"The Antichrist" Myth

[Marathoner]

On 8/24/2021 at 1:48 PM, missmuffet said:

Their is a term referring the "antichrists" which is a broad term meaning those who do not believe in Christ. But there is an individual which will show up in the 7 year tribulation who is the actual Antichrist. If you do not believe in the Antichrist in the book of Revelation you should go back and ready it correctly. You are posting false teaching. 

Prove your accusation, @missmuffet. All you offer is your opinion and that is not sufficient. We search the scriptures to see if this or that or that is true, and our brother William has forwarded a position that is supported by the same scriptures which are God-breathed, given to us by the Lord Himself. 

Who is antichrist? One who denies that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh. This is the scriptural teaching imparted to us by the apostle John in his first and second letters (epistles). Antichrist is mentioned nowhere else so therefore, the burden is upon the accuser to prove their witness isn't false. 

Show us the truth of your accusation. 

Edited August 29, 2021 by Marathoner
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[WilliamL]

1 minute ago, missmuffet said:

You are wrong. You are false teaching. 

And you are trying to provoke an  argument.

[Alive]

Nowhere in Revelation is either a seven years or antichrist mentioned.

This is easily verified and settled...no need for a disagreement.

BTW--I verified it with the word searches.

:-)

Edited August 29, 2021 by Alive
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[The Light]

On 8/17/2021 at 5:41 PM, HAZARD said:

Here's the good news, He will definately not come from America, or even rule America, or even be a world wide dictator as many teach and believe, although his wars in the middle east will cause disruption in world wide trade, oil etc. Scripture shows he will only reign over ten kingdoms that will yet be formed inside the Old Roman Empire territory (Dan. 7:23-24).


Only these ten kingdoms will give their power and kingdoms to him (Rev. 13:1; 17:12-17).

 

Here's the bad news. There are many antichrists.

Matt 24

24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.

25 Behold, I have told you before.

And there are 7 kings, 5 have fallen, one is and one is yet to come. And there is an eighth who is of the seven.

Rev 17

10 And there are seven kings: five are fallen, and one is, and the other is not yet come; and when he cometh, he must continue a short space.

11 And the beast that was, and is not, even he is the eighth, and is of the seven, and goeth into perdition.

I noticed when reading your post, which has many good points, that you are grouping the scriptures about the 7th king into the scriptures about the eighth king.

The 7th king has not appeared yet. He is an antichrist. There is a high probability that the 7th king will be from the United States. You have correctly identified the area that THE ANTICHRIST comes from. But this man is from the pit. He was(before Johns time), is not(in Johns time), and yet is in the future.

Rev 17

8 The beast that thou sawest was, and is not; and shall ascend out of the bottomless pit, and go into perdition: and they that dwell on the earth shall wonder, whose names were not written in the book of life from the foundation of the world, when they behold the beast that was, and is not, and yet is.

The eighth king who was and is not and yet is, is the Antichrist. He is Nimrod/Baal.

[Alive]

7 minutes ago, The Light said:

There is a high probability that the 7th king will be from the United States.

I just have to ask. Why do you think this? I suppose I should ask for relevant scripture.

[WilliamL]

10 minutes ago, The Light said:

But this man is from the pit. He was(before Johns time), is not(in Johns time), and yet is in the future.

The last sentence is true. He  is yet to "ascend out of the abyss" some time in the future. Rev. 11:7 That abyss will not be opened until the 5th Trumpet. Rev. 9:1-2

The first sentence is not true. Men do not reside in the abyss, only fallen angels. Jude 6; 2 Peter 2:4

[Diaste]

8 hours ago, Desopixi Seilynam said:

The white horse period of time was from the death and resurrection of Christ
to around the end of the Napoleon era, the conquest and formation
of the world major nations as we have them now.

Hitler was the clear climax of the red horse period of time.

We are inside of the black horse period of time now.

Next is the anti-Christ period of time.

If the scriptures are Israel-centric and Jerusalem specific then I very much doubt the above. 

 

[The Light]

4 hours ago, WilliamL said:

The last sentence is true. He  is yet to "ascend out of the abyss" some time in the future. Rev. 11:7 That abyss will not be opened until the 5th Trumpet. Rev. 9:1-2

The first sentence is not true. Men do not reside in the abyss, only fallen angels. Jude 6; 2 Peter 2:4

Hi William,

And where do those that were born of angels and women reside now?

Gen 6

2 That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose.

3 And the Lord said, My spirit shall not always strive with man, for that he also is flesh: yet his days shall be an hundred and twenty years.

4 There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.

[missmuffet]

7 hours ago, Marathoner said:

Prove your accusation, @missmuffet. All you offer is your opinion and that is not sufficient. We search the scriptures to see if this or that or that is true, and our brother William has forwarded a position that is supported by the same scriptures which are God-breathed, given to us by the Lord Himself. 

Who is antichrist? One who denies that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh. This is the scriptural teaching imparted to us by the apostle John in his first and second letters (epistles). Antichrist is mentioned nowhere else so therefore, the burden is upon the accuser to prove their witness isn't false. 

Show us the truth of your accusation. 

Read the book of Revelation and read it literally. Don't give it your own words and you can't miss it. 

Revelation 13:5-8

Revelation 19:19-20

[Marathoner]

1 hour ago, missmuffet said:

Read the book of Revelation and read it literally. Don't give it your own words and you can't miss it. 

Revelation 13:5-8

Revelation 19:19-20

Many have and there's no mention of antichrist nor a seven year tribulation --- refer to @Alive's post above. You haven't furnished proof of your accusation. Thanks.