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9 minutes ago, Chicken coop2 said:

Why is this in political forum? 

Why do you think?

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1 minute ago, Chicken coop2 said:

Not sure.  First, there are many Americans who are against abortion regardless of political affiliation.  Second, Worthy website is for the entire world and, for example, this topic would not be a political issue for them.  

Yes regardless--I agree--and yet the topic is steeped in politics and will only be resolved, if at all by law.

See what I mean?

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On 7/31/2021 at 10:55 AM, Tammy Roesch said:

Have you noticed that those who claim to be PRO-CHOICE are really NOT PRO-CHOICE?  The Innocent, Helpless Baby they are happy to kill HAS NO CHOICE.  It's not that they are PRO-CHOICE at all.  They are just SELFISH and want THEIR CHOICE.

that is what they mean by pro-choice.   It is the woman's choice....   her body her choice.   And I guess she has the God given right to that decision.....   and it's consequences.  Problem I see is the question of what are the consequences of condoning it, or not.

In January 1973 it became legal for a woman to murder her unborn baby.    What has changed to the moral fabric of the USA after that date.    Did things notable change?   Was it changing prior to that and Roe v Wade just a symptom of those changes.   So many questions and so few answers.


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9 minutes ago, other one said:

that is what they mean by pro-choice.   It is the woman's choice....   her body her choice.   And I guess she has the God given right to that decision.....   and it's consequences.  Problem I see is the question of what are the consequences of condoning it, or not.

In January 1973 it became legal for a woman to murder her unborn baby.    What has changed to the moral fabric of the USA after that date.    Did things notable change?   Was it changing prior to that and Roe v Wade just a symptom of those changes.   So many questions and so few answers.

I can't prove it, but I have long believed that Roe was a turning point of sorts. I don't know ultimately what the consequences are/will be, but I see it like this.

Molech worship---there has always been sin and abortion and individuals are responsible to God for those decisions. I think that there is a difference between that individual principle and that of a 'nation' giving approval. I believe God deals with individuals, but also nations. The nation tacitly gave approval to worship molloch.

These are my opinions and not necessarily those of the network, owner or members at large.

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What if there were a better way to reduce abortions than through prohibiting laws? What if supporting mothers-to-be and children did more to reduce abortion?

https://www.americanprogress.org/issues/women/news/2006/01/20/1796/the-right-way-to-reduce-abortion/

Speaking personally, I would actually LOVE to pay more taxes to see this happen.

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16 minutes ago, Alive said:

I can't prove it, but I have long believed that Roe was a turning point of sorts. I don't know ultimately what the consequences are/will be, but I see it like this.

Molech worship---there has always been sin and abortion and individuals are responsible to God for those decisions. I think that there is a difference between that individual principle and that of a 'nation' giving approval. I believe God deals with individuals, but also nations. The nation tacitly gave approval to worship molloch.

These are my opinions and not necessarily those of the network, owner or members at large.

The early promotors of Legal Abortion were involved in Eugenics and were trying to rid the world of types of undesirable people.   Low IQ and genetically impure along with black folk.   I don't know if they were followers of Moloch worship, but they certainly were of the devil.   Because of them people like Hitler were shocked that we would be so against what he was doing to both Jews and Gypsies.....   and anyone deemed not a good healthy smart human.

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Within the last 10 years or so, there was an incredible double standard happening in Canada. Right now, Canada has no laws or restrictions of any kind against abortion. It was reported awhile back that some families, particularly those of cultures/tradtiions that greatly value boys over girls, were terminating pregnancies of girls. 

This naturally caused a stir, and calls were made, often by those who defended the right of abortion, for doctors not to reveal the babies sex while in the womb. I think we can clearly see the problem here. If there are no laws and restrictions, then there are no laws and restrictions. Once an abortion-supporter starts implying value to the unborn, the whole argument for unrestricted abortion starts to fall apart.

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On 7/31/2021 at 11:55 PM, Tammy Roesch said:

Have you noticed that those who claim to be PRO-CHOICE are really NOT PRO-CHOICE?  The Innocent, Helpless Baby they are happy to kill HAS NO CHOICE.  It's not that they are PRO-CHOICE at all.  They are just SELFISH and want THEIR CHOICE.

Not that I am in favor of abortions but isn't that the meaning of Pro Choice? Pro Choice mean Pro my Choice.

 

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I likewise think that "pro choice" refers to the woman's choice as some scientists argue that an embryo does not possess personhood up to a certain stage of development. Of course, Christians see zygotes and embryos through Christian eyes - what astonishes me though is the fixation on abortion legislation. In a theocratic legislation, homosexuality would have to be illegal (Leviticus 18:22) and it would be prohibited that banking houses take interests (Exod. 22:25), and there are other issues about which the Old Testament has a different opinion than what is usual today ( issues I do not dare to mention ;) ). So first of all, why this fixation on the issue of abortion? Secondly, is a kind of theocratic legislation biblically tenable (Joh. 18:36)?

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