“Eternal Salvation”

[Your closest friendnt]

6 hours ago, Riverwalker said:

Then let us ensure that we are fully infect by the one strain 

Jesus is not a virus .

[Your closest friendnt]

44 minutes ago, WordSword said:

Amen, and it's His "work" in our heart that will keep us from ever willing after the old man again (Phl 2:13). It's the heart God claims, because it's where one's treasure is (Mat 6:21).

 

I am thinking about that, something sounds off, I will be back.

Was this said to Judge some of the believer or to separate them from the blood of Jesus Christ. 

[Riverwalker]

22 minutes ago, Your closest friendnt said:

Jesus is not a virus .

Just word play

[Selah7]

1 hour ago, Your closest friendnt said:

On reading the above scriptures we come to understand that anyone who believes in Jesus Christ he is also one of the children of God and God is their Father.

The Heavenly Father of Jesus Christ is also our Father.

Our place is with him in Jesus Christ name.

We are born in the family of the Heavenly Father by faith in Jesus Christ.

We have the blood of Jesus Christ in our hearts death cannot come to us.

We are alive to God because of Jesus Christ. 

Jesus Christ is our peace with God. 

 

And Jesus Christ is indeed God.

Edited July 26, 2021 by Selah7

[WordSword]

1 hour ago, Your closest friendnt said:

Was this said to Judge some of the believer or to separate them from the blood of Jesus Christ. 

Hi, and not sure what you mean. Restate?

[Bro.Tan]

Jesus warned us that the road to salvation is straight and narrow and that only a few of us will find it. Many are traveling down the wrong road, which leads to destruction. This is because many of us have heard about salvation but few of us want to do what is necessary to get salvation (many are called but few are chosen). (Matthew 7:13, 14) Many contend that Jesus did it all and now all we have to do is have faith. Nevertheless, the bible speaks of only one way to get eternal salvation. "One Lord, one faith, one baptism, one God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all.” (Ephesians 4:5,6).  The road to eternal salvation starts with knowledge of the Holy Scriptures. God doesn't want us to memorize two or three verses, but instead he left the entire bible so we can learn how to get salvation. If we learn it, believe it and obey it (the bible), salvation will be our reward. For the Son of man shall come in the glory of his Father with his angels; and then he shall reward every man according to his works. (Matthew 16:27)

The bible says, we must not only be a hearer of the word, but a doer of the word also (James 1:21-22). DON'T FOOL YOURSELF! If we really have faith in Jesus our actions will prove it. If Jesus is our Lord then we will obey him. Even a child will obey a parent, by getting good grades in school, for the reward of a new bicycle. The child cannot earn money for the bicycle, but instead must act upon their faith to receive the free gift. We must do the same to receive eternal life. "FAITH WITHOUT WORKS IS DEAD" (James 2:20).

 A man asked Jesus this very question, "...What good thing shall I do that I may have eternal life?", and Jesus replied, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments. (Matthew 19:16-19). 

This was a direct answer to a direct question, which all of us will do well to take heed to. Anybody can claim to have faith, but actions speak louder than words. Faith and works go together and you can't have one without the other. "Here is the patience of the saints; here are they that keep the commandments of God and the faith of Jesus" (Revelation 14:12). 

 

 

[enoob57]

The majority of churches teach a work based salvation however they don't realize there is nothing here that God is going to keep not even the memory of...  This is probably the most telling of error thinking the manipulation of things that will be forgotten will produce eternal anything...

[Willa]

In the 50s  I was neither grounded well in the word nor had been taught any doctrine, so it was very easy for me to trust in my own works.  I became the foolish Galatian.

 Gal 3:3  Are you so foolish? Having begun in the Spirit, are you now being made perfect by the flesh?

Somehow I thought that Jesus had given me a fresh start to try to be good enough to go to heaven.  I had begun in the Spirit since the Father had revealed Himself to me and the Spirit had convicted me of sin.  I had repented and read through the New Testament. Yet when I trust in my works I automatically stop trusting in God's grace to perfect me. That resulted in self righteousness.  BIG MISTAKE!  

You might say that I was not really saved, but I really wanted to obey God.  I just had not learned to let go and let God.  In fact, I didn't know it was possible to do so.  My only doctrine came from "Santa Clause is Coming to Town."   He's making a list, checking it twice, looking to see who's naughty or nice, Santa Clause is coming to town.  He sees you when you're sleeping, he knows when you're awake, he knows if you've been bad or good so be good for goodness sake.  When I finally learned that salvation is by faith which was freeing,  my mom told me "but you still have to be good", which sunk me back into the oppression of trying to be good enough to go to heaven.   Eventually I was taught foundation doctrines like the trinity, salvation by faith, as well as taught about the work of the Holy Spirit in our lives.  I learned again to walk in the Spirit, but this time I recognized how He was working to guide me.

[Your closest friendnt]

1 hour ago, Selah7 said:

And Jesus Christ is indeed God.

That's a little bit tricky, it will depend on what someone has in his mind. 

Definitely he is not the Heavenly Father. 

He is the man Jesus.

We all know how he started and where he ended.

He has the power of God. 

He said in the book of revelation I am the all Mighty God.  He said more than once that I am God.

But this after he was Glorified. 

We cannot preach the Gospel by arguing that Jesus is God.

What he is now after being glorified is understood. 

But when he was born and how he was born and his life and his sufferings and death on the Cross and his descend to the place of the dead, following his in his human Inheritance this can be not as God but as a man. Divine but still a man. And not as God.

God never went down to the place of the dead where Jesus Christ went.

Jesus the Son of God who died for the forgiveness of our sins. 

He was divine he was not from the seed of a Jewish man. 

He was conceived and was for nine months the full gestation period for a human in the womb of Mary and then the labour pains and he was born. 

[Sower]

7 hours ago, Dennis1209 said:

Whatcha think Sower? How many posts in before this turns into OSAS; Hebrews 6: discussion? No, I'm not a prophet or for profit 

Don't stir the hornet's nest.......