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18 hours ago, Wayne222 said:

It says the king of the south will push at the king of the north. The king of the north will attack and enter the countries and plant his base in Isarel. So yes this could be a start of it.

I just posted your reference to the North a few posts back in the Hebrew Ezekiel Chapter 38.

 

Who do you think the king South is and WHO is the North King besides Ancient Gog, in your viewpoint?


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9 hours ago, R. Hartono said:

Peace treaty by antichrist may come after Gog n Magog battle, only after the rapture.

Paul said those who are Alive and Remain!

Revelation 16:1-14 = Wrath of God

Revelation 16:15 = Second Coming in the Clouds/Comes like a THIEF

Revelation 16:16 = Armageddon

 

I see no rapture, only a Second Coming of Christ that will unfold like what's being taught as a rapture doctrine. 

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6 hours ago, Rick_Parker said:

Not as long as Iran strives for nukes.

And we know Biden will gladly lessen their Sanctions.  Russia, after all, is Biden's top target.   Iran can plan the Israel attack and be completely under radar with this President.


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20 minutes ago, AandW_Rootbeer said:

From the Tanakh, <WHO> do you think from Verse 15, in Ezekiel 38 represents Gog from a peoples of the Utmost North?

 

Russia?

 

15And you will come from your place, from the utmost north, you and many peoples with you, all of them riding horses; a great assembly and a mighty army.   טווּבָ֚אתָ מִמְּקֽוֹמְךָ֙ מִיַּרְכְּתֵ֣י צָפ֔וֹן אַתָּ֕ה וְעַמִּ֥ים רַבִּ֖ים אִתָּ֑ךְ רֹֽכְבֵ֚י סוּסִים֙ כֻּלָּ֔ם קָהָ֥ל גָּד֖וֹל וְחַ֥יִל רָֽב:
16And you will ascend upon My people Israel like a cloud to cover the earth; at the end of days it will be, and I shall bring you upon My land in order that the nations recognize Me when I am sanctified through you before their eyes, O Gog.   טזוְעָלִ֙יתָ֙ עַל־עַמִּ֣י יִשְׂרָאֵ֔ל כֶּֽעָנָ֖ן לְכַסּ֣וֹת הָאָ֑רֶץ בְּאַֽחֲרִ֨ית הַיָּמִ֜ים תִּֽהְיֶ֗ה וַֽהֲבִֽאוֹתִ֙יךָ֙ עַל־אַרְצִ֔י לְמַעַן֩ דַּ֨עַת הַגּוֹיִ֜ם אֹתִ֗י בְּהִקָּֽדְשִׁ֥י בְךָ֛ לְעֵינֵיהֶ֖ם גּֽוֹג:

 

 

   

If it is Russia or Whoever, Verse 8 explains how Ancient Gog survives in Last Days Upper North: (Notice Verse 8 explains be remembered; at the end of the years <plural (S) like the final year ever>)

8From many days you will be remembered; at the end of the years you will come to a land [whose inhabitants] returned from the sword, gathered from many peoples, upon the mountains of Israel, which had been continually laid waste, but it was liberated from the nations, and they all dwelt securely.  

חמִיָּמִ֣ים רַבִּים֘ תִּפָּקֵד֒ בְּאַֽחֲרִ֨ית הַשָּׁנִ֜ים תָּב֣וֹא | אֶל־אֶ֣רֶץ | מְשׁוֹבֶ֣בֶת מֵחֶ֗רֶב מְקֻבֶּ֙צֶת֙ מֵעַמִּ֣ים רַבִּ֔ים עַל הָרֵ֣י יִשְׂרָאֵ֔ל אֲשֶׁר־הָי֥וּ לְחָרְבָּ֖ה תָּמִ֑יד וְהִיא֙ מֵֽעַמִּ֣ים הוּצָ֔אָה וְיָֽשְׁב֥וּ לָבֶ֖טַח כֻּלָּֽם:

 

 

 

 

Russia with other countries ,Turkey ,Etiopia, Iran, Lybia ,Sudan ,they will all come together  up against Israel.


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Posted (edited)
1 hour ago, AandW_Rootbeer said:

Paul said those who are Alive and Remain!

Revelation 16:1-14 = Wrath of God

Revelation 16:15 = Second Coming in the Clouds/Comes like a THIEF

Revelation 16:16 = Armageddon

 

I see no rapture, only a Second Coming of Christ that will unfold like what's being taught as a rapture doctrine. 

Those alive and remain shall be caught up to the cloud n the world left behind because Jesus has not returned yet.

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Posted
1 hour ago, AandW_Rootbeer said:

I just posted your reference to the North a few posts back in the Hebrew Ezekiel Chapter 38.

 

Who do you think the king South is and WHO is the North King besides Ancient Gog, in your viewpoint?

I really dont know. But we will know when he who restrain him is taken out of the way. The king of the north will be the antichrist man of sin. The king of the north will over take Isarel and be there for 3 and half. Then the kings of the east will attack him. That is after the 3 years of tribulation. We might be very close to the antichrist at this time. 


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On 8/26/2021 at 5:28 PM, Wayne222 said:

I really dont know. But we will know when he who restrain him is taken out of the way. The king of the north will be the antichrist man of sin. The king of the north will over take Isarel and be there for 3 and half. Then the kings of the east will attack him. That is after the 3 years of tribulation. We might be very close to the antichrist at this time. 

You don't believe the Antichrist will be Yiddish?

 

You believe Gog from the North represents the Antichrist?

 

 

What's interesting, is Gog (the person/man) and Magog (his Land) are specifically listed as representing the North.   And they are <invading> Israel.   Many people have taught it the other way around.

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