Can You REJECT The Holy Spirit After Receiving Him At Salvation?

[Scott Free]

"We assume that the dwelling of the Holy Spirit in a believer is permanent. And we'll look at passages in the New Testament where the Holy Spirit's presence in the believer is referred to as a down payment, or the arrabōn, which could be like an engagement ring. And we often don't realize that deposits do get withdrawn, engagements are broken, God did divorce Israel, the Holy Spirit did leave Zion. The Spirit of God is certainly with us and he doesn't plan on going anywhere, unless you tell him to get lost. Link to sermon" - Dr. Michael S. Heiser

Edited May 27, 2021 by Scott Free

[Michael37]

Satan works hard at getting Christians to apostasise, so that they become like those who were directly instrumental in crucifying Christ. 

Unless the soil of the heart is cultivated by the conscience and kept fertile by faith in Christ, it becomes compacted, stoney, and good for nothing but thorns and weeds.

Heb 6:4-8  For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted of the heavenly gift, and were made partakers of the Holy Ghost,  (5)  And have tasted the good word of God, and the powers of the world to come,  (6)  If they shall fall away, to renew them again unto repentance; seeing they crucify to themselves the Son of God afresh, and put him to an open shame.  (7)  For the earth which drinks in the rain that comes oft upon it, and brings forth herbs meet for them by whom it is dressed, receives blessing from God:  (8)  But that which bears thorns and briers is rejected, and is nigh unto cursing; whose end is to be burned.
 

 Jas 1:12-15  Blessed is the man that endures temptation: for when he is tried, he shall receive the crown of life, which the Lord has promised to them that love him.  (13)  Let no man say when he is tempted, I am tempted of God: for God cannot be tempted with evil, neither tempts he any man:  (14)  But every man is tempted, when he is drawn away of his own lust, and enticed.  (15)  Then when lust has conceived, it brings forth sin: and sin, when it is finished, brings forth death.

[enoob57]

It is by works or it is not... it is that simple
Titus 3:5-8

5 Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost;

6 Which he shed on us abundantly through Jesus Christ our Saviour;

7 That being justified by his grace, we should be made heirs according to the hope of eternal life.

8 This is a faithful saying, and these things I will that thou affirm constantly, that they which have believed in God might be careful to maintain good works. These things are good and profitable unto men.
KJV
When a person comes to the place where repentance is the motive to cry out to The Lord to save them a new life is formed and that life is kept by God... Also within that life a person is belonging to God to serve Him as nothing else will do... it is out of love that God places in the heart we walk...

[enoob57]

On 5/24/2021 at 10:24 PM, Scott Free said:

"We assume that the dwelling of the Holy Spirit in a believer is permanent. And we'll look at passages in the New Testament where the Holy Spirit's presence in the believer is referred to as a down payment, or the arrabōn, which could be like an engagement ring. And we often don't realize that deposits do get withdrawn, engagements are broken, God did divorce Israel, the Holy Spirit did leave Zion. The Spirit of God is certainly with us and he doesn't plan on going anywhere, unless you tell him to get lost. Check it out!" - Dr. Michael S. Heiser

Heiser would correct his view on this by just accepting John's posit of truth
 

1 John 2:19

19 They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would no doubt have continued with us: but they went out, that they might be made manifest that they were not all of us.
KJV
if one chooses to leave that means they were not of the regeneration... God cannot depart from Himself and it is God within us the hope of glory....

[missmuffet]

Once a person has genuinely received the Holy Spirit it is there permanently.

Hebrews 13:5

Let your conduct be without covetousness; be content with such things as you have. For He Himself has said, “I will never leave you nor forsake you.”

[Scott Free]

3 hours ago, enoob57 said:

Heiser would correct his view on this by just accepting John's posit of truth

This work focuses on God's point of view and by extension reality. The topic of the scripture you stated is about the difficulty of humans perceiving others accurately. What was manifested in those who went from them in 1 John 2:19? I am assuming they fell to idol worship and not a projection of whatever I would degree with.

[OneLight]

Another OSAS thread ... great, as if there were not enough division on this site.

[Your closest friendnt]

On 5/24/2021 at 11:24 PM, Scott Free said:

"We assume that the dwelling of the Holy Spirit in a believer is permanent. And we'll look at passages in the New Testament where the Holy Spirit's presence in the believer is referred to as a down payment, or the arrabōn, which could be like an engagement ring. And we often don't realize that deposits do get withdrawn, engagements are broken, God did divorce Israel, the Holy Spirit did leave Zion. The Spirit of God is certainly with us and he doesn't plan on going anywhere, unless you tell him to get lost. Check it out!" - Dr. Michael S. Heiser

Can you please explain a little more what you want to emphasize. Thank you. 

[Your closest friendnt]

9 hours ago, enoob57 said:

Heiser would correct his view on this by just accepting John's posit of truth
 

1 John 2:19

19 They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would no doubt have continued with us: but they went out, that they might be made manifest that they were not all of us.
KJV
if one chooses to leave that means they were not of the regeneration... God cannot depart from Himself and it is God within us the hope of glory....

What are you trying to say is not very clear. 

Your post is good, but the scriptures are confusing. 

[Scott Free]

15 minutes ago, Your closest friendnt said:

Can you please explain a little more what you want to emphasize. Thank you. 

I apologize, this is meant to be an introduction to the video. A video I did not adequately point out in the link.