Caitlin _ Posted June 7, 2021 Group: Members Followers: 1 Topic Count: 14 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 39 Content Per Day: 0.03 Reputation: 36 Days Won: 0 Joined: 07/12/2020 Status: Offline Share Posted June 7, 2021 (edited) Hi, I feel sad and hopeless. I saw the gospel message like last may and believed it and repented but then I ended up having a thoughts problem after fear of the unpardonable sin and attacked with unwanted blasphemous thoughts made my head obsessive and I have a fear of thinking sinful thoughts. I’m 17. My relationship with God isn’t good and I’m struggling to follow Jesus. My head has a thought problem for like 5 months I think where I get tempted to think thoughts about people out of obsession and fear of breaking the commands. I read cursing verses in the Bible and then my head obsessed over them and get tempted to think the word curse all the time and about others and other bad thoughts and I don’t mean them. I find it hard to be around people now. I ‘complained’ in my head a lot about how sad I am and how I feel and stuff. I’m scared because I think my heart maybe got filled with other things like worldly things maybe and my love for God. I’m scared incase what if I don’t love Jesus or enough. I try to keep the commands but my head gets tempted to think thoughts about people — my head was never like this before until my head started obsessing over sinful thoghts. And He said to keep the commands. And I think to myself a lot. I’m scared because of my heart state: i think sinful thoughts made it less pure, soft, humble, loving etc.. And I’m scared about my heart state towards God and Jesus. My head has bad thoughts a lot I’m scared of hell and the end times and my family need saved. I think the fear of death has caused me to love myself more and my life and everything like the flowers and colours and being able to walk etc... and I think it caused pride I don’t think I’m on the narrow way and I struggle with thoughts everyday and don’t feel desire for Jesus and like affection for Him. I don’t feel connection with Him and struggle to follow Him and have my heart set on Him. Idk how to change it. And my head mostly thinks about God the Father aswell and hard to focus on Jesus idkk why I’m scared because of the depart from me verse and the bad fruit broken branch verse and I’m scared of God leaving I’m scared because of time and I feel far from God and I want to love Jesus and God more than myself and life. thanks for reading Edited June 7, 2021 by Caitlin _ 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whyme Posted June 7, 2021 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 82 Topics Per Day: 0.07 Content Count: 2,300 Content Per Day: 1.95 Reputation: 1,125 Days Won: 10 Joined: 02/16/2021 Status: Offline Share Posted June 7, 2021 (edited) A relationship with the Lord can take years to grow. There is no reason to think bad thoughts. We can concentrate on putting them out of mind and thinking good thoughts instead. When i have an impure thought i tell myself to think about pure things. The apostle Paul says that we should rejoice in the Lord always and think good thoughts and as a result the God of peace will be with us. Dont be so hard on yourself, Gods grace sustains us. Never give up hope in the Lord, no matter how bad it may seem at the time. A person with your honesty and humility and contrition is in a good place. Some people dont see their faults but you do because your eyes are open. I hope my words are helpful. Edited June 7, 2021 by Whyme 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whyme Posted June 7, 2021 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 82 Topics Per Day: 0.07 Content Count: 2,300 Content Per Day: 1.95 Reputation: 1,125 Days Won: 10 Joined: 02/16/2021 Status: Offline Share Posted June 7, 2021 Also, the scriptures teach us to cast our cares on the Lord. Pour your heart out to Him and walk by faith not sight. Dont look at how bad it is, look only to Jesus who alone can save you and will. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caitlin _ Posted June 7, 2021 Group: Members Followers: 1 Topic Count: 14 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 39 Content Per Day: 0.03 Reputation: 36 Days Won: 0 Joined: 07/12/2020 Status: Offline Author Share Posted June 7, 2021 Just now, Whyme said: A relationship with the Lord can take years to grow. There is no reason to think bad thoughts. We can concentrate on putting them out of mind and thinking good thoughts instead. When i have an impure thought i tell myself to think about pure things. The apostle Paul says that we should rejoice in the Lord always and think good thoughts and as a result the God of peace will be with us. Dont be so hard on yourself, Gods grace sustains us. Never give up hope in the Lord, no matter how bad it may seem at the time. A person with your honesty and humility and contrition is in a good place. Some people dont see their faults but you do because your eyes are open. I hope my words are helpful. Thank you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LearningToLetGo Posted June 7, 2021 Group: Senior Member Followers: 5 Topic Count: 37 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 717 Content Per Day: 0.35 Reputation: 660 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/21/2018 Status: Offline Share Posted June 7, 2021 This life is difficult at times, especially for the young who lack experience in many ways. Even Jesus himself asked God for mercy ("remove this cup" was how he asked to not be sacrificed). But Jesus knew the sacrifice was necessary so he complied without complaint. Take heart from this. God is in control. Trust him, even when -- especially when! -- you are afraid. Luke 22:41-42 ESV 41 And he withdrew from them about a stone's throw, and knelt down and prayed, 42 saying, “Father, if you are willing, remove this cup from me. Nevertheless, not my will, but yours, be done.” 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R. Hartono Posted June 8, 2021 Group: Royal Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 774 Topics Per Day: 0.34 Content Count: 6,949 Content Per Day: 3.05 Reputation: 1,984 Days Won: 1 Joined: 02/15/2018 Status: Offline Share Posted June 8, 2021 3 hours ago, Caitlin _ said: Hi, I feel sad and hopeless. I saw the gospel message like last may and believed it and repented but then I ended up having a thoughts problem after fear of the unpardonable sin and attacked with unwanted blasphemous thoughts made my head obsessive and I have a fear of thinking sinful thoughts. I’m 17. My relationship with God isn’t good and I’m struggling to follow Jesus. My head has a thought problem for like 5 months I think where I get tempted to think thoughts about people out of obsession and fear of breaking the commands. I read cursing verses in the Bible and then my head obsessed over them and get tempted to think the word curse all the time and about others and other bad thoughts and I don’t mean them. I find it hard to be around people now. I ‘complained’ in my head a lot about how sad I am and how I feel and stuff. I’m scared because I think my heart maybe got filled with other things like worldly things maybe and my love for God. I’m scared incase what if I don’t love Jesus or enough. I try to keep the commands but my head gets tempted to think thoughts about people — my head was never like this before until my head started obsessing over sinful thoghts. And He said to keep the commands. And I think to myself a lot. I’m scared because of my heart state: i think sinful thoughts made it less pure, soft, humble, loving etc.. And I’m scared about my heart state towards God and Jesus. My head has bad thoughts a lot I’m scared of hell and the end times and my family need saved. I think the fear of death has caused me to love myself more and my life and everything like the flowers and colours and being able to walk etc... and I think it caused pride I don’t think I’m on the narrow way and I struggle with thoughts everyday and don’t feel desire for Jesus and like affection for Him. I don’t feel connection with Him and struggle to follow Him and have my heart set on Him. Idk how to change it. And my head mostly thinks about God the Father aswell and hard to focus on Jesus idkk why I’m scared because of the depart from me verse and the bad fruit broken branch verse and I’m scared of God leaving I’m scared because of time and I feel far from God and I want to love Jesus and God more than myself and life. thanks for reading God didnt ask too much from you but love others like you love yourself n avoid sin. Just Get on daily life with that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Sower Posted June 8, 2021 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 14 Topic Count: 32 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 5,267 Content Per Day: 0.97 Reputation: 5,885 Days Won: 1 Joined: 07/09/2009 Status: Offline Popular Post Share Posted June 8, 2021 1 hour ago, Caitlin _ said: Hi, Hello Caitlin. I feel sad and hopeless. I saw the gospel message like last may and believed it and repented but then I ended up having a thoughts problem after fear of the unpardonable sin and attacked with unwanted blasphemous thoughts made my head obsessive and I have a fear of thinking sinful thoughts. I’m 17. I personally would have preferred that I had been saved at 17 yrs, so you are already ahead of many of us:) You may already know what I'm posting, but it's to help a point I want to make. So, Your salvation means you are now a child of God, and along with your adoption are tremendous benefits. First off, as a believer, you cannot commit the unpardonable sin. Period. You belong to God. God will never leave you nor forsake you. You are sealed to the day of redemption.(you cannot help God do what he has already done for you, by works) Feelings of sadness and hopelessness are experienced by all of us, at some time. Even the old prophets in scripture had much or more of your problems. So you're in good company! When you 'repented' you changed your thinking. Repent (metanoeo) means "to think differently'. Sorrow or regret. Reconsider. When you heard the word (which is light, God's light), the gospel, that light entered into your mind. And your mind, like the rest of us before salvation, was full of darkness (lies, faulty programming). This light, of God's word, illuminated the darkness (lies-false understanding) in your mind, and it 'clicked', you reconsidered your past, then more faith entered in, and you "repented". In other words, your thinking changed, enough for faith in God. Faith comes by hearing - the word of God. "Thy word have I hid in my heart that I may not sin against thee" Download the word, light (memorize) Then comes the 'new man/woman thinking. (The battle for the mind) You had sorrow and reconsidered your 'old understanding' of your life, and of your life style. If you were like me, in your excitement as a babe in Christ, you may have had an expectation of being so close to God your old life was gone and no more problems with sin. Yes, and no. You are a new creature in Christ, All things have passed away, all things have become new. But now you have to learn to allow Jesus to carry your burden. We can do nothing on our own. As you are discovering:) But, in Christ, you can do all things. This takes time. Growth. Through your troubles and tribulations. Like birth pains. A new creature is born, in Christ. Of the spirit. You now have WiFi, with God, the Holy Spirit. Take your burdens to God, and leave them. (I know, it ain't easy) My relationship with God isn’t good and I’m struggling to follow Jesus. Your relationship to God is better than you know. You have been equipped by God to handle your troubles. It takes time, and growth. You are still a babe in Christ. You're going to stumble, and fall, like we all have. But God is there for you just a whisper away. Paul in the bible wrote the most in the New Testament. Listen to him say; "For I know that good itself does not dwell in me, that is, in my sinful nature. For I have the desire to do what is good, but I cannot carry it out. I want to do what is good, but I don’t. I don’t want to do what is wrong, but I do it anyway. Thank God! The answer is in Jesus Christ our Lord. So you see how it is: In my mind I really want to obey God’s law, but because of my sinful nature I am a slave to sin. So now there is no condemnation for those who belong to Christ Jesus" That means you, Caitlin. My head has a thought problem for like 5 months I think where I get tempted to think thoughts about people out of obsession and fear of breaking the commands. I've had the similar problem for forty plus years. But I have learned to confess/agree to God they are sin, instantly, and press on. I don't morph over them. And I continually thank God for the victories over those temptations coming from thoughts. Our battle is with the unseen enemy, the devil, and God tells us in Ephesians 6 what to do. The armour has many weapons, but he says of them all; "Above all, taking the shield of faith, wherewith ye shall be able to quench (put out) all the fiery darts of the wicked" Eph 6, 10-18 "Finally, my brethren, be strong in the Lord, and in the power of his might. I believe the fiery darts are doubts from lies, from the prince of lies, the devil. Your faith, your belief in God equipping you with his word, the truth, his truth, gives you (the shield of) faith to believe God's promises instead of the devils lies, those un-asked for thoughts that plague your mind. The battle is for the mind. 99% of my sin is from my mind. The choice maker, of what I think, say or do. The more you program your mind to listen to all your doubts and fears worries lusts etc., you are allowing those fiery darts to get you. The more scripture you 'hide' in your heart, the greater will be your shield of faith, quenching those darts. God has got a lot of promises waiting for you to discover, Caitlin... Think then on those things. I read cursing verses in the Bible and then my head obsessed over them and get tempted to think the word curse all the time and about others and other bad thoughts and I don’t mean them. There were many curses on the Old Testament not applicable today. Think more on the many blessings. I find it hard to be around people now. I ‘complained’ in my head a lot about how sad I am and how I feel and stuff. So spend a season of time alone with God telling him your hurts, and how he tells you to over come them. Prayer is warfare. Warfare is prayer. Get on your knees humbly before the Lord, pore out your heart. God listens, and sees every tear. He loves you more than you will ever know. God is light. His promises are true. All of them. Trust. And Obey. I’m scared because I think my heart maybe got filled with other things like worldly things maybe and my love for God. I’m scared in case what if I don’t love Jesus or enough. I try to keep the commands but my head gets tempted to think thoughts about people — my head was never like this before until my head started obsessing over sinful thoughts. And He said to keep the commands. And I think to myself a lot. I’m scared because of my heart state: i think sinful thoughts made it less pure, soft, humble, loving etc.. And I’m scared about my heart state towards God and Jesus. My head has bad thoughts a lot I’m scared of hell and the end times and my family need saved. Would be better to simply whisper in your mind I'm going to take every thought captive now, and realize, "God hath not given us the spirit of fear; but of power, and of love, and of a sound mind. I think the fear of death has caused me to love myself more and my life and everything like the flowers and colours and being able to walk etc... and I think it caused pride I don’t think I’m on the narrow way and I struggle with thoughts everyday and don’t feel desire for Jesus and like affection for Him. I don’t feel connection with Him and struggle to follow Him and have my heart set on Him. Idk how to change it. I still have periods like that when I'm discouraged. I think everybody does. More fiery darts, quenched by the word, which gives you the faith to believe his promises. I’m scared because of the depart from me verse and the bad fruit broken branch verse and I’m scared of God leaving. As a child of God, he will never leave you or forsake you. Again, you are sealed. I’m scared because of time and I feel far from God and I want to love Jesus and God more than myself and life. That is a great desire, just don't be scared, as that means you haven't learned yet to fully trust God. If you draw close to God, he will draw close to you. thanks for reading You're very welcome. Download as much scripture as possible into your heart. When you hear those 'voices of accusations', just rattle off the scripture to increase your strength within the power of God almighty. Not your own strength. Purchase the little "Bible promise Book" pocket book size, cheap on Ebay, 4-5 bucks used, free shipping. You can look up verses by subject, like worry, or faith, courage guidance, guilt, forgiveness hope etc. Probably close to a hundred subjects, and over a thousand verses. Quick way to find a neat promise from God just for your particular situation. Sounds to me Caitlin like you're on fire to serve the Lord, and as yet don't know fully the neat ways God has equipped you to overcome all your fears. More light (scripture) less darkness (sin) It works. I'm sure you have heard this scripture before, but it is immensely important! "And now, dear brothers and sisters, one final thing. Fix your thoughts on what is true, and honorable, and right, and pure, and lovely, and admirable. Think about things that are excellent and worthy of praise" Think on the good stuff....... 2 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marilyn C Posted June 8, 2021 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 30 Topic Count: 267 Topics Per Day: 0.07 Content Count: 13,225 Content Per Day: 3.49 Reputation: 8,512 Days Won: 12 Joined: 12/21/2013 Status: Offline Birthday: 10/06/1947 Share Posted June 8, 2021 Hi Caitlin, Jesus knows we are not able to keep ourselves, but he is well able to. Just as others have said we are like a babe when we first come to Jesus. And like a babe we mess up etc. Jesus is still holding us. Then I read that you would like to grow and overcome all those thoughts etc that come against you. So...you are now in the school of the Holy Spirit. If you are able get an exercise book and write down an encouraging verse that you see in the Bible, from where you are reading. Then think on that during the day. You can also write other thoughts you have on that topic. If you do that over time, (doesn`t have to be everyday) you will realise that the Lord is speaking to you and encouraging you. This gives you more confidence and you will start to `feed` your spirit. For too long we have fed our wants, our desires, our this, our that, but now it is our spirit that needs to grow. For that inner part is the part that is connected to God and can take in His wisdom and knowledge. Then that changes our minds, which have been tuned to the world and the negative way they think. praying, Marilyn. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reinitin Posted June 8, 2021 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 13 Topic Count: 51 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 2,366 Content Per Day: 0.78 Reputation: 2,150 Days Won: 9 Joined: 01/10/2016 Status: Offline Share Posted June 8, 2021 7 hours ago, Caitlin _ said: Hi, I feel sad and hopeless. I saw the gospel message like last may and believed it and repented but then I ended up having a thoughts problem after fear of the unpardonable sin and attacked with unwanted blasphemous thoughts made my head obsessive and I have a fear of thinking sinful thoughts. I’m 17. My relationship with God isn’t good and I’m struggling to follow Jesus. My head has a thought problem for like 5 months I think where I get tempted to think thoughts about people out of obsession and fear of breaking the commands. I read cursing verses in the Bible and then my head obsessed over them and get tempted to think the word curse all the time and about others and other bad thoughts and I don’t mean them. I find it hard to be around people now. I ‘complained’ in my head a lot about how sad I am and how I feel and stuff. I’m scared because I think my heart maybe got filled with other things like worldly things maybe and my love for God. I’m scared incase what if I don’t love Jesus or enough. I try to keep the commands but my head gets tempted to think thoughts about people — my head was never like this before until my head started obsessing over sinful thoghts. And He said to keep the commands. And I think to myself a lot. I’m scared because of my heart state: i think sinful thoughts made it less pure, soft, humble, loving etc.. And I’m scared about my heart state towards God and Jesus. My head has bad thoughts a lot I’m scared of hell and the end times and my family need saved. I think the fear of death has caused me to love myself more and my life and everything like the flowers and colours and being able to walk etc... and I think it caused pride I don’t think I’m on the narrow way and I struggle with thoughts everyday and don’t feel desire for Jesus and like affection for Him. I don’t feel connection with Him and struggle to follow Him and have my heart set on Him. Idk how to change it. And my head mostly thinks about God the Father aswell and hard to focus on Jesus idkk why I’m scared because of the depart from me verse and the bad fruit broken branch verse and I’m scared of God leaving I’m scared because of time and I feel far from God and I want to love Jesus and God more than myself and life. thanks for reading Hi Caitlin, It's normal. There are over 100 scriptures giving us comfort, encouragment, instruction on how to win this battle in our mind. First, the fear of the Lord is the begining of wisdom. So take a deep breath. Your in a good place. Proverbs 9:10 Second, we love because he loved us first. So just think on that a bit. He loves you. The King of glory loves you and your whole being desires to love him back. 1 john 4:19 Third, you heard the gospel and believed. Do you know while he was in the flesh on this earth Jesus prayed for you? Starting at John 17:20 but i recommend you completely read john 17 I believed the gospel when a friend took me to a youth rally at 13. The only scripture i knew,coming from an athiest family was romans 10:13 "whosoever calls upon the name of the Lord shall be saved" i didnt know anything else i went foward when they called and God loved me and jesus was my Lord and would save me. And i was forgiven. By 20 i had had an abortion was living with my boy freind and found a bible at the house we were renting. I flipped it open only to find i was in big trouble with a holy just and righteous God and had done so many things with the punishment of death. Which my (magic old king james) bible accused me of every time i flipped it open. I literally could feel the battle between jesus and his angels and the forces of satan in a war for my soul and it was all bouncing around in my head. Like you i just wanted to be right with Him again so i kept reading and could see i was already judged. My flesh will die some day because like adam i sinned against God. But Jesus became a heavenly seed inside me and gave me a new life thats eternal and His Holy spirit inside me will raise me from my grave and ill have a new body that doesnt have sin in it. Which was pretty good news when i got to those scriptures. I just kept studying and asking Jesus about what i read not knowing i was supose to be gathering with other Christians so they could share with me the mercy and comforts they recieved. But the Lord was so faithful and eventially got me where i needed to be. So more mature christians could help me. My point is you can't make things right with God that's why He sent Jesus so he could make things right for you. So just keep letting him love you and teach you dont let your mind chase you away. Remember your mind is part of your flesh and not everything you think is true. But Jesus is the Truth and he is holding on to you. And nothing can ever seperate us from Gods love. Romans 8:31-39. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marathoner Posted June 8, 2021 Group: Royal Member Followers: 16 Topic Count: 72 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 10,240 Content Per Day: 7.08 Reputation: 13,252 Days Won: 99 Joined: 05/24/2020 Status: Offline Share Posted June 8, 2021 (edited) 8 hours ago, Caitlin _ said: Hi, I feel sad and hopeless. I saw the gospel message like last may and believed it and repented but then I ended up having a thoughts problem after fear of the unpardonable sin and attacked with unwanted blasphemous thoughts made my head obsessive and I have a fear of thinking sinful thoughts. I’m 17. My relationship with God isn’t good and I’m struggling to follow Jesus. My head has a thought problem for like 5 months I think where I get tempted to think thoughts about people out of obsession and fear of breaking the commands. I read cursing verses in the Bible and then my head obsessed over them and get tempted to think the word curse all the time and about others and other bad thoughts and I don’t mean them. I find it hard to be around people now. I ‘complained’ in my head a lot about how sad I am and how I feel and stuff. I’m scared because I think my heart maybe got filled with other things like worldly things maybe and my love for God. I’m scared incase what if I don’t love Jesus or enough. I try to keep the commands but my head gets tempted to think thoughts about people — my head was never like this before until my head started obsessing over sinful thoghts. And He said to keep the commands. And I think to myself a lot. I’m scared because of my heart state: i think sinful thoughts made it less pure, soft, humble, loving etc.. And I’m scared about my heart state towards God and Jesus. My head has bad thoughts a lot I’m scared of hell and the end times and my family need saved. I think the fear of death has caused me to love myself more and my life and everything like the flowers and colours and being able to walk etc... and I think it caused pride I don’t think I’m on the narrow way and I struggle with thoughts everyday and don’t feel desire for Jesus and like affection for Him. I don’t feel connection with Him and struggle to follow Him and have my heart set on Him. Idk how to change it. And my head mostly thinks about God the Father aswell and hard to focus on Jesus idkk why I’m scared because of the depart from me verse and the bad fruit broken branch verse and I’m scared of God leaving I’m scared because of time and I feel far from God and I want to love Jesus and God more than myself and life. thanks for reading Hello @Caitlin _, it's good to see you on the forum again. Many aren't aware that you suffer from Obsessive Compulsive Disorder, but I haven't forgotten. Struggling with unwanted thoughts is the nature of your affliction, my young friend. Don't be dismayed! I'll remind you that I faced a similar struggle when the Lord claimed me as His own. I was 26 when Jesus Christ saved me and now I'm closing in 60. Does it get better? Yes, it does. You're in God's hand and you're not going anywhere. Write the following down and keep it where you can reach it quickly: I belong to Jesus Christ, the Son of God. Read it over and over again whenever you experience an episode of unwanted thoughts. Praying for you as always. Edited June 8, 2021 by Marathoner 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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