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1 hour ago, electlady said:

The Elect.  Those who allow the Holy Spirit to witness through them:

Mark 13:11

11 But when they arrest you and deliver you up, do not worry beforehand, or premeditate what you will speak. But whatever is given you in that hour, speak that; for it is not you who speak, but the Holy Spirit.

Revelation 2:10

10 Fear none of those things which thou shalt suffer: behold, the devil shall cast some of you into prison, that ye may be tried; and ye shall have tribulation ten days: be thou faithful unto death, and I will give thee a crown of life.

The fall of the second beast will not be in a political sense, but in a religious sense.  So how do you wound a lie, and a false system? By correcting it with the Truth.  This is the destiny of the Elect.  There will be a great revival of people returning to the Lord at this time.  When the Elect and the two witnesses do their job, the antichrist will completely lose it and he’ll know he only has a short time. 

But who does God allow to heal this beast (one-world system) again?  Satan.  God now carries out the rest of His end-time plan.  When the antichrist (Satan) heals this one-world system, the world will worship him and either knowingly or in ignorance, they will be receiving the mark of the beast.
—electlady 

Oh. You're not thinking it's real time physical fulfillment of prophecy?


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1 hour ago, electlady said:

Just like David knew what was needed for his battle, so also God's Elect also know what is necessary for the spiritual battle that we will face in these end times.

—electlady 

But the elect wound a head of the beast?


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9 minutes ago, electlady said:

I’m not sure what real time fulfillment is.  I think we’re seeing some of it coming to pass, as in one-worldism and increasing evil, but I still see things like Mark 13:11 and the two witnesses and certainly other things in the Olivet discourse as in the future.  We’re to be staying alert and watching the signs in these latter days.  

—electlady 

Do you feel end of the age prophecy is going to be fulfilled in the physical realm affecting earth and sky and ocean and people, or do you feel it's spiritual fulfillment only, or maybe a combination?


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6 minutes ago, electlady said:

I’m a little fuzzy regarding the heads of this One-World order and which head gets the wound.  Please help me out if you can, Diaste (or anybody else).  I think, though, that as watchmen, we’re supposed to be watching Jerusalem.  Thoughts?

— electlady 

I think what we are told will happen by any number of modern prophets, pastors, etc. is a lot of distracting information. Based on that I'm not looking for the NWO or a OWO or the like. I think we'll all be quite surprised. We are never going to know for sure until it happens. 

But yes. Jerusalem. Always.


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18 hours ago, R. Hartono said:

Jesus has yet to take over world government at the Armageddon.

Everything is under His feet right now. He is King and Priest of the cosmos.

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16 minutes ago, electlady said:

I’m a little fuzzy regarding the heads of this One-World order and which head gets the wound.  Please help me out if you can, Diaste (or anybody else).  I think, though, that as watchmen, we’re supposed to be watching Jerusalem.  Thoughts?

— electlady 

Speaking of the beast that came out of the sea (nations), should we look to Israel (according to the flesh)?


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Posted
7 minutes ago, Justin Adams said:

Everything is under His feet right now. He is King and Priest of the cosmos.

Yup--we are ruling and reigning with Him now and also will in the future. What we have now will be more fully manifested later.

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Posted (edited)
11 minutes ago, electlady said:

I think yes.  ...but also current events of the whole world.  I need to do better.  These days, I don’t think I’m being a very good watchlady.:)

I would "bet" on one of the 10 presidents of the most powerful countries in the world. Distinguished by these features:


Rev 13: 1 ... and upon his heads the name of blasphemy.

G988
blasphēmia
From G989; vilification (especially against God): - blasphemy, evil speaking, railing.

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17 minutes ago, electlady said:

I think yes.  ...but also current events of the whole world.  I need to do better.  These days, I don’t think I’m being a very good watchlady.:)

Think about this. The church is fragmented and split into several camps. Pre-mil is one and Dispensational offshoots is another set. Then see how many on this site are still arguing about Revelation and vials, and bowls, and futurist stuff that already came to pass. Our attention has been cleverly subverted and we do not do the Job of Kings and Priests because we are looking over our shoulders for the fake-rapture and tribulation. The tribulation happened in 70AD, yet the money making profiteers keep setting dates that never actually happen - and sell more books.

Futurism holds just one thing: The second coming and the separation between the sheep and the goats along with a huge Cosmic fight called Har-mo-ade in Hebrew - that is, the battle for Mount Zion.
(Har means mountain and is NOT the plain of Megiddo)

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19 minutes ago, PeterR said:
26 minutes ago, electlady said:

I think yes.  ...but also current events of the whole world.  I need to do better.  These days, I don’t think I’m being a very good watchlady.:)

I would "bet" on one of the 10 presidents of the most powerful countries in the world. Distinguished by these features:


Rev 13: 1 ... and upon his heads the name of blasphemy.

G988
blasphēmia
From G989; vilification (especially against God): - blasphemy, evil speaking, railing.

or one of the richest / influential (i.e. who determines what to believe and what not to believe; what is true and what is not true - great power from Satan)

It is the millennium period that will give the Antichrist that deadly wound.

How long is an hour?

 

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