Group: Royal Member Followers: 10 Topic Count: 101 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 5,215 Content Per Day: 1.49 Reputation: 2,583 Days Won: 4 Joined: 11/06/2014 Status: Offline Birthday: 09/01/1950 Share Posted February 24, 2021 "Christians arguing with other Christians" 1 Cor. 11:18 For first of all, when you come together as a church, I hear that there are divisions among you, and in part I believe it. 19 For there must also be factions among you, that those who are approved may be recognized among you. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnthebaptist Posted February 24, 2021 Group: Non-Conformist Theology Followers: 6 Topic Count: 118 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 4,361 Content Per Day: 2.26 Reputation: 2,109 Days Won: 0 Joined: 02/25/2019 Status: Offline Birthday: 02/03/1953 Share Posted February 24, 2021 2 hours ago, Regenerated-Adult said: about theology, morality, philosophy, science, history, and so on. If they were actually saints, they probably wouldn't engage in such crass and gross behaviour with other people who claim to be "born again". Yet it continues to happen, and there is seemingly no end in sight. It's not any part of my conception of what a Christian is supposed to be, or be like. When Christians gather together, and someone says, "You just committed the ad hom fallacy", you know you are dealing with nothing but a troll and not a saint, by any means. It's amazing to me to see a group of people united in something disunited in the small print of it. Sometimes we believe different things and like to discuss these things. We can learn from each other. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post leah777 Posted February 24, 2021 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 19 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 1,393 Content Per Day: 0.70 Reputation: 1,156 Days Won: 1 Joined: 01/09/2019 Status: Offline Popular Post Share Posted February 24, 2021 4 hours ago, Regenerated-Adult said: about theology, morality, philosophy, science, history, and so on. If they were actually saints, they probably wouldn't engage in such crass and gross behaviour with other people who claim to be "born again". Yet it continues to happen, and there is seemingly no end in sight. One major way to avoid cults and wrong teaching is to explore and sometimes challenge other Christians. It is protection from wrong teaching. Wrong teaching must be opposed, not hidden under the banner of Unity, which word is often used to suppress questioning false teachers. We have much to learn from each other, and learning to see the tares by bringing them to the light through discussion is good. 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teddyv Posted February 24, 2021 Group: Royal Member Followers: 6 Topic Count: 6 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 4,265 Content Per Day: 2.85 Reputation: 2,302 Days Won: 1 Joined: 05/03/2020 Status: Offline Share Posted February 24, 2021 5 hours ago, Regenerated-Adult said: about theology, morality, philosophy, science, history, and so on. If they were actually saints, they probably wouldn't engage in such crass and gross behaviour with other people who claim to be "born again". Yet it continues to happen, and there is seemingly no end in sight. It's not any part of my conception of what a Christian is supposed to be, or be like. When Christians gather together, and someone says, "You just committed the ad hom fallacy", you know you are dealing with nothing but a troll and not a saint, by any means. It's amazing to me to see a group of people united in something disunited in the small print of it. How dare you post this, you unscrupulous troll! (Just kidding) 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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