Israel in Prophesy (still future vs 1948)

[AandW_Rootbeer]

1 minute ago, dad2 said:

Not sure why you posted those verses. Do you think they are all past also? The temple being destroyed was prophesied but not part of the great tribulation by any stretch of the imagination.

I posted those Verses, because they relate more in our day and time <NOW> than from 70 A.D.  So those Verses are proving themselves in many ways before our own eyes.  That is called a 2-Fold Prophesy that Christ Fore Warned.  2 Warnings that relate now and later into the future.

[Alive]

Yes--the already, but not yet tension in prophecy, but that doesn't mean we are to set aside those things that are clearly time stamped in the language.

There is the rub. We are all working these things out...we will know when we know, as has always been the case in redemptive history. What was once unclear, becomes clear.

The Lord will make sure of this as He wills.

In the meantime, what are we to do?

Occupy and obey his Commission.

[dad2]

43 minutes ago, AandW_Rootbeer said:

I posted those Verses, because they relate more in our day and time <NOW> than from 70 A.D.  So those Verses are proving themselves in many ways before our own eyes.  That is called a 2-Fold Prophesy that Christ Fore Warned.  2 Warnings that relate now and later into the future.

So where are the verses that are just for 70ad? (AFTER the question was asked about the signs of the end of the world-not before such as when Jesus was talking about the temple being destroyed)

[dad2]

46 minutes ago, Alive said:

Yes--the already, but not yet tension in prophecy, but that doesn't mean we are to set aside those things that are clearly time stamped in the language.

There is the rub. We are all working these things out...we will know when we know, as has always been the case in redemptive history. What was once unclear, becomes clear.

The Lord will make sure of this as He wills.

In the meantime, what are we to do?

Occupy and obey his Commission.

The people in Jesus' day should have been aware that the days had arrived when their messiah was here. Daniel had given the days. They should have had those things worked out. Just as people today should about things we were told about. If anyone tries to put the Tribulation and bowls and etc all in the past, I would say that is a blinding mistake.

 

 After all we should all admit that all the waters are not yet turned to blood, all stars and the sun are not yet gone dark, all trees are not yet burnt up, or the Euphrates not yet dried up, or an army of 200 million come to gather near Armageddon, etc etc. Correct?

Edited July 31, 2021 by dad2

[AandW_Rootbeer]

1 hour ago, dad2 said:

So where are the verses that are just for 70ad? (AFTER the question was asked about the signs of the end of the world-not before such as when Jesus was talking about the temple being destroyed)

The first portion is from Verse One to this portion of Verse 21 For then shall be great tribulation

[AandW_Rootbeer]

23 minutes ago, Josheb said:

So it is what you "see" and not something actually stated in scripture, is that correct? You're aware prophecy is sometimes repetitive? How come all the "thens" aren't simply a sequence of related events all occurring at approximately tha same time?

What I see is <ALL> stated from Scripture itself.   Anything else would be a waste of time.

[dad2]

22 minutes ago, AandW_Rootbeer said:

The first portion is from Verse One to this portion of Verse 21 For then shall be great tribulation

We would need to look at the time Jesus started to answer what the end would be like and the signs of His coming back.

 

Matthew 24:3

 

And as he sat upon the mount of Olives, the disciples came unto him privately, saying, Tell us, when shall these things be? and what shall be the sign of thy coming, and of the end of the world?

Matthew 24:4

 

And Jesus answered and said unto them

 

Ok so here we go, what is said is the answer. The only thing we need to do is look and see if some of these things could have already happened.

 

The next three verses Jesus explained were just things leading up the end. The beginning of sorrows.

Then in verse 9 we see something mentioned that is both something that happened already as well as a sign of the very end. In other words that trait or sign, although it would happen leading up to the very end, would be a hallmark of that special time. In other words, the degree will be far more intense than what was ever seen so far. So sure, we could say that these things ALSO would happen in the decades after Jesus ascended, and all the way till the Tribulation starts.. We could go all the way up to verse 14 like that.  Then it seems to me we have a trait given that will exist just before we enter the very end. The gospel preached in all the world. That is sure done today. Of course I have heard some preachers say that it is not really yet in all the world and won't be till the Tribulation when angels and special witnesses etc are here to preach it to the world. But whatever the case, now we get to the end here I would say.

 

Matthew 24:14

 

And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.

 

By verse 15 we are right into it for sure! The three and a half year countdown begins as the trigger event happens that lets all believers know it is on! When we see that happen we know it is over almost. There is no way you can claim that there is more time such as thousands of years involved here.

 

Matthew 24:15

 

When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation

 

21 then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be

 

Daniel 12:11

 

And from the time that the daily sacrifice shall be taken away, and the abomination that maketh desolate set up, there shall be a thousand two hundred and ninety days.

 

 

 

 

Edited August 1, 2021 by dad2

[AandW_Rootbeer]

45 minutes ago, dad2 said:

We would need to look at the time Jesus started to answer what the end would be like and the signs of His coming back.

 

Matthew 24:3

 

And as he sat upon the mount of Olives, the disciples came unto him privately, saying, Tell us, when shall these things be? and what shall be the sign of thy coming, and of the end of the world?

Matthew 24:4

 

And Jesus answered and said unto them

 

Ok so here we go, what is said is the answer. The only thing we need to do is look and see if some of these things could have already happened.

 

The next three verses Jesus explained were just things leading up the end. The beginning of sorrows.

Then in verse 9 we see something mentioned that is both something that happened already as well as a sign of the very end. In other words that trait or sign, although it would happen leading up to the very end, would be a hallmark of that special time. In other words, the degree will be far more intense than what was ever seen so far. So sure, we could say that these things ALSO would happen in the decades after Jesus ascended, and all the way till the Tribulation starts.. We could go all the way up to verse 14 like that.  Then it seems to me we have a trait given that will exist just before we enter the very end. The gospel preached in all the world. That is sure done today. Of course I have heard some preachers say that it is not really yet in all the world and won't be till the Tribulation when angels and special witnesses etc are here to preach it to the world. But whatever the case, now we get to the end here I would say.

 

Matthew 24:14

 

And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.

 

By verse 15 we are right into it for sure! The three and a half year countdown begins as the trigger event happens that lets all believers know it is on! When we see that happen we know it is over almost. There is no way you can claim that there is more time such as thousands of years involved here.

 

Matthew 24:15

 

When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation

 

21 then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be

 

Daniel 12:11

 

And from the time that the daily sacrifice shall be taken away, and the abomination that maketh desolate set up, there shall be a thousand two hundred and ninety days.

 

 

 

 

I truly Applaud your effort.   I noticed you can see things from another angle.   We are discussing God's Words.   Just reread what you write.   Things are coming clearer 

[DeighAnn]

17 minutes ago, dad2 said:

We would need to look at the time Jesus started to answer what the end would be like and the signs of His coming back.

 

Matthew 24:3

 

And as he sat upon the mount of Olives, the disciples came unto him privately, saying, Tell us, when shall these things be? and what shall be the sign of thy coming, and of the end of the world?

Matthew 24:4

 

And Jesus answered and said unto them

 

Ok so here we go, what is said is the answer. The only thing we need to do is look and see if some of these things could have already happened.

 

The next three verses Jesus explained were just things leading up the end. The beginning of sorrows.

Then in verse 9 we see something mentioned that is both something that happened already as well as a sign of the very end. In other words that trait or sign, although it would happen leading up to the very end, would be a hallmark of that special time. In other words, the degree will be far more intense than what was ever seen so far. So sure, we could say that these things ALSO would happen in the decades after Jesus ascended, and all the way till the Tribulation starts.. We could go all the way up to verse 14 like that.  Then it seems to me we have a trait given that will exist just before we enter the very end. The gospel preached in all the world. That is sure done today. Of course I have heard some preachers say that it is not really yet in all the world and won't be till the Tribulation when angels and special witnesses etc are here to preach it to the world. But whatever the case, now we get to the end here I would say.

 

Matthew 24:14

 

And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.

 

By verse 15 we are right into it for sure! The three and a half year countdown begins as the trigger event happens that lets all believers know it is on! When we see that happen we know it is over almost. There is no way you can claim that there is more time such as thousands of years involved here.

 

Matthew 24:15

 

When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation

 

21 then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be

 

Daniel 12:11

 

And from the time that the daily sacrifice shall be taken away, and the abomination that maketh desolate set up, there shall be a thousand two hundred and ninety days.

 

 

 

 

Hi Dad,

I didn't read through all these so hopefully just a repeat but I needed to go over it again and thought, how about now....and if not a repeat see what you think....

Matt and Mark are same,
Luke is different till fig, then the same.  

Luke spoken IN the temple, men casting into the treasury and the END not by and by  Questions

Matt and Mark - OUT and departed from the temple, later Mount of Olives, and End is not yet.  

Luke 21:1 And he looked up, and saw the rich men casting their gifts into the treasury.

Luke 21:2 And he saw also a certain poor widow casting in thither two mites.

Luke 21:3 And he said, Of a truth I say unto you, that this poor widow hath cast in more than they all:

Luke 21:4 For all these have of their abundance cast in unto the offerings of God: but she of her penury hath cast in all the living that she had.

Luke 21:5 And as some spake of the temple, how it was adorned with goodly stones and gifts, he said,

Luke 21:6 As for these things which ye behold, the days will come, in the which there shall not be left one stone upon another, that shall not be thrown down.

Luke 21:7 And they asked him, saying, Master, but when shall these things be? and what sign will there be when these things shall come to pass?

Luke 21:8 And he said, Take heed that ye be not deceived: for many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and the time draweth near: go ye not therefore after them.

Luke 21:9 But when ye shall hear of wars and commotions, be not terrified: for these things must first come to pass; but the end is not by and by.

Luke 21:10 Then said he unto them, Nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom:

Luke 21:11 And great earthquakes shall be in divers places, and famines, and pestilences; and fearful sights and great signs shall there be from heaven.

Luke 21:12 But before all these, they shall lay their hands on you, and persecute you, delivering you up to the synagogues, and into prisons, being brought before kings and rulers for my name's sake.

LUKE GOES BACKWARDS


MATT GOES FORWARDS

Matthew 24:8 All these are the beginning of sorrows.

Matthew 24:9 Then shall they deliver you up to be afflicted, and shall kill you: and ye shall be hated of all nations for my name's sake.

Matthew 24:10 And then shall many be offended, and shall betray one another, and shall hate one another.

Matthew 24:11 And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many.


THESE HAPPEN  JERUSALEM

Luke 21:12 But before all these, they shall lay their hands on you, and persecute you, delivering you up to the synagogues, and into prisons, being brought before kings and rulers for my name's sake.

Luke 21:13 And it shall turn to you for a testimony.

Luke 21:14 Settle it therefore in your hearts, not to meditate before what ye shall answer:

Luke 21:15 For I will give you a mouth and wisdom, which all your adversaries shall not be able to gainsay nor resist.

Luke 21:16 And ye shall be betrayed both by parents, and brethren, and kinsfolks, and friends; and some of you shall they cause to be put to death.

Luke 21:17 And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake.

Luke 21:18 But there shall not an hair of your head perish.

Luke 21:19 In your patience possess ye your souls.

Luke 21:20 And when ye shall see Jerusalem compassed with armies, then know that the desolation thereof is nigh.

Luke 21:21 Then let them which are in Judaea flee to the mountains; and let them which are in the midst of it depart out; and let not them that are in the countries enter thereinto.

Luke 21:22 For these be the days of vengeance, that all things which are written may be fulfilled.
WRITTEN OF THESE DAYS,  NOT ALL THINGS WRITTEN OF ALL DAYS

Luke 21:23 But woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck, in those days! for there shall be great distress in the land, and wrath upon this people.

Luke 21:24 And they shall fall by the edge of the sword, and shall be led away captive into all nations: and Jerusalem shall be trodden down of the Gentiles, until the times of the Gentiles be fulfilled.


Here the sorrows and labor pains described
 

Matthew 24:8 All these are the beginning of sorrows.

Matthew 24:9 Then shall they deliver you up to be afflicted, and shall kill you: and ye shall be hated of all nations for my name's sake.

Matthew 24:10 And then shall many be offended, and shall betray one another, and shall hate one another.

Matthew 24:11 And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many.

Matthew 24:12 And because iniquity shall abound, the love of many shall wax cold.

Matthew 24:13 But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.

Matthew 24:14 And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.

Matthew 24:15 When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand:)

Matthew 24:16 Then let them which be in Judaea flee into the mountains:

Matthew 24:17 Let him which is on the housetop not come down to take any thing out of his house:

Matthew 24:18 Neither let him which is in the field return back to take his clothes.

Matthew 24:19 And woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck in those days!

Matthew 24:20 But pray ye that your flight be not in the winter, neither on the sabbath day:

Matthew 24:21 For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.

Matthew 24:22 And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened.

Matthew 24:23 Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there; believe it not.

Matthew 24:24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.

Matthew 24:25 Behold, I have told you before.

Matthew 24:26 Wherefore if they shall say unto you, Behold, he is in the desert; go not forth: behold, he is in the secret chambers; believe it not.

Matthew 24:27 For as the lightning cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.

Matthew 24:28 For wheresoever the carcase is, there will the eagles be gathered together.

Luke IN the temple, no great trib talk but jumps to end with His coming in the Clouds of Heaven.

Luke answers  When shall these things be?  What sign shall there be when these thengs shall come to pass?  1 answer 8-24  2 answer  25-28.



Matt 24 on Mount of Olives, in answer to   -   3
1 - When shall these things be   2 - What shall be the sign of Thy coming   and 3 - end of age.
Answers 1 - 4-14,   2 - 15-27,   3 - 29-31


All end with Fig tree

 

 

For those WHO KNOW THE GREEK, they would be telling you what is going on with these verses as far as 'translating' them into English goes and how the endings are dependings on other things that will or will not take place.  

Matthew 10:23 But when they persecute you in this city, flee ye into another: for verily I say unto you, Ye shall not have gone over the cities of Israel, till the Son of man be come.

Matthew 16:28 Verily I say unto you, There be some standing here, which shall not taste of death, till they see the Son of man coming in his kingdom.

Matthew 23:39 For I say unto you, Ye shall not see me henceforth, till ye shall say, Blessed is he that cometh in the name of the Lord.

Matthew 24:34 Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled.

which all comes down to the NATION HAD TO REPENT WHEN appealed to by the other servants

 

Matthew 22:1 And Jesus answered and spake unto them again by parables, and said,
Matthew 22:2 The kingdom of heaven is like unto a certain king, which made a marriage for his son,

Matthew 22:3 And sent forth his servants to call them that were bidden to the wedding: and they would not come.

Matthew 22:4 Again, he sent forth other servants, saying, Tell them which are bidden, Behold, I have prepared my dinner: my oxen and my fatlings are killed, and all things are ready: come unto the marriage.

 

Acts 3:18 But those things, which God before had shewed by the mouth of all his prophets, that Christ should suffer, he hath so fulfilled.

Acts 3:19 Repent ye therefore, and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out, when the times of refreshing shall come from the presence of the Lord.

Acts 3:20 And he shall send Jesus Christ, which before was preached unto you:

Acts 3:21 Whom the heaven must receive until the times of restitution of all things, which God hath spoken by the mouth of all his holy prophets since the world began.

Acts 3:22 For Moses truly said unto the fathers, A prophet shall the Lord your God raise up unto you of your brethren, like unto me; him shall ye hear in all things whatsoever he shall say unto you.

Acts 3:23 And it shall come to pass, that every soul, which will not hear that prophet, shall be destroyed from among the people.

Acts 3:24 Yea, and all the prophets from Samuel and those that follow after, as many as have spoken, have likewise foretold of these days.

Acts 3:25 Ye are the children of the prophets, and of the covenant which God made with our fathers, saying unto Abraham, And in thy seed shall all the kindreds of the earth be blessed.

Acts 3:26 Unto you first God, having raised up his Son Jesus, sent him to bless you, in turning away every one of you from his iniquities.

 

Acts 28:17 And it came to pass, that after three days Paul called the chief of the Jews together: and when they were come together, he said unto them, Men and brethren, though I have committed nothing against the people, or customs of our fathers, yet was I delivered prisoner from Jerusalem into the hands of the Romans.

Acts 28:18 Who, when they had examined me, would have let me go, because there was no cause of death in me.

Acts 28:19 But when the Jews spake against it, I was constrained to appeal unto Caesar; not that I had ought to accuse my nation of.

Acts 28:20 For this cause therefore have I called for you, to see you, and to speak with you: because that for the hope of Israel I am bound with this chain.

Acts 28:21 And they said unto him, We neither received letters out of Judaea concerning thee, neither any of the brethren that came shewed or spake any harm of thee.

Acts 28:22 But we desire to hear of thee what thou thinkest: for as concerning this sect, we know that every where it is spoken against.

Acts 28:23 And when they had appointed him a day, there came many to him into his lodging; to whom he expounded and testified the kingdom of God, persuading them concerning Jesus, both out of the law of Moses, and out of the prophets, from morning till evening.

Acts 28:24 And some believed the things which were spoken, and some believed not.

Acts 28:25 And when they agreed not among themselves, they departed, after that Paul had spoken one word, Well spake the Holy Ghost by Esaias the prophet unto our fathers,

Acts 28:26 Saying, Go unto this people, and say, Hearing ye shall hear, and shall not understand; and seeing ye shall see, and not perceive:

Acts 28:27 For the heart of this people is waxed gross, and their ears are dull of hearing, and their eyes have they closed; lest they should see with their eyes, and hear with their ears, and understand with their heart, and should be converted, and I should heal them.

Acts 28:28 Be it known therefore unto you, that the salvation of God is sent unto the Gentiles, and that they will hear it.

Acts 28:29 And when he had said these words, the Jews departed, and had great reasoning among themselves.


BOTH PROPHECIES ARE DEPENDANT UPON
REPENTANCE
WHICH DIDN'T HAPPEN, BUT WILL, AND SO THEY BECAME OF THE FUTURE.  



IF IT HAD TAKEN PLACE then Jesus would have been sent then FOR THE RESTORATION OF ALL THINGS WHICH GOD HAD SPOKEN

NOW, IT is up to the INDIVIDUAL to look around and see if THIS HAS TAKEN PLACE OR NOT.  

IF someone tells you 'it has' and your own eyes and ears and heart and mind and knowledge of Gods words 

SCREAM 'NO WAY' 

probably best believe your own eyes and REMEMBER

MANY ANTICHRISTS ARE COME TODAY 

If it's dark out with a full moon over head and someone tells you it is really 'daytime and not night',  and then proceeds to tell you with lots of words and reasons and the kitchen sink why they are correct, RUN.  

 

Leviticus 26:40 If they shall confess their iniquity, and the iniquity of their fathers, with their trespass which they trespassed against me, and that also they have walked contrary unto me
THIS DIDN'T HAPPEN

Leviticus 26:41 And that I also have walked contrary unto them, and have brought them into the land of their enemies; if then their uncircumcised hearts be humbled, and they then accept of the punishment of their iniquity
THEY DIDN'T

Leviticus 26:42 Then will I remember my covenant with Jacob, and also my covenant with Isaac, and also my covenant with Abraham will I remember; and I will remember the land.
STILL YET FUTURE

D

[dad2]

1 hour ago, DeighAnn said:

Hi Dad,

I didn't read through all these so hopefully just a repeat but I needed to go over it again and thought, how about now....and if not a repeat see what you think....

Matt and Mark are same,
Luke is different till fig, then the same.  

Luke spoken IN the temple, men casting into the treasury and the END not by and by  Questions

Matt and Mark - OUT and departed from the temple, later Mount of Olives, and End is not yet.  

Luke 21:1 And he looked up, and saw the rich men casting their gifts into the treasury.

Luke 21:2 And he saw also a certain poor widow casting in thither two mites.

Luke 21:3 And he said, Of a truth I say unto you, that this poor widow hath cast in more than they all:

Luke 21:4 For all these have of their abundance cast in unto the offerings of God: but she of her penury hath cast in all the living that she had.

Luke 21:5 And as some spake of the temple, how it was adorned with goodly stones and gifts, he said,

Luke 21:6 As for these things which ye behold, the days will come, in the which there shall not be left one stone upon another, that shall not be thrown down.

Luke 21:7 And they asked him, saying, Master, but when shall these things be? and what sign will there be when these things shall come to pass?

Luke 21:8 And he said, Take heed that ye be not deceived: for many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and the time draweth near: go ye not therefore after them.

Luke 21:9 But when ye shall hear of wars and commotions, be not terrified: for these things must first come to pass; but the end is not by and by.

Luke 21:10 Then said he unto them, Nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom:

Luke 21:11 And great earthquakes shall be in divers places, and famines, and pestilences; and fearful sights and great signs shall there be from heaven.

Luke 21:12 But before all these, they shall lay their hands on you, and persecute you, delivering you up to the synagogues, and into prisons, being brought before kings and rulers for my name's sake.

LUKE GOES BACKWARDS


MATT GOES FORWARDS

Matthew 24:8 All these are the beginning of sorrows.

Matthew 24:9 Then shall they deliver you up to be afflicted, and shall kill you: and ye shall be hated of all nations for my name's sake.

Matthew 24:10 And then shall many be offended, and shall betray one another, and shall hate one another.

Matthew 24:11 And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many.


THESE HAPPEN  JERUSALEM

Luke 21:12 But before all these, they shall lay their hands on you, and persecute you, delivering you up to the synagogues, and into prisons, being brought before kings and rulers for my name's sake.

Luke 21:13 And it shall turn to you for a testimony.

Luke 21:14 Settle it therefore in your hearts, not to meditate before what ye shall answer:

Luke 21:15 For I will give you a mouth and wisdom, which all your adversaries shall not be able to gainsay nor resist.

Luke 21:16 And ye shall be betrayed both by parents, and brethren, and kinsfolks, and friends; and some of you shall they cause to be put to death.

Luke 21:17 And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake.

Luke 21:18 But there shall not an hair of your head perish.

Luke 21:19 In your patience possess ye your souls.

Luke 21:20 And when ye shall see Jerusalem compassed with armies, then know that the desolation thereof is nigh.

Luke 21:21 Then let them which are in Judaea flee to the mountains; and let them which are in the midst of it depart out; and let not them that are in the countries enter thereinto.

Luke 21:22 For these be the days of vengeance, that all things which are written may be fulfilled.
WRITTEN OF THESE DAYS,  NOT ALL THINGS WRITTEN OF ALL DAYS

Luke 21:23 But woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck, in those days! for there shall be great distress in the land, and wrath upon this people.

Luke 21:24 And they shall fall by the edge of the sword, and shall be led away captive into all nations: and Jerusalem shall be trodden down of the Gentiles, until the times of the Gentiles be fulfilled.


Here the sorrows and labor pains described
 

Matthew 24:8 All these are the beginning of sorrows.

Matthew 24:9 Then shall they deliver you up to be afflicted, and shall kill you: and ye shall be hated of all nations for my name's sake.

Matthew 24:10 And then shall many be offended, and shall betray one another, and shall hate one another.

Matthew 24:11 And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many.

Matthew 24:12 And because iniquity shall abound, the love of many shall wax cold.

Matthew 24:13 But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.

Matthew 24:14 And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.

Matthew 24:15 When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand:)

Matthew 24:16 Then let them which be in Judaea flee into the mountains:

Matthew 24:17 Let him which is on the housetop not come down to take any thing out of his house:

Matthew 24:18 Neither let him which is in the field return back to take his clothes.

Matthew 24:19 And woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck in those days!

Matthew 24:20 But pray ye that your flight be not in the winter, neither on the sabbath day:

Matthew 24:21 For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.

Matthew 24:22 And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened.

Matthew 24:23 Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there; believe it not.

Matthew 24:24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.

Matthew 24:25 Behold, I have told you before.

Matthew 24:26 Wherefore if they shall say unto you, Behold, he is in the desert; go not forth: behold, he is in the secret chambers; believe it not.

Matthew 24:27 For as the lightning cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.

Matthew 24:28 For wheresoever the carcase is, there will the eagles be gathered together.

Luke IN the temple, no great trib talk but jumps to end with His coming in the Clouds of Heaven.

Luke answers  When shall these things be?  What sign shall there be when these thengs shall come to pass?  1 answer 8-24  2 answer  25-28.



Matt 24 on Mount of Olives, in answer to   -   3
1 - When shall these things be   2 - What shall be the sign of Thy coming   and 3 - end of age.
Answers 1 - 4-14,   2 - 15-27,   3 - 29-31


All end with Fig tree

 

 

For those WHO KNOW THE GREEK, they would be telling you what is going on with these verses as far as 'translating' them into English goes and how the endings are dependings on other things that will or will not take place.  

Matthew 10:23 But when they persecute you in this city, flee ye into another: for verily I say unto you, Ye shall not have gone over the cities of Israel, till the Son of man be come.

Matthew 16:28 Verily I say unto you, There be some standing here, which shall not taste of death, till they see the Son of man coming in his kingdom.

Matthew 23:39 For I say unto you, Ye shall not see me henceforth, till ye shall say, Blessed is he that cometh in the name of the Lord.

Matthew 24:34 Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled.

which all comes down to the NATION HAD TO REPENT WHEN appealed to by the other servants

 

Matthew 22:1 And Jesus answered and spake unto them again by parables, and said,
Matthew 22:2 The kingdom of heaven is like unto a certain king, which made a marriage for his son,

Matthew 22:3 And sent forth his servants to call them that were bidden to the wedding: and they would not come.

Matthew 22:4 Again, he sent forth other servants, saying, Tell them which are bidden, Behold, I have prepared my dinner: my oxen and my fatlings are killed, and all things are ready: come unto the marriage.

 

Acts 3:18 But those things, which God before had shewed by the mouth of all his prophets, that Christ should suffer, he hath so fulfilled.

Acts 3:19 Repent ye therefore, and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out, when the times of refreshing shall come from the presence of the Lord.

Acts 3:20 And he shall send Jesus Christ, which before was preached unto you:

Acts 3:21 Whom the heaven must receive until the times of restitution of all things, which God hath spoken by the mouth of all his holy prophets since the world began.

Acts 3:22 For Moses truly said unto the fathers, A prophet shall the Lord your God raise up unto you of your brethren, like unto me; him shall ye hear in all things whatsoever he shall say unto you.

Acts 3:23 And it shall come to pass, that every soul, which will not hear that prophet, shall be destroyed from among the people.

Acts 3:24 Yea, and all the prophets from Samuel and those that follow after, as many as have spoken, have likewise foretold of these days.

Acts 3:25 Ye are the children of the prophets, and of the covenant which God made with our fathers, saying unto Abraham, And in thy seed shall all the kindreds of the earth be blessed.

Acts 3:26 Unto you first God, having raised up his Son Jesus, sent him to bless you, in turning away every one of you from his iniquities.

 

Acts 28:17 And it came to pass, that after three days Paul called the chief of the Jews together: and when they were come together, he said unto them, Men and brethren, though I have committed nothing against the people, or customs of our fathers, yet was I delivered prisoner from Jerusalem into the hands of the Romans.

Acts 28:18 Who, when they had examined me, would have let me go, because there was no cause of death in me.

Acts 28:19 But when the Jews spake against it, I was constrained to appeal unto Caesar; not that I had ought to accuse my nation of.

Acts 28:20 For this cause therefore have I called for you, to see you, and to speak with you: because that for the hope of Israel I am bound with this chain.

Acts 28:21 And they said unto him, We neither received letters out of Judaea concerning thee, neither any of the brethren that came shewed or spake any harm of thee.

Acts 28:22 But we desire to hear of thee what thou thinkest: for as concerning this sect, we know that every where it is spoken against.

Acts 28:23 And when they had appointed him a day, there came many to him into his lodging; to whom he expounded and testified the kingdom of God, persuading them concerning Jesus, both out of the law of Moses, and out of the prophets, from morning till evening.

Acts 28:24 And some believed the things which were spoken, and some believed not.

Acts 28:25 And when they agreed not among themselves, they departed, after that Paul had spoken one word, Well spake the Holy Ghost by Esaias the prophet unto our fathers,

Acts 28:26 Saying, Go unto this people, and say, Hearing ye shall hear, and shall not understand; and seeing ye shall see, and not perceive:

Acts 28:27 For the heart of this people is waxed gross, and their ears are dull of hearing, and their eyes have they closed; lest they should see with their eyes, and hear with their ears, and understand with their heart, and should be converted, and I should heal them.

Acts 28:28 Be it known therefore unto you, that the salvation of God is sent unto the Gentiles, and that they will hear it.

Acts 28:29 And when he had said these words, the Jews departed, and had great reasoning among themselves.


BOTH PROPHECIES ARE DEPENDANT UPON
REPENTANCE
WHICH DIDN'T HAPPEN, BUT WILL, AND SO THEY BECAME OF THE FUTURE.  



IF IT HAD TAKEN PLACE then Jesus would have been sent then FOR THE RESTORATION OF ALL THINGS WHICH GOD HAD SPOKEN

NOW, IT is up to the INDIVIDUAL to look around and see if THIS HAS TAKEN PLACE OR NOT.  

IF someone tells you 'it has' and your own eyes and ears and heart and mind and knowledge of Gods words 

SCREAM 'NO WAY' 

probably best believe your own eyes and REMEMBER

MANY ANTICHRISTS ARE COME TODAY 

If it's dark out with a full moon over head and someone tells you it is really 'daytime and not night',  and then proceeds to tell you with lots of words and reasons and the kitchen sink why they are correct, RUN.  

 

Leviticus 26:40 If they shall confess their iniquity, and the iniquity of their fathers, with their trespass which they trespassed against me, and that also they have walked contrary unto me
THIS DIDN'T HAPPEN

Leviticus 26:41 And that I also have walked contrary unto them, and have brought them into the land of their enemies; if then their uncircumcised hearts be humbled, and they then accept of the punishment of their iniquity
THEY DIDN'T

Leviticus 26:42 Then will I remember my covenant with Jacob, and also my covenant with Isaac, and also my covenant with Abraham will I remember; and I will remember the land.
STILL YET FUTURE

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I think I got lost somewhere after around the 241st verse you posted:) But you seem to be agreeing that it was not God bringing the Jews back yet. Right?